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Jeff Morris October 2nd 04 02:37 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Now you're claiming the line parted with no chafe??? Good Grief! And you're
claiming it happens all the time at your marina???


Please POST where I said It Happens all the time.


You the one who said you've seen this happen a number of times.

If it happened mid line
beneath the snubber, please explain to all of us what it was chafing against.


Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's no
way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow. You've
even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few hours before.
If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any one line.

The only explanation for this is incompetance.

We all eagerly await your answer. I may even forward it to Yale.


I've given my explanation, what's yours?








Scott Vernon October 2nd 04 02:52 PM


"Jeff Morris" wrote

Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds.

There's no
way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little

blow. You've
even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few

hours before.
If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any

one line.


his idea of checking lines is to see if they weren't stolen , yet.


The only explanation for this is incompetence.



YUP, gross incompetence.




Bobsprit October 2nd 04 03:20 PM

Please POST where I said It Happens all the time.

You the one who said you've seen this happen a number of times.


Please POST where I said it happens all the time. Please explain to EVERYONE
why people will double up on ground tackle when bad weather approaches. Please
tell us again how cordage NEVER fails inexplicably.

RB

Bobsprit October 2nd 04 03:23 PM

Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's
no
way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow.


Jeff illustrates perfectly how a good sailor differs from a poor one.
I care little about "claims" about line strength. I buy good quality oversized
dockline, but I NEVER trust the label 100%. Who would? When bad weather is
forecast you double up on the lines. It's easy, low cost and a basic rule. It
doesn't exist because everyone's lines are chafing.
Keep trusting those labels, Jeff! I prefer to practice good seamanship and add
lines. This time it payed off.

RB

Bobsprit October 2nd 04 03:27 PM

You've
even said that you expected the blow and checked the lines a few hours before.
If you doubled the lines that should have reduced the stress on any one line.



What? Now you're telling us that you set key line and safety at the same
tension??? You DO know that the safety is to be set BEHIND the key line's
tension so that it's integrety is maintained rather than compromised at the
same time. A safety backs up the main line. It doesn't "share the load." I tend
to set mine so it catches the load at 75% extension of the main, which is high.
Good grief. Game over, folks. Lines NEVER fail!!!!

RB



Bobsprit October 2nd 04 03:30 PM

We all eagerly await your answer. I may even forward it to Yale.

I've given my explanation, what's yours?

You have your explanation. The line failed with zero chaif and looked fine. You
just can't believe that a label could lie to you or a line could simply fail
under repeated loading.
On the other hand, sailors I know differ and add safety lines because they KNOW
you're wrong.
Play the odds with your boat if you like, but stay clear of mine. 10 years and
never any damage from tie ups. And you know we get a handful of nasty blows
through here every year.

Yale is still waiting!!!

R

Bobsprit October 2nd 04 03:30 PM

YUP, gross incompetence.


How is Scotty Potti posting with all that rain and lightening?

RB

JAXAshby October 2nd 04 03:31 PM

Booby, the breaking strength of a dock line is around 10,000 pounds. There's
no
way a properly setup line should encounter this force in a little blow.


Jeff


*******IF******** jeffies had the degree in physics he claims he has you would
know full well that loads that high and higher can be generated in a blow.
jeffies is too stew ped to know what shock loads wind gusts and waves put on a
boat.

jeffies is now going to spend hours on end googling to find some article in
BoatsUS that states the incorrect.

do not try to discuss anything even remotely connected to sailing or science
with jeffies unless his wife is standing behind him as he sits at a keyboard.
he really is too dense for words, and he will spin circles for weeks trying to
"prove" he is not dummer than a rock.

Bobsprit October 2nd 04 03:40 PM

Hahahahahaha!

RB


Probably damaged during the burglary.


Actually, I never thought of that! No likely though.

RB

Scott Vernon October 2nd 04 03:40 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote


Jeff illustrates perfectly how a good sailor differs from a poor

one.

Yup, made you look the fool...........again.






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