You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count. He also
lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

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wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:59:34 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count. He also
lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.


How can you function without any brain cells?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Well, you're the expert, please enlighten us!

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 17:59:34 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count. He also
lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.


How can you function without any brain cells?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count.

Since the Republicans controlled the US House, all they had to do is
disqualify every slate of Gore electors, thus leaving the slate sent
by the Democrat majority of the Florida Supreme Court for Bush.

Once Bush was certified, Gore could not win the electoral college
unless he could convice the US House to vote against Bush.

He also lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

That a myth put out by the Democrats. The only two full counts of the
state show Bush as the winner.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count.

A standardless, partial recount of the ballots would have been thrown
out by the US House because of violations of 3 U.S.C. section 5.

The fact is Gore lost that day Bush was certified the winner of the
state of Florida.



He also
lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 09:57:51 -0400, "Vito" wrote this
crap:

..... That's the key to good fiction - include just enough truth to make
the rest plausible. Example:

Terrorists killed 1000s of Americans on 9/11. That's why we must attack
Iraq


What part of that is NOT factual? Terrorists killed almost 3000
people at the WTC.

That's the factual bait that makes suckers swollow the fiction "That's why
we must attack Iraq".

I should have said:

Terrorists killed 1000s of Americans on 9/11. They committed their murders
in the name of God - the same God that Christians worship!! That's why we
must round up Christians and send them to 'gitmo!

What part of that is NOT factual?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Amazingly, we now have an extra US Supreme Court Justice in
our midst. Wow.

I am not a US Supreme Court Justice, but unlike you, I understand how the
electoral college system works. The fact is under the Electoral Count Act of
1887, once a candidate has been certified, no court can take those electors
away.

IF Gore had won the standardless partial recount as ordered by the FSC, just
exactly how does he win the electoral college??


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wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count.

A standardless, partial recount of the ballots would have been thrown
out by the US House because of violations of 3 U.S.C. section 5.

The fact is Gore lost that day Bush was certified the winner of the
state of Florida.



He also
lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks
to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida
Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But
we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that
you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved
by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the
Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the
SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans
would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the
Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has
elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every
one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog
catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

No, it's not a myth. Check your facts. Gore won or would have
won the popular vote in Florida.

You're still citing facts that have nothing to do with the question.

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www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
m...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count.

Since the Republicans controlled the US House, all they had to do is
disqualify every slate of Gore electors, thus leaving the slate sent
by the Democrat majority of the Florida Supreme Court for Bush.

Once Bush was certified, Gore could not win the electoral college
unless he could convice the US House to vote against Bush.

He also lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

That a myth put out by the Democrats. The only two full counts of the
state show Bush as the winner.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the
Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has
elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog
catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Amazingly, we now have an extra US Supreme Court Justice in
our midst. Wow.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count.

A standardless, partial recount of the ballots would have been thrown
out by the US House because of violations of 3 U.S.C. section 5.

The fact is Gore lost that day Bush was certified the winner of the
state of Florida.



He also
lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the
Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has
elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog
catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No, it's not a myth. Check your facts. Gore won or would have
won the popular vote in Florida.

You're still citing facts that have nothing to do with the question.

The fact is there has NEVER been a recount that proved Gore won Florida. I
notice the you CAN'T cite a single one.

You keep performing your little song and dance, but the fact is the
Democrats did not have the votes needed in Congress to throw out the Bush
slate of certified Florida Electors. EVEN IF Gore won the standardless
partial recount as ordered by the Florida Supreme Court, he would have LOST
the electoral college election because his electoral would have been
appointed in violation of 3 U.S.C. section 5.

The truth of the matter is 3 U.S.C. section 15 would be the defining law in
this matter. It basically says who ever is state certified wins. Bush was
state certified thanks to the DEMOCRATS on the Florida Supreme Court. This
happened two weeks before the SCotUS handed down their decision in Bush vs.
Gore.

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wrote in message
m...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You are citing facts that have nothing to do with the issue. Bu****
was elected by the Supreme Court, because they are the ones
that blocked further attempts to have an accurate count.

Since the Republicans controlled the US House, all they had to do is
disqualify every slate of Gore electors, thus leaving the slate sent
by the Democrat majority of the Florida Supreme Court for Bush.

Once Bush was certified, Gore could not win the electoral college
unless he could convice the US House to vote against Bush.

He also lost the popular vote in Florida by every reasonable measure.

That a myth put out by the Democrats. The only two full counts of the
state show Bush as the winner.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
om...
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You're the idiot. He was elected by his buddies in the Supreme
Court.

That is incorrect. Bush was certified the winner of the state two
weeks before that decision was handed down from the SCotUS (thanks
to
the 7-0 decision of the Florida Supreme Court).

Stuart Taylor discussing the ramifications of the Bush being the
certified winner of the state and the decision of the Florida
Supreme
Court in Palm Beach County Canvassing Board vs. Harris:

"Rougher translation: We're giving you a chance to explain your way
out of the Federal law trap into which you stumbled on Nov. 21. But
we
don't see how you can do it. And by the way, it isn't only us that
you
have to convince. Under another provision of that 1887 act (3 U.S.C.
section 15), the Bush electors that Gov. Jeb Bush has already
certified and sent to Congress, via the archivist of the United
States, will be the ones counted, unless any Gore electors approved
by
the Florida courts can pass muster with both the
Republican-controlled
House and the Senate. Not much chance of that."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...2000-12-13.htm

The order of the FSC on 12/8/2000, which was overturned by the
SCotUS
on 12/12/2000, was for a standardless, partial recount of disputed
ballots. Do REALLY expect anyone to believe that the Republicans
would
have allowed Gore to keep those electors over the slate of Bush
electors that were already certified??



Clinton was one of the best presidents ever. Bu**** is
a ****ing liar. You deal with it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 12:24:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Like last time??? Hahaha... he lost the popular vote and was
elected by the Supreme Court. This time, he's going to lose
fair and square.


For those of you to stupid to go past third grade, only the
Electoral
College can elect the president. The Electoral College has
elected
every president since and including George Washington. Every
one.

The Supreme Court doesn't have the authority to elect a dog
catcher.
Gore lost. Deal with it. Don't make yourself look even more
stupider.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!