On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:17:21 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

felton, you sound like a typical 'hide in my turtle shell and let things
work out by themselves' liberal. Your name fits you.

SV

Hide from what? I don't find thoughts and speech that I don't agree
with all that frightening. I really don't need the intellectual
elite, like Joe's crowd, protecting me from seeing or hearing
something that might offend me



"felton" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:06:05 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

So the "Hush Rush" crowd is Un-American by your standards?
The crowd that drove Dr. Laura off the tv is Un-American?

hmmm?

BC

I have a simple solution to Rush... I don't listen to him. It doesn't
bother me that others do. Same with Howard Stern. I also don't attend
KKK rallies, although I don't have a problem with people having
extreme views or expressing extreme opinions. I guess I am not as
threatened by others' views as you and Joe seem to be.



"felton" wrote in message
.. .
Actually Michael Moore offers a very sensible solution. VOTE. Just
what is it about critical opinions of government policy that you fear
so much? You would be much happier in a banana republic or one of the
many other countries that attempt to squash public discourse that is
critical to the ruling regime.

A "true American" might well elect not to see the movie, or perhaps
would disagree with the opinions of Michael Moore, but would not go to
such efforts to prohibit others from seeing the movie and forming
their own conclusions.


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:02:34 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

Joe, you are a true American and represent the very essence of
Americanism.
I support you and your peaceful economic effort to dissuade others
from
viewing the utter trash spewed forth by the Great Bloviator. Voluntary
social action, not government legislation, is the true center of
change
in
this country. Michael Moore is just here to profit from victims and
upset
the apple cart. He offers no solutions, no ideas, nothing. He is a
laughing
stock abroad as he is the Ugly American in its finest form. He is too
stupid
to realize that the very thing he does attack is himself. Just as
others
can
go about and promote Moore's film, you have the same right to go about
and
demote it. And, if only the truth could be told, rather than
propogandist
lies, you would be the clear victor in only a short matter of time.

BC



"Joe" wrote in message
. com...
Now is the time to contact Blockbuster rentals the nations largest
and
let them know that all proud Americans will not stand for them to
make
money off of burning charred American bodies. Let them know you
will
do 100% of your movie rentals at your local Mom & Pop shop if they
carry M.Moores POS American hating left wing Propaganda film 911.

Show them we will vote before the election with our wallets! Not
only
will we not rent 911 but we will refuse to rent anything from a
company that make $ off of Moores hate of America.

Just click on the link below! And pass this info on to your Proud
American friends!




http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/about/...6,ART-439%5ENT
-
ABT,00.html?

And call your local store directly!

Thanks,
Joe

felton wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:17:21 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

felton, you sound like a typical 'hide in my turtle shell and let things
work out by themselves' liberal. Your name fits you.

SV

Hide from what? I don't find thoughts and speech that I don't agree
with all that frightening. I really don't need the intellectual
elite, like Joe's crowd, protecting me from seeing or hearing
something that might offend me


Felton,

I have already posted links were you can download M. Moores flik for
free if you must watch. I have nothing against you seeing the
propaganda movie. Your an adult(i assume)and it's your right.

However I do have a problem with a scum ball getting rich off the
images of dead Americans. Americans that deserve respect. Do you think
Moore gives a crap about why these dead honorable men went to Iraq?.
NO he does not, all he wants is to see Bush out of office. He will
discrace anyone if it helps him to meet his own agenda. The burned
charred and trampled bodies that were hung from that bridge in the
propaganda film were of men that were trying to protect food deliverys
for the Iraqi people.

What comes around goes around and hopefully someone will catch a
group of people killing, stomping on, burning then hanging Moores fat
ass on a bridge, if they can find a girder strong enough to hold such
a huge pile of crap.

I even have enough respect for him as a human not to pay to watch it.
And if I owned a Video shop I would not feel right making a profit
renting it to all the people that would pay for such a show.

So please call your local Blockbuster's and let them know you do not
support murder for profit or for political gain.

Joe

P.S You never answered my question.
Were you ever in any branch of the Military?
Let me guess ............No.












"felton" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 20:06:05 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

So the "Hush Rush" crowd is Un-American by your standards?
The crowd that drove Dr. Laura off the tv is Un-American?

hmmm?

BC

I have a simple solution to Rush... I don't listen to him. It doesn't
bother me that others do. Same with Howard Stern. I also don't attend
KKK rallies, although I don't have a problem with people having
extreme views or expressing extreme opinions. I guess I am not as
threatened by others' views as you and Joe seem to be.



"felton" wrote in message
.. .
Actually Michael Moore offers a very sensible solution. VOTE. Just
what is it about critical opinions of government policy that you fear
so much? You would be much happier in a banana republic or one of the
many other countries that attempt to squash public discourse that is
critical to the ruling regime.

A "true American" might well elect not to see the movie, or perhaps
would disagree with the opinions of Michael Moore, but would not go to
such efforts to prohibit others from seeing the movie and forming
their own conclusions.


On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:02:34 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

Joe, you are a true American and represent the very essence of
Americanism.
I support you and your peaceful economic effort to dissuade others
from
viewing the utter trash spewed forth by the Great Bloviator. Voluntary
social action, not government legislation, is the true center of
change
in
this country. Michael Moore is just here to profit from victims and
upset
the apple cart. He offers no solutions, no ideas, nothing. He is a
laughing
stock abroad as he is the Ugly American in its finest form. He is too
stupid
to realize that the very thing he does attack is himself. Just as
others
can
go about and promote Moore's film, you have the same right to go about
and
demote it. And, if only the truth could be told, rather than
propogandist
lies, you would be the clear victor in only a short matter of time.

BC



"Joe" wrote in message
. com...
Now is the time to contact Blockbuster rentals the nations largest
and
let them know that all proud Americans will not stand for them to
make
money off of burning charred American bodies. Let them know you
will
do 100% of your movie rentals at your local Mom & Pop shop if they
carry M.Moores POS American hating left wing Propaganda film 911.

Show them we will vote before the election with our wallets! Not
only
will we not rent 911 but we will refuse to rent anything from a
company that make $ off of Moores hate of America.

Just click on the link below! And pass this info on to your Proud
American friends!




http://www.blockbuster.com/bb/about/...6,ART-439%5ENT
-
ABT,00.html?

And call your local store directly!

Thanks,
Joe

On 21 Jul 2004 07:17:34 -0700, (Joe) wrote:

felton wrote in message . ..
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 19:17:21 -0400, "Scott Vernon"
wrote:

felton, you sound like a typical 'hide in my turtle shell and let things
work out by themselves' liberal. Your name fits you.

SV

Hide from what? I don't find thoughts and speech that I don't agree
with all that frightening. I really don't need the intellectual
elite, like Joe's crowd, protecting me from seeing or hearing
something that might offend me


Felton,

I have already posted links were you can download M. Moores flik for
free if you must watch. I have nothing against you seeing the
propaganda movie. Your an adult(i assume)and it's your right.

However I do have a problem with a scum ball getting rich off the
images of dead Americans. Americans that deserve respect. Do you think
Moore gives a crap about why these dead honorable men went to Iraq?.
NO he does not, all he wants is to see Bush out of office. He will
discrace anyone if it helps him to meet his own agenda. The burned
charred and trampled bodies that were hung from that bridge in the
propaganda film were of men that were trying to protect food deliverys
for the Iraqi people.

What comes around goes around and hopefully someone will catch a
group of people killing, stomping on, burning then hanging Moores fat
ass on a bridge, if they can find a girder strong enough to hold such
a huge pile of crap.

I even have enough respect for him as a human not to pay to watch it.
And if I owned a Video shop I would not feel right making a profit
renting it to all the people that would pay for such a show.

So please call your local Blockbuster's and let them know you do not
support murder for profit or for political gain.

Joe

P.S You never answered my question.
Were you ever in any branch of the Military?
Let me guess ............No.

I didn't answer your question because it is not relevant, but you are
mistaken.

If you really think that Michael Moore is in it for the moeny, there
is not much hope for you. Michael Moore is a passionate crusader when
he believes he perceives social injustice. A blind man could see
that. Whose ox was he goring with "Roger and Me" about the screwing
of the blue collar GM auto worker when Roger Smith, CEO, was living
like a king? Who loves America more, Michael Moore or George W Bush?
You can agree or disagree about Michael Moore's conclusions, but I can
hardly doubt his motivations.

Don't confuse buying the political horse**** from this administration
with a "love for America". For me personally, I care far more about
every life lost in an unnecessary war than I give a flying f*ck about
GWB's approval rating.

As far as the money is concerned, who do you think makes more...Bush,
Cheney or Moore?


I look upon those who would deny others the right to urge and argue
their position, however irksome and pernicious they may seem, as
intellectual and moral cowards."
-- William E. Borah

felton wrote in message .

P.S You never answered my question.
Were you ever in any branch of the Military?
Let me guess ............No.

I didn't answer your question because it is not relevant, but you are
mistaken.

Oh Im mistaken. Sorry

Are you ashamed of your service? What branch? were did you serve,
when?
Many vets here Felt, fill us in.



If you really think that Michael Moore is in it for the moeny, there
is not much hope for you. Michael Moore is a passionate crusader when
he believes he perceives social injustice.

Yeah.... Moore is to Kerry... what Riefenstahl was to Hitler.




A blind man could see
that. Whose ox was he goring with "Roger and Me" about the screwing
of the blue collar GM auto worker when Roger Smith, CEO, was living
like a king? Who loves America more, Michael Moore or George W Bush?

President Bush.


You can agree or disagree about Michael Moore's conclusions, but I can
hardly doubt his motivations.


Thats because your a blind man.

Don't confuse buying the political horse**** from this administration
with a "love for America". For me personally, I care far more about
every life lost in an unnecessary war than I give a flying f*ck about
GWB's approval rating.

Just like you could care less of the 250,000 people Saddam murdered.
And the millions that would have to keep getting murdered if the USA
did not step in and put it to a stop. Just like you could care less if
Hitler was running all of Europe and England.

Just like you could care less in spreading freedom to everyone.
That will never get us anywere huh?
We should leave such important matters to the French right?

Joe





As far as the money is concerned, who do you think makes more...Bush,
Cheney or Moore?


I look upon those who would deny others the right to urge and argue
their position, however irksome and pernicious they may seem, as
intellectual and moral cowards."
-- William E. Borah

So, you're saying that Moore is a brilliant film maker,
but misguided? That doesn't sound very wacko to me.
You're slipping Joe.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
felton wrote in message
.

P.S You never answered my question.
Were you ever in any branch of the Military?
Let me guess ............No.

I didn't answer your question because it is not relevant, but you are
mistaken.

Oh Im mistaken. Sorry

Are you ashamed of your service? What branch? were did you serve,
when?
Many vets here Felt, fill us in.



If you really think that Michael Moore is in it for the moeny, there
is not much hope for you. Michael Moore is a passionate crusader when
he believes he perceives social injustice.

Yeah.... Moore is to Kerry... what Riefenstahl was to Hitler.




A blind man could see
that. Whose ox was he goring with "Roger and Me" about the screwing
of the blue collar GM auto worker when Roger Smith, CEO, was living
like a king? Who loves America more, Michael Moore or George W Bush?

President Bush.


You can agree or disagree about Michael Moore's conclusions, but I can
hardly doubt his motivations.


Thats because your a blind man.

Don't confuse buying the political horse**** from this administration
with a "love for America". For me personally, I care far more about
every life lost in an unnecessary war than I give a flying f*ck about
GWB's approval rating.

Just like you could care less of the 250,000 people Saddam murdered.
And the millions that would have to keep getting murdered if the USA
did not step in and put it to a stop. Just like you could care less if
Hitler was running all of Europe and England.

Just like you could care less in spreading freedom to everyone.
That will never get us anywere huh?
We should leave such important matters to the French right?

Joe





As far as the money is concerned, who do you think makes more...Bush,
Cheney or Moore?


I look upon those who would deny others the right to urge and argue
their position, however irksome and pernicious they may seem, as
intellectual and moral cowards."
-- William E. Borah