Funds or not, it's a stupid idea that won;t work.

Sv

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're right. It doesn't. One reason it doesn't is that it's not been
funded. It was a great idea, but without actually allocating the
funds, it's less than worthless.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind'
policy. It won't work.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I voted for Bush, even though I'm a reg democrat. But I'll tell you
this
much: he doesn't know **** about education, other than how to make a
bad
situation worse. He's good at making voters feel like he is doing
something
to improve things (no child left behind), but as funny as it sounds,
teachers are not the problem with the system (please remember that I'm
coming from a background in private industry, teaching is a second
career).
Beating up teachers won't fix what's wrong with America's schools. He
needs
to think about solving problems for America's families.
I just met with two educators from Texas, where Bush's educational
plan
has
been in place for many years. Here's what I said when I walked out of
the
meeting: Jesus.
Bush doesn't seem to understand that education is a two way street,
and
that
parental involvement is critical for the vast majority of kids. Unless
you
can get the parents to partner up with the teachers, you're just
blowing
smoke up the taxpayers collective ass.
I'm wondering when Bush will pass the "no child left out of the war"
act.
Scout



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified
companies.
The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the
expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same
thing.

The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make
billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and
they
didn't
have the money.

To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and
bankers
financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not
met,
Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks, then
the whole tech sector, then the entire market.

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the
clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.

The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.
It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse Jackson,
and John Kerry.

Jonathan Ganz wrote
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately, despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than
he's
made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?

Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators to
"miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen.
Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take
things
away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty
easy
to
take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Max

Lisa is teaching Summer school, or whatever they call it now, for Reading
SD.

SV


"Scout" wrote in message
...
Some school districts (not the unions) are telling the feds to shove their
money. They'd rather do without then play that game. Reading (PA) SD is
suing the state over what it sees as inequities in the law.
Scout
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/0211/p01s02-ussc.html

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're right. It doesn't. One reason it doesn't is that it's not been
funded. It was a great idea, but without actually allocating the
funds, it's less than worthless.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left
behind'
policy. It won't work.

Scotty

"Scout" wrote in message
...
I voted for Bush, even though I'm a reg democrat. But I'll tell you
this
much: he doesn't know **** about education, other than how to make a
bad
situation worse. He's good at making voters feel like he is doing
something
to improve things (no child left behind), but as funny as it sounds,
teachers are not the problem with the system (please remember that
I'm
coming from a background in private industry, teaching is a second
career).
Beating up teachers won't fix what's wrong with America's schools.
He
needs
to think about solving problems for America's families.
I just met with two educators from Texas, where Bush's educational
plan
has
been in place for many years. Here's what I said when I walked out
of
the
meeting: Jesus.
Bush doesn't seem to understand that education is a two way street,
and
that
parental involvement is critical for the vast majority of kids.
Unless
you
can get the parents to partner up with the teachers, you're just
blowing
smoke up the taxpayers collective ass.
I'm wondering when Bush will pass the "no child left out of the war"
act.
Scout



"Bart Senior" wrote in message
t...
Fine, write me a check.

Clinton took away hundreds of thousand of jobs including mine.
Don't blame Bush when you don't have a clue what you are talking
about. The Clinton's cheating with White Water gave the green
light
for corporate greed to go crazy.

The economy that began falling with the tech collapse a few years
ago, began in Britian when they auctioned off frequency spectrum
to
the highest telecom bidders, instead of the best qualified
companies.
The
result was that government gained $36 billion instead of the
expected
$9 billion. Nations around the world got greedy and did the same
thing.

The companys that got the frequency specturm stood likely to make
billions, but not right away. First they had to pay for it, and
they
didn't
have the money.

To finance all that, telecom corporations faked growth figures and
bankers
financed them when they shouldn't. When growth figures were not
met,
Nokia and other cell makers crashed followed by telecom stocks,
then
the whole tech sector, then the entire market.

If you want to point the finger at any President. Clinton is the
clear
winner by being a cheat and greedy himself, he set the example
that
everyone else followed. And he pardoned those who paid him off.

Shame on you for blaming Bush, who has integrity and morals,
things unknown in the Democratic {sell-out} Party.

The Democrats never look at the long picture, their policy is
appeasement, like England's Chamberlin in WWII--that never works.
It takes toughness and moral intergirty to look after the common
good, not personal greedy so prevalent in the Democratic Party.

Let's vote for the greediest in the Democratic Party.

The nominations are; Hilllary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Jesse
Jackson,
and John Kerry.

Jonathan Ganz wrote
I think the worst offender is someone who takes away your job.
I'd gladly give up some cash to have the job market actually
be stable or growing (not talking about burger flippers). Talk
to Bu****. He's taken away millions of jobs. Fortunately,
despite
him, they're starting to come back.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Comments interspersed...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message

John Kerry has missed more Senate votes this session than
he's
made.

Are you trying to say that this is a good or bad thing?

Works for me. Now if we could just get the other 99 senators
to
"miss"
votes.


During a Democrat fundraiser in San Francisco Monday, Sen.
Hillary
Rodham Clinton told the audience. "We're going to take
things
away
from you on behalf of the common good."

Like illegal drugs? Like WMDs? Like assault rifles? Pretty
easy
to
take
things out of context isn't it....

Like money. More and more of our money.

Max

I guess it hurt when you got left behind. All 4 times, eh?

Scotty


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 8 Jul 2004 15:33:11 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote
this crap:

My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind'
policy. It won't work.


If the teachers don't like it, it must be good.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Will you tell us why?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
om...
DSK wrote in message
...
I can explain it easily. It is due the average Limbaugh listener's
pathologic rage against the Clintons. He pushes this button almost
daily. His listeners get all stoked with righteous indignation, then
they get out there and vote, dammit!

DSK

I agree 100% Doug, Rush is a asshole overweight pill taking retard.

But Im still going to vote for Bush.

Joe

No. You are bull****.

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www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 08 Jul 2004 14:12:39 -0400, DSK wrote
this crap:

At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an
entertainer, not a journalist'

He still does.


and said that he just made stuff up
because it was easier than doing research.

That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research.

He also said that most of his
audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine.

That's bull****, too.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade. He
told me he thought they would just pass him the first time through. He
figured for sure they wouldn't fail him twice. By the third time, he had
learned the material just from the repetition, so he passed.
Scout


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I guess it hurt when you got left behind. All 4 times, eh?

Scotty


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 8 Jul 2004 15:33:11 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote
this crap:

My wife and every teacher she knows dislikes the 'no child left behind'
policy. It won't work.


If the teachers don't like it, it must be good.






Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an
entertainer, not a journalist'


Horvath wrote:
He still does.

Then why are so many people convinced that what he says is factual
rather than low comedy?


and said that he just made stuff up
because it was easier than doing research.


That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research.

He still makes stuff up on the fly. I would guess that he has a research
staff to tell him when to backpedal and when to lie about what he's said.

For example
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/men...ipt.guest.html

I heard what he said about the Abu Graib prisoner abuse, and I bet you
did too (although for entirely different reasons). In the Time
interview, he's lying like a rug.


He also said that most of his
audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine.


That's bull****, too.

No, sorry, it is as totally factual as his failed attempt at being a
sports announcer or his interval on welfare. It was in an another
interview in a very popular magazine about ten ~ eleven years ago.

DSK

people are good at believing what they want to believe.
Scout

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
At one point some years ago, Limbaugh described himself as 'an
entertainer, not a journalist'


Horvath wrote:
He still does.

Then why are so many people convinced that what he says is factual
rather than low comedy?


and said that he just made stuff up
because it was easier than doing research.


That's bull****. He's got a whole staff that does his research.

He still makes stuff up on the fly. I would guess that he has a research
staff to tell him when to backpedal and when to lie about what he's said.

For example

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/men...ipt.guest.html

I heard what he said about the Abu Graib prisoner abuse, and I bet you
did too (although for entirely different reasons). In the Time
interview, he's lying like a rug.


He also said that most of his
audience were "morons"... that was his word, not mine.


That's bull****, too.

No, sorry, it is as totally factual as his failed attempt at being a
sports announcer or his interval on welfare. It was in an another
interview in a very popular magazine about ten ~ eleven years ago.

DSK

"Scout" wrote ...
I had a kid in high school who took 3 tries to get through 8th grade.

Son or daughter?


A friend I grew up with flunked 4 times before he quit. When the
neighborhood kids got together, the joke was that everyone was in Bobs'
class at one time or another.

Scotty

An Metet wrote:
... But the
thing that works best on radio is logic, fueled by passionate belief.
That's the essence of conservative talk radio.

That, and a lot of utter malarkey that wouldn't pass muster with an 8th
grader who got a "C" or better in civics.

DSK