dood, if you are taking fixes on marker buoys, bottom depth, sounds from shore,
smells from onshore restaurants, THEN you are usaging pilotAGE, **not** deduced
reckoning.

this is easy stuff, shen. pay attention.

What I described is NOT piloting, as piloting involves fixes.

ubject: DR practice
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 08/07/2004 14:24 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

dood, if you are taking fixes on marker buoys, bottom depth, sounds from
shore,
smells from onshore restaurants, THEN you are usaging pilotAGE, **not**
deduced
reckoning.

this is easy stuff, shen. pay attention.

A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.
Using soundings, sounds from shore or smells from onshore restaurants is part
of DR, as they don't give you a fix, they just aid in narrowing the error in
your DR.
Course, there are times when you can use soundings to get a fix, but as per
usual, that's beyond your understanding.

Your right, this is easy stuff, but obviously beyond your knowledge and
understanding as you're still trying to comprehend the various terms.

Shen

A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.

no it isn't. you are piloting the boat, but using pilotage for navigation.
there is a hell of a difference.

As per usual, your lack of experience and knowledge of the subject is
showing.
You need to learn more than one definition for the same woids.
Pilotage, is the fee paid a pilot for piloting your boat.
Only a rank amateur with nothing but knowledge gained from reading and
none from doing would come up with some of the junk you do. The terms
are interchangeable, and the fact you can't and don't understand that
tells us how little you know.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.


no it isn't. you are piloting the boat, but using pilotage for navigation.
there is a hell of a difference.

Pilotage, is the fee paid a pilot for piloting your boat.

the use of the term in that way is not germaine to this discusssion. I stand
by my statement.

JAXAshby wrote:
Pilotage, is the fee paid a pilot for piloting your boat.


the use of the term in that way is not germaine to this discusssion. I stand
by my statement.

G Actually it is, since I'm part of this discussion.
However, to stay within your limited knowledge of the subject, Bowditch
has a section on this subject.
It starts off: "Piloting (or pilotage)) is navigation involving frequent
or continuous determination of position ....."
What this is saying, is that the terms are interchangeable.
Now, I realize that someone with the limited knowledge and experience
you possess, needs a basis for developing your skills, but I suggest
you'd be better served spending less time fixating on your
interpretation of the meaning of some word or phrase and more time out
there learning through doing, regarding the compass, DR, and
piloting/pilotage.

otn

The terms
are interchangeable,

they are not interchangeable, though those who never use either might think so.
Much the same way someone who never drives a truck might think the terms
two-speed axel and transmission overdrive are interchangeable. only to those
who have never been there.

JAXAshby wrote:
The terms
are interchangeable,


they are not interchangeable, though those who never use either might think so.
Much the same way someone who never drives a truck might think the terms
two-speed axel and transmission overdrive are interchangeable. only to those
who have never been there.

EG they are interchangeable, though those (such as JAXAshby) who never
use either might not think so.

Subject: DR practice
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 08/07/2004 16:08 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

A fix using marker buoys, it piloting.

no it isn't. you are piloting the boat, but using pilotage for navigation.
there is a hell of a difference.


No difference at all. Sometimes I'm using piloting and others I'm using
pilotage .... them's the same ting.
You just don't know better.

Shen

Sometimes I'm using piloting and others I'm using
pilotage .

*you*, shen, don't use either one, ever. go crawl back in your hole.