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"Jeff Morris" wrote
We are beset by terrorists because of our ongoing support for the invasion of Palistine No one beleives this. No, they'd rather believe that a man named Jesus Christ is god,and that Israelis have a right to kill Palistinians but it is a fact. Terrorism predates the 1st gulf war. and the slow eradication of its indigineous Muslim population Odd - the Muslim population has growth steadily over the last 100 years. This is a particularly insidious lie because it implies that there is some form of "ethnic cleansing" going on. This is blatantly false. Please cite figures showing that the Muslim population of Palistine (not the world as a whole) has grown since 1948. As far as ethnic cleansing goes that is an ongoing observable process. Remember the massacres in the refugee camps in Lebanon orchestrated by none other than Sharon - the same man who torpedoed Clinton's peace initiative. The has always been a Jewish community in Palestine. And remember, a significant number (some say a majority) of those now claiming to be "indigenous" Palestinians actually immigrated along with the Jewish immigrants, who created economic opportunities. Yes indeed, but these were few compared to the flood of "displaced persons" - European Jews who had been driven from their homes by the Nazis then kept out by their good Christian neighbors. Nor did these prewar settlers declare a Jewish State and begin ousting their non-jewish neighbors who wanted to obey Muslim vs Jewish custom and law. These terrorist attacks can only worsen as the last Palistinians are either killed or driven out. There is absolutly no evidence that anything like this is going on. On the contrary, the evidence is obvious. There was no "Jewish State" in 1947; now it occupies most of Palestine and part of Jordan. There was enough land devoid of Jewish settlements to create a Palistinian state as recently as the last decade when Clinton proposed just that and both sides agreed. But a palistinian state would have precluded the annexation of those lands by Israel. So Sharon ****ed in the mosque and the whole deal collapsed. Now there is not enough *contiguous* land free of Jewish settlement to create a palistinian state anymore. Every month, more and more land is taken by The Jewish State, just as more and more land was taken from Native Americans by our own US Government - and it won't stop until it has all been taken and the few palistinians left are in refugee camps ... excuse me "reservations". The original Jewish European European? The largest group of settlers (before the Russian Jews) actually came from other Muslim countries. It is often overlooked that as 600,000 Palestinians were voluntarily leaving (on the advice of Arab leaders) a much larger number of Jews were being evicted from Muslim countries. While the Palestinians were allowed to take all their possessions, the Jews generally had everything confiscated. Yes European! In the years after WW2 and before Britian left nobody knows how many million European refugees moved to "the promised land" - Palistine. Nobody knows because their immigration was illegal! Why do you think Arab leaders advised Palistinian Muslims to leave?? Moreover, the Europeans comprising Israel did not welcome these middle-eastern Jews right away. Invaders? They were legal immigrants who purchased land from Muslims eager to sell. No, they were not. Britian was charged with protecting Palistine from them. I knew men who were in that force. As one put it "You have a boatload of people who look and act just like yourself, who have no place to go, and you're ordered to force them back to sea to protect a bunch of rag heads who wear dresses so they can better **** in the street ..... Guess what we did? And guess who we handed our guns and ammo to when we left!" Eager to sell? I'm eager to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a million bucks too, since I don't own it. Ditto Indians who sold Manhattan. This was true in the case of the Polish Jews, who tried to return to Poland and were rejected. But for the most part the European Jews were wiped out by the Holocaust and the survivers were a small part of the immagration. Last I looked, Poland was in Europe. We know that there were 600(?) MILLION fewer Jews in Europe when the first post-war censuses were taken and propagandists claim that Nazis killed that many. But Nazis were meticulous record keepers and their records show hundreds of millions less were killed. Why the descrepancy? Obviously many of the Jews comprising this descrepancy - the survivors - didn't stay in Europe to be counted. Some went to America, etc., and a whole flock (millions?) went to Palistine. That's the invasion I'm talking about. There was no need to fight; they have been offered peace many times, .... As were American Indians. All they had to do was nuckle under to The Jewish State and obey its laws and customs. so they become suicide bombers - terrorists if you will. If I will??? If your child was blown up while on a school bus I think you would call them terrorists. Sure would. But what would you call the girl who blew up the bus - the teen who gave her life to avenge your child, killed by an American tank driven by an Israeli who just moved in from the ex-USSR? Like I said, there's plenty of hate and blame to go around. Or, when the majority of the Palestinians, who want peace, take control of their lives. The majority want peace to live their lives in accordance with their own laws and customs - not peace at any price, not at the price of being second class citizens subject to Kosher law and custom. Slick Willy Clinton had a compromise deal almost tied up - Isreal offered to give the Palestinians virtually everything they asked for in return for Peace. Yes, and peace was nearly at hand - until the current PM of Israel defiled a mosque. Absolute nonsense - even the Palestinians admit this is completely false. Funny, all the news reported it as true. What Palistinians say he didn't? Cite? Vito's post is proof that there will always be stupid people. Name calling is ever the refuge of the prejudised when their prejudises are attacked by truth. Half the Middle East? Are you saying the Jews are entitled to half of Saudi Arabia? Read your Bible. Was half of Saudi Arabia included? The fundamental problem is the belief by some in the Muslim community that they have a divine right to rule all the land from India to Spain. One could instead argue that the fundamental problem is the belief by some that the Jewish State has a devine right to rule the lands God gave Moses, but the fact is neither one is "the fundamental problem". The fundamental problem is mans eagerness to murder everybody who disagrees with his own often idiotic religeous notions. |
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