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Nav June 29th 04 10:40 PM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 
And a large vaccuum cleaner for those small fires.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:
1. Inspect pressure gauge (where fitted). If it's out of the
green, get it professionally serviced anyway (or if a cheapie,
buy a new one). If it's dribbling powder, ditto.
2. Alongside your ear, tilt the extinguished gently. If the
powder is properly free, you should both hear it and feel the
transfer of weight as it literally flows from one end of the
extinguisher to the other.
3. if 2. doesn't work at all, or not much, grab a rubber tyre
mallet or other padded mallet (but NOT a sledgehammer, or
anything that will give a really sharp blow).
4. With the mallet, tap the base of the extinguisher gently until
the dry powder flows as in 2. If it's badly caked, this may take
a lot of taps. AVoid the temptation to beat the sh*t out of it
after the fifteenth tap.
5. Regularly (eg each time you're down at the boat) give it both
a shake and turn upside down lsitening to the powder flow. if it
doesn't, reservice.
6. throw out those teeny extinguishers and get at least a 1.5kg,
in multiples.


wrote:

This is exactly why you should have multiple ABC extinquishers, placed
strategically around the boat. The C.G. minimums are woefully inadequate. Buy
bigger, and more. Here's a little tip to make sure they are working when you
need them: When routinely safety checking your boat, remove each extinguisher
from it's bracket and shake the hell out of it. The main reason for failure in
these extinguishers, besides leakdown, is caking of the powder.

BB





Nav June 29th 04 10:43 PM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 


Flying Tadpole wrote:

Now, of course, all that's way behind me, and these days I only
have to worry about minor things like hazard and risk assessments
for crude oil fires. Still, it's simpler than sorting out
radioactive waste disposal, for which I give thanks.



Now I understand where your prose comes from!

Cheers


Flying Tadpole June 29th 04 10:58 PM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 


Nav wrote:

Flying Tadpole wrote:

Now, of course, all that's way behind me, and these days I only
have to worry about minor things like hazard and risk assessments
for crude oil fires. Still, it's simpler than sorting out
radioactive waste disposal, for which I give thanks.


Now I understand where your prose comes from!

Cheers


Radiant and glowing, while at the same time smooth and dark, both
crude and refined.

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera

Flying Tadpole June 29th 04 11:01 PM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 
Heh. four years ago we had to clean up 8kg of loose stuff that
got dropped in the shed. COuld hardly use it for servicing
extinguishers once it had collected the spiders, small nail,
stones and other things on shed floors. Damn stuff's like
quickselver (when it's not caked). What impressed me was how much
went straight through the vacuum and out again....

Nav wrote:

And a large vaccuum cleaner for those small fires.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:
1. Inspect pressure gauge (where fitted). If it's out of the
green, get it professionally serviced anyway (or if a cheapie,
buy a new one). If it's dribbling powder, ditto.
2. Alongside your ear, tilt the extinguished gently. If the
powder is properly free, you should both hear it and feel the
transfer of weight as it literally flows from one end of the
extinguisher to the other.
3. if 2. doesn't work at all, or not much, grab a rubber tyre
mallet or other padded mallet (but NOT a sledgehammer, or
anything that will give a really sharp blow).
4. With the mallet, tap the base of the extinguisher gently until
the dry powder flows as in 2. If it's badly caked, this may take
a lot of taps. AVoid the temptation to beat the sh*t out of it
after the fifteenth tap.
5. Regularly (eg each time you're down at the boat) give it both
a shake and turn upside down lsitening to the powder flow. if it
doesn't, reservice.
6. throw out those teeny extinguishers and get at least a 1.5kg,
in multiples.


wrote:

This is exactly why you should have multiple ABC extinquishers, placed
strategically around the boat. The C.G. minimums are woefully inadequate. Buy
bigger, and more. Here's a little tip to make sure they are working when you
need them: When routinely safety checking your boat, remove each extinguisher
from it's bracket and shake the hell out of it. The main reason for failure in
these extinguishers, besides leakdown, is caking of the powder.

BB




--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at
http://music.download.com/internetopera

Nav June 29th 04 11:19 PM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 
What I don't understand is the objection to Halon when cars lose more
refrigerant every day than is used in controlling boat fires. lets face
facts, a fire a sea is a huge threat to life and a few Kg of Halon will
put out a fire much better than powder -especially a fuel fire in a bilge!

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:

Heh. four years ago we had to clean up 8kg of loose stuff that
got dropped in the shed. COuld hardly use it for servicing
extinguishers once it had collected the spiders, small nail,
stones and other things on shed floors. Damn stuff's like
quickselver (when it's not caked). What impressed me was how much
went straight through the vacuum and out again....

Nav wrote:

And a large vaccuum cleaner for those small fires.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:

1. Inspect pressure gauge (where fitted). If it's out of the
green, get it professionally serviced anyway (or if a cheapie,
buy a new one). If it's dribbling powder, ditto.
2. Alongside your ear, tilt the extinguished gently. If the
powder is properly free, you should both hear it and feel the
transfer of weight as it literally flows from one end of the
extinguisher to the other.
3. if 2. doesn't work at all, or not much, grab a rubber tyre
mallet or other padded mallet (but NOT a sledgehammer, or
anything that will give a really sharp blow).
4. With the mallet, tap the base of the extinguisher gently until
the dry powder flows as in 2. If it's badly caked, this may take
a lot of taps. AVoid the temptation to beat the sh*t out of it
after the fifteenth tap.
5. Regularly (eg each time you're down at the boat) give it both
a shake and turn upside down lsitening to the powder flow. if it
doesn't, reservice.
6. throw out those teeny extinguishers and get at least a 1.5kg,
in multiples.


wrote:


This is exactly why you should have multiple ABC extinquishers, placed
strategically around the boat. The C.G. minimums are woefully inadequate. Buy
bigger, and more. Here's a little tip to make sure they are working when you
need them: When routinely safety checking your boat, remove each extinguisher

from it's bracket and shake the hell out of it. The main reason for failure in

these extinguishers, besides leakdown, is caking of the powder.

BB





Donal June 29th 04 11:37 PM

What If #4-Answer
 

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..

Shrug. Donal's home port is further from France than this, esp if you
count all the distance from his boat's berth as offshore, as he has
done.


Well, well well! Peter reveals that he is a complete idiot!

I have not claimed that my berth is offshore. In fact, I suspect that
offshore berths are a rarity.

The distance between my home port and France is definitely *not* affected by
"offshore" status.

The distance is 74 miles.

Why do you need to question this? What's your problem?



Regards


Donal
--




Scott Vernon June 29th 04 11:47 PM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 
supposed to be. Still a lot of the old stuff out there.

Scotty


OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004 10:19:07 +1200, Nav
scribbled thusly:

What I don't understand is the objection to Halon when cars lose more
refrigerant every day than is used in controlling boat fires. lets face
facts, a fire a sea is a huge threat to life and a few Kg of Halon will
put out a fire much better than powder -especially a fuel fire in a

bilge!

Cheers


Aren't the new refrigerants far more environmentally friendly that
Halon?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Scott Vernon June 30th 04 12:00 AM

What If #4-Answer
 
So you both agree that Donut is right and bob**** is wrong. Good.

Cool pic.

Scotty

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 15:42:26 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
scribbled thusly:

Right, but the fix is simple. Don't sail with a forward hatch open.


These guys are glad they closed the hatches.
http://www.oceanpix.co.uk/sailing-ppl2.htm


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.



Peter Wiley June 30th 04 12:21 AM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 
AFAIK there's an exemption for ships. We still have halon for engine
room fires. Just as well too.

PDW


In article , Nav
wrote:

What I don't understand is the objection to Halon when cars lose more
refrigerant every day than is used in controlling boat fires. lets face
facts, a fire a sea is a huge threat to life and a few Kg of Halon will
put out a fire much better than powder -especially a fuel fire in a bilge!

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:

Heh. four years ago we had to clean up 8kg of loose stuff that
got dropped in the shed. COuld hardly use it for servicing
extinguishers once it had collected the spiders, small nail,
stones and other things on shed floors. Damn stuff's like
quickselver (when it's not caked). What impressed me was how much
went straight through the vacuum and out again....

Nav wrote:

And a large vaccuum cleaner for those small fires.

Cheers

Flying Tadpole wrote:

1. Inspect pressure gauge (where fitted). If it's out of the
green, get it professionally serviced anyway (or if a cheapie,
buy a new one). If it's dribbling powder, ditto.
2. Alongside your ear, tilt the extinguished gently. If the
powder is properly free, you should both hear it and feel the
transfer of weight as it literally flows from one end of the
extinguisher to the other.
3. if 2. doesn't work at all, or not much, grab a rubber tyre
mallet or other padded mallet (but NOT a sledgehammer, or
anything that will give a really sharp blow).
4. With the mallet, tap the base of the extinguisher gently until
the dry powder flows as in 2. If it's badly caked, this may take
a lot of taps. AVoid the temptation to beat the sh*t out of it
after the fifteenth tap.
5. Regularly (eg each time you're down at the boat) give it both
a shake and turn upside down lsitening to the powder flow. if it
doesn't, reservice.
6. throw out those teeny extinguishers and get at least a 1.5kg,
in multiples.


wrote:


This is exactly why you should have multiple ABC extinquishers, placed
strategically around the boat. The C.G. minimums are woefully inadequate.
Buy
bigger, and more. Here's a little tip to make sure they are working when
you
need them: When routinely safety checking your boat, remove each
extinguisher

from it's bracket and shake the hell out of it. The main reason for failure in

these extinguishers, besides leakdown, is caking of the powder.

BB





Flying Tadpole June 30th 04 12:31 AM

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 


Nav wrote:

What I don't understand is the objection to Halon when cars lose more
refrigerant every day than is used in controlling boat fires. lets face
facts, a fire a sea is a huge threat to life and a few Kg of Halon will
put out a fire much better than powder -especially a fuel fire in a bilge!


Also was the most effective for car fires too--squirt under the
bonnet--slam shut---wait.

Nav, halon extinguishers were an easy target for the ozone layer
protection punchup. Carbon tet through to all the br/cl/F/C
combinations reacts with ozone spectacularly, and as most don't
really think of have experience with fires and fire
extinguishers, a soft option was to outlaw halon extinguishers.
Hardly a murmu. Instant outlawing of fridges and old car
a/c's...wow, wht a noise that would be.

The ozone hole still amuses me, though. I suspect it always was,
and always will be....but then I have professional cause to
mistrust save-the-world-stay-green propaganda, spouted by the
masters of moral violence, and the resultant cynicism and
mistrust can get in the way.

--
Flying Tadpole

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera


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