What If #4-Answer
 

Yep... a firechief told me this as well.

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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:21:53 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote:

BB,

The Cushions and Overhead normally aren't considered FUEL.

OT

1). Burning materials ARE fuel

2). The source of the flame that started the conflagration was a LIQUID
fuel, so
water is highly inappropriate. If you manage to snuff the stove, the water
will
then spread combustible liquid all over the area. Stupid, Stupid, Stupid.

This is exactly why you should have multiple ABC extinquishers, placed
strategically around the boat. The C.G. minimums are woefully inadequate.
Buy
bigger, and more. Here's a little tip to make sure they are working when
you
need them: When routinely safety checking your boat, remove each
extinguisher
from it's bracket and shake the hell out of it. The main reason for
failure in
these extinguishers, besides leakdown, is caking of the powder.

BB

What If #4-Answer
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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If it's a standing wave, what's the problem..

No problem Jon, just another thing boob**** was wrong about.



if you're heading into them, there's not much danger of
flooding the boat unless you break through the top and
you have a forward hatch open.


well that WAS the original topic.

SV

What If #4-Answer
 

Well, how likely is it? An 8' standing wave isn't that big of
a wave. The only part that's you're going to break through
is the very top. How likely is it that you're going to be dumb
enough to be sailing around with an open forward hatch?
Even then, it wouldn't sink the boat, just slosh some water
in. I suppose really dumb people get what they deserve.

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 10:04:09 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"

wrote:

if you're heading into them, there's not much danger of
flooding the boat unless you break through the top and
you have a forward hatch open.

Unless...

BB

What If #4-Answer
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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. How likely is it that you're going to be dumb
enough to be sailing around with an open forward hatch?

boob**** says he is.

What If #4-Answer
 

It would have to be a pretty small boat... I've been called worse. :-)

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 11:32:44 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"

wrote:

Well, how likely is it? An 8' standing wave isn't that big of
a wave. The only part that's you're going to break through
is the very top. How likely is it that you're going to be dumb
enough to be sailing around with an open forward hatch?
Even then, it wouldn't sink the boat, just slosh some water
in. I suppose really dumb people get what they deserve.

The question was not how likely it was, but whether it could ever happen
at all.
Clearly it can happen. A smaller boat with an open forward hatch could
take
enough water in some cases for it to be a big problem. I didn't say that
you
were really dumb, but if the shoe fits... 8^)

BB

What If #4-Answer
 

Really? Most people call me nice things. Must be your problem. :-)

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 12:51:27 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"

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I've been called worse. :-)

That's easy to believe. 8^)

BB

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 

1. Inspect pressure gauge (where fitted). If it's out of the
green, get it professionally serviced anyway (or if a cheapie,
buy a new one). If it's dribbling powder, ditto.
2. Alongside your ear, tilt the extinguished gently. If the
powder is properly free, you should both hear it and feel the
transfer of weight as it literally flows from one end of the
extinguisher to the other.
3. if 2. doesn't work at all, or not much, grab a rubber tyre
mallet or other padded mallet (but NOT a sledgehammer, or
anything that will give a really sharp blow).
4. With the mallet, tap the base of the extinguisher gently until
the dry powder flows as in 2. If it's badly caked, this may take
a lot of taps. AVoid the temptation to beat the sh*t out of it
after the fifteenth tap.
5. Regularly (eg each time you're down at the boat) give it both
a shake and turn upside down lsitening to the powder flow. if it
doesn't, reservice.
6. throw out those teeny extinguishers and get at least a 1.5kg,
in multiples.


wrote:


This is exactly why you should have multiple ABC extinquishers, placed
strategically around the boat. The C.G. minimums are woefully inadequate. Buy
bigger, and more. Here's a little tip to make sure they are working when you
need them: When routinely safety checking your boat, remove each extinguisher
from it's bracket and shake the hell out of it. The main reason for failure in
these extinguishers, besides leakdown, is caking of the powder.

BB

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What If #4-Answer
 

Please. I don't think I deserve that kind of insult!

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On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 16:02:33 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"

wrote:

Really? Most people call me nice things. Must be your problem. :-)

It was you who said you've been called worse. Don't tell me you are
operating
out of the Dubya rulebook for honesty...

BB

How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 

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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:53:32 +0930, Flying Tadpole
wrote:



This is a device that may be called upon to save your boat, your life, or the
lives of others. If you need to hit it with a hammer, it is way past due for
replacement, regardless of what the 3 cent gauge says, or what you hear flowing.
A new extinguisher is about $20-$30. Jeez. Stick to insipid verse. You're
extremely no good at this.

BB


You're an even bigger fool than your repartee would suggest, and
you can't read either. What hammer? WHat hit? Throw away good
extinguishers because the powder has caked slightly? My
extinguishers come in at about $150 each, which is what you pay
for size and ruggedness (say, $US70). You want to play with weeny
toys and bet your life on them, go right ahead. I'm sure you
could find some 1/4lb extinguishers on ebay, secondhand, for $5
if you looked hard enough.

For other readers: 6 months is enough for the powder to cake
significantly, even with a bit of a shake from time to time. The
how-to given IN FULL in my original post is straight out of
commercial (and professional) practice.

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How to service and keep in service a dry powder extinguisher
 

Would several small ones, placed strategically around the boat, be better
than one (or 2) big one?

Does it make a difference if they are hung horizontally, as far as the
caking?

Scotty


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wrote:

On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 08:53:32 +0930, Flying Tadpole

wrote:



This is a device that may be called upon to save your boat, your life,
or the
lives of others. If you need to hit it with a hammer, it is way past due
for
replacement, regardless of what the 3 cent gauge says, or what you hear
flowing.
A new extinguisher is about $20-$30. Jeez. Stick to insipid verse.
You're
extremely no good at this.

BB


You're an even bigger fool than your repartee would suggest, and
you can't read either. What hammer? WHat hit? Throw away good
extinguishers because the powder has caked slightly? My
extinguishers come in at about $150 each, which is what you pay
for size and ruggedness (say, $US70). You want to play with weeny
toys and bet your life on them, go right ahead. I'm sure you
could find some 1/4lb extinguishers on ebay, secondhand, for $5
if you looked hard enough.

For other readers: 6 months is enough for the powder to cake
significantly, even with a bit of a shake from time to time. The
how-to given IN FULL in my original post is straight out of
commercial (and professional) practice.

--
SSO (ret'd) Flying Tadpole, BFSA(lapsed!)

-------------------------
Break Away, Sail Away and putz away
now at http://music.download.com/internetopera