In article bHV0ZWZpc2s=.826f81b94141a5f1e6c0063cc30abd99@109 4768452.nulluser.com,
John Deere wrote:
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 09, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS
News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's
service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a
current word processing program, according to typography experts.

stupid, long for no reason post deleted

Interesting! I suppose you think this means that it was ok for Bush to
not show up for his physical. We're still waiting for him to tell us
why.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

I missed few physicals when I was in the Air Force. Why
don't you ask me why I missed them? I can't remember.

Lets ask John Kerry why he committed attrocities in Vietnam.

Lets ask John Kerry why he does feel he needs to attend Congress
or committee meetings.

Lets ask to see his wife's tax return with her big investments
in Haliburton and Enron.

Lets ask who stands to benefit from these forged documents.

Could it be the DNC?
Could it be the Clintons?
Could it be John Kerry?


(Jonathan Ganz) wrote

John Deere wrote:
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 09, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS
News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's
service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a
current word processing program, according to typography experts.

stupid, long for no reason post deleted

Interesting! I suppose you think this means that it was ok for Bush to
not show up for his physical. We're still waiting for him to tell us
why.

In article ,
N1EE wrote:
I missed few physicals when I was in the Air Force. Why
don't you ask me why I missed them? I can't remember.

Did you have to resign your commission because of it?

Lets ask John Kerry why he committed attrocities in Vietnam.

Seems like a reasonable question.

Lets ask John Kerry why he does feel he needs to attend Congress
or committee meetings.

I think because he's a senator.

Lets ask to see his wife's tax return with her big investments
in Haliburton and Enron.

Fine. Let's ask Cheney too!

Lets ask who stands to benefit from these forged documents.

Good question, assuming they're forgeries. Either way, good question!

Could it be the DNC?

Doubtful.

Could it be the Clintons?

How's that? To sell more of their books?

Could it be John Kerry?

So he could be totally discredited if it came out? Hardly.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

I haven't watched 60 minutes since they intentionally lied about life in the
old Panama Canal Zone back 25 years ago. We knew they had been provided
factual information so it wasn't unintentional distortion but intentional
lies. Since then every time they have bashed something or someone I have
always thought, "if 60 minutes is against them . .they can't be ALL bad."
This isn't anything new . .. . .but this time we have other sources of
information and sources of 'journalism' rather than distorted propaganda.
Wonder what the former major media are going to do now? The unemployment
line is thataway!!!!

M.

Now for the whiny litany of "I suppose you listen to . . . .and the
standard knee jerk regurgiatated laundry list of whomevers." Thankfully
you will never get it. You gotta have a mind before you can waste it.





"N1EE" wrote in message
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I missed few physicals when I was in the Air Force. Why
don't you ask me why I missed them? I can't remember.

Lets ask John Kerry why he committed attrocities in Vietnam.

Lets ask John Kerry why he does feel he needs to attend Congress
or committee meetings.

Lets ask to see his wife's tax return with her big investments
in Haliburton and Enron.

Lets ask who stands to benefit from these forged documents.

Could it be the DNC?
Could it be the Clintons?
Could it be John Kerry?


(Jonathan Ganz) wrote

John Deere wrote:
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 09, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS
News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President
Bush's
service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a
current word processing program, according to typography experts.

stupid, long for no reason post deleted

Interesting! I suppose you think this means that it was ok for Bush to
not show up for his physical. We're still waiting for him to tell us
why.

In article ,
Michael wrote:
I haven't watched 60 minutes since they intentionally lied about life in the
old Panama Canal Zone back 25 years ago. We knew they had been provided
factual information so it wasn't unintentional distortion but intentional
lies. Since then every time they have bashed something or someone I have
always thought, "if 60 minutes is against them . .they can't be ALL bad."
This isn't anything new . .. . .but this time we have other sources of
information and sources of 'journalism' rather than distorted propaganda.
Wonder what the former major media are going to do now? The unemployment
line is thataway!!!!

Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.

Now for the whiny litany of "I suppose you listen to . . . .and the
standard knee jerk regurgiatated laundry list of whomevers." Thankfully
you will never get it. You gotta have a mind before you can waste it.

Sounds like you've got something to work on...
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.

The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

Max

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.

The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

It's easy to cite facts but not the truth. Yes, the UER just dropped
0.1%. However, it was completely due to people dropping off the
employment rolls not due to job growth. 144K people found jobs. But
the economy needs about 150-200K to break even on job loss/job
creation.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Jonathan Ganz"
Maxprop wrote:
The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't
wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

It's easy to cite facts but not the truth. Yes, the UER just dropped
0.1%. However, it was completely due to people dropping off the
employment rolls not due to job growth. 144K people found jobs. But
the economy needs about 150-200K to break even on job loss/job
creation.

Gotta agree with Jon on that one. Several friends, union electricians, have
been jobless for over two years! They don't show up in the figures because,
like 1000s of others, their unemployment benefits have ran out.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.

The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't
wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

It's easy to cite facts but not the truth. Yes, the UER just dropped
0.1%. However, it was completely due to people dropping off the
employment rolls not due to job growth. 144K people found jobs. But
the economy needs about 150-200K to break even on job loss/job
creation.

When I was a kid, 3% unemployment was considered "full employment." Some
people simply aren't employable for any number of reasons. I don't know
what the basement unemployment rate is today, but I wouldn't be surprised if
we're very near that figure now.

Max

Maxprop wrote:
The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

You must be referring to people who mostly get their "facts" from
fascist tub-thumpers shilling for Bush & Cheney.

Most other people in the country have experience either directly, or one
of their friends or family, struggling with long term unemployment or
underemployment.

The fact of the matter is that there are fewer jobs now than in 2000,
when we "were beginning a Clinton-induced recession" according to your
own favorite sources.

Another fact is that families discretionary income is at a low point,
and dropping further.

To the reasonable person, it seems pretty obvious that the "Bush
economy" chiefly benefits the ultra rich and offshore corporations.
Certainly that mega-gazillion dollar defecit is not helping the economy
anywhere near as much as might be expected. And it's been a couple years
now, how long does it take to "kick start" the economy?

DSK