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Thom Stewart October 2nd 04 09:05 PM

Scot,

That trip of Nutsy to "No Where" was another LIE!! He still has yet to
spend a night of shore, out of sight of land.

He should be an expert on docking lines but he isn't.

Jeff, Nutsy's ally is about to take a trip off shore (so he says) Be
ready for that problem of Gulf Stream drift while heading South (G) He
is heading (so he claims) to the BVI and hasn't learned yet how the
avoid the north flowing GS

Ole Thom


Scott Vernon October 2nd 04 09:06 PM

Wonder if he'll post a pic of the mystery line?

SV


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Can't make the LIE go down, can you Nutsy?

How many lines parted on the boats that didn't double up :^) I know

if
there were any, you be shouting into the wind for all to hear.

Sorry Nutsy, you're so busy defending you obvious LIE with other

dumb
statements and lies that you forgot the obivious LIE about other
failures.

Shut The Hell Up!!!

Ole Thom




Thom Stewart October 2nd 04 09:17 PM

Nutsy,

I'm saying you're stern line never busted in your slip!!! You LIED!!!
Enough said; Check and your move.

Ole Thom


Jeff Morris October 2nd 04 09:22 PM

In this thread? Let's see - you had a line part inexplicably; you claim you've
seen it happen a number of times; you claimed the wind gusted to over 40, than
over 35, but the most that was reported in your area was 25.

It sure seems like your posts are one inexplicable thing after another.



"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I don't think its for me to explain why so many
"inexplicable" things happen to you, booby.


So many? Golly, I hope you're not lying again. Let's see you list these
inexplicable things...

RB




Scott Vernon October 2nd 04 09:40 PM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scot,

That trip of Nutsy to "No Where" was another LIE!! He still has yet

to
spend a night of shore, out of sight of land.



YUP, and he also bragged about doing a Round Long Island race, which
he never did either.



Jeff, Nutsy's ally is about to take a trip off shore (so he says) Be
ready for that problem of Gulf Stream drift while heading South (G)

He
is heading (so he claims) to the BVI and hasn't learned yet how the
avoid the north flowing GS



I believe Jax wants to crew on some one elses boat.

Scotty





Jeff Morris October 2nd 04 09:45 PM

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
to reduce stress by doubling lines i think you would need to make sure they
are working completely together.


Of course, exactly doubling a line means feeding through the same chocks and to
the same cleats. I'm not sure that actually doubles the securty. I prefer to
add lines to different points that handle the same force but in a slightly
different way. For example, an after bow spring prevents the boat from moving
forward. Adding an after midship spring does the same thing, but uses different
cleats.


otherwise if it is just twice as many lines.----one will work while the
other is slack. if one goes south, then the other takes the load.


The lines that take the force from a given direction should all be tensioned
equally.

i have yet to figure out how to do this
any ideas?
admitting ignorance here.


Unfortunately, each situation is different.
But a few guidelines:

Use nylon.
Use the highest quality lines.
Don't "oversize," that just reduces stretch.
Have the lines led as far as possible. Avoid short breast lines for small
boats.
Double up with alternate attachment points.
Allow the boat to move up and down with the waves, but avoid the shock loads of
moving fore and aft.
And, as my mentor always said, "Remember, Chafe is the Invisible Enemy!"



felton October 2nd 04 10:16 PM

On Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:45:08 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
to reduce stress by doubling lines i think you would need to make sure they
are working completely together.


Of course, exactly doubling a line means feeding through the same chocks and to
the same cleats. I'm not sure that actually doubles the securty. I prefer to
add lines to different points that handle the same force but in a slightly
different way. For example, an after bow spring prevents the boat from moving
forward. Adding an after midship spring does the same thing, but uses different
cleats.


otherwise if it is just twice as many lines.----one will work while the
other is slack. if one goes south, then the other takes the load.


The lines that take the force from a given direction should all be tensioned
equally.

i have yet to figure out how to do this
any ideas?
admitting ignorance here.


Unfortunately, each situation is different.
But a few guidelines:

Use nylon.
Use the highest quality lines.
Don't "oversize," that just reduces stretch.
Have the lines led as far as possible. Avoid short breast lines for small
boats.
Double up with alternate attachment points.
Allow the boat to move up and down with the waves, but avoid the shock loads of
moving fore and aft.
And, as my mentor always said, "Remember, Chafe is the Invisible Enemy!"



One thing that I do is to keep my spring lines taut to my midship
cleats and allow my bow and stern lines to be relatively slack. The
boat seems to be able to ride out almost any conditions in the slip
with a minimum of jerking and hobby horsing.


Bobsprit October 2nd 04 10:44 PM

Sorry Nutsy, you're so busy defending you obvious LIE


I love Thom's logic. Everyone knows it's a LIE and yet everyone is trying so
hard to point out and argue the specifics of the LIE.
Fine, my line didn't break. But the actual sailing dialogue generated is better
than talk about the stupid Kerry/Bush threads.
Thom, you should be thanking me...again.

RB

Bobsprit October 2nd 04 10:46 PM

I'm saying you're stern line never busted in your slip!!! You LIED!!!
Enough said; Check and your move.

Thom, my boat wasn't even in the water. I had her hauled so new thru-hulls
could be installed. I got some new electronics after the robbery. She went back
in this morning. I'll be posting pics of the new stuff when it's all set up
properly.
Happy now?

RB

Bobsprit October 2nd 04 10:47 PM

In this thread? Let's see - you had a line part inexplicably; you claim you've
seen it happen a number of times; you claimed the wind gusted to over 40, than
over 35, but the most that was reported in your area was 25.

That's just ONE inexplicable item. You can call me a liar on the rest, but
that's about it.
You lose again, Jeff...and you lied AGAIN.

RB


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