Kerry in trouble!
"Jeff Morris" wrote
We are beset by terrorists because of our ongoing support for the
invasion of Palistine
No one beleives this.
No, they'd rather believe that a man named Jesus Christ is god,and that
Israelis have a right to kill Palistinians but it is a fact. Terrorism
predates the 1st gulf war.
and the slow eradication of its indigineous Muslim population
Odd - the Muslim population has growth steadily over the last 100 years.
This
is a particularly insidious lie because it implies that there is some form
of
"ethnic cleansing" going on. This is blatantly false.
Please cite figures showing that the Muslim population of Palistine (not the
world as a whole) has grown since 1948. As far as ethnic cleansing goes
that is an ongoing observable process. Remember the massacres in the refugee
camps in Lebanon orchestrated by none other than Sharon - the same man who
torpedoed Clinton's peace initiative.
The has always been a Jewish community in Palestine. And remember, a
significant number (some say a majority) of those now claiming to be
"indigenous" Palestinians actually immigrated along with the Jewish
immigrants,
who created economic opportunities.
Yes indeed, but these were few compared to the flood of "displaced
persons" - European Jews who had been driven from their homes by the Nazis
then kept out by their good Christian neighbors. Nor did these prewar
settlers declare a Jewish State and begin ousting their non-jewish neighbors
who wanted to obey Muslim vs Jewish custom and law.
These terrorist attacks can only worsen as the last
Palistinians are either killed or driven out.
There is absolutly no evidence that anything like this is going on.
On the contrary, the evidence is obvious. There was no "Jewish State" in
1947; now it occupies most of Palestine and part of Jordan. There was
enough land devoid of Jewish settlements to create a Palistinian state as
recently as the last decade when Clinton proposed just that and both sides
agreed. But a palistinian state would have precluded the annexation of
those lands by Israel. So Sharon ****ed in the mosque and the whole deal
collapsed. Now there is not enough *contiguous* land free of Jewish
settlement to create a palistinian state anymore. Every month, more and more
land is taken by The Jewish State, just as more and more land was taken from
Native Americans by our own US Government - and it won't stop until it has
all been taken and the few palistinians left are in refugee camps ... excuse
me "reservations".
The original Jewish European
European? The largest group of settlers (before the Russian Jews)
actually came
from other Muslim countries. It is often overlooked that as 600,000
Palestinians were voluntarily leaving (on the advice of Arab leaders) a
much
larger number of Jews were being evicted from Muslim countries. While the
Palestinians were allowed to take all their possessions, the Jews
generally had
everything confiscated.
Yes European! In the years after WW2 and before Britian left nobody knows
how many million European refugees moved to "the promised land" - Palistine.
Nobody knows because their immigration was illegal! Why do you think Arab
leaders advised Palistinian Muslims to leave?? Moreover, the Europeans
comprising Israel did not welcome these middle-eastern Jews right away.
Invaders? They were legal immigrants who purchased land from Muslims
eager to sell.
No, they were not. Britian was charged with protecting Palistine from them.
I knew men who were in that force. As one put it "You have a boatload of
people who look and act just like yourself, who have no place to go, and
you're ordered to force them back to sea to protect a bunch of rag heads who
wear dresses so they can better **** in the street ..... Guess what we did?
And guess who we handed our guns and ammo to when we left!" Eager to sell?
I'm eager to sell you the Brooklyn Bridge for a million bucks too, since I
don't own it. Ditto Indians who sold Manhattan.
This was true in the case of the Polish Jews, who tried to return to
Poland and
were rejected. But for the most part the European Jews were wiped out by
the
Holocaust and the survivers were a small part of the immagration.
Last I looked, Poland was in Europe. We know that there were 600(?) MILLION
fewer Jews in Europe when the first post-war censuses were taken and
propagandists claim that Nazis killed that many. But Nazis were meticulous
record keepers and their records show hundreds of millions less were killed.
Why the descrepancy? Obviously many of the Jews comprising this
descrepancy - the survivors - didn't stay in Europe to be counted. Some went
to America, etc., and a whole flock (millions?) went to Palistine. That's
the invasion I'm talking about.
There was no need to fight; they have been offered peace many times, ....
As were American Indians. All they had to do was nuckle under to The Jewish
State and obey its laws and customs.
so they become suicide bombers - terrorists if you will.
If I will??? If your child was blown up while on a school bus I think you
would
call them terrorists.
Sure would. But what would you call the girl who blew up the bus - the teen
who gave her life to avenge your child, killed by an American tank driven by
an Israeli who just moved in from the ex-USSR? Like I said, there's plenty
of hate and blame to go around.
Or, when the majority of the Palestinians, who want peace, take control of
their lives.
The majority want peace to live their lives in accordance with their own
laws and customs - not peace at any price, not at the price of being second
class citizens subject to Kosher law and custom.
Slick Willy Clinton had a compromise deal almost tied up -
Isreal offered to give the Palestinians virtually everything they asked
for in return for Peace.
Yes, and peace was nearly at hand -
until the current PM of Israel defiled a mosque.
Absolute nonsense - even the Palestinians admit this is completely false.
Funny, all the news reported it as true. What Palistinians say he didn't?
Cite?
Vito's post is proof that there will always be stupid people.
Name calling is ever the refuge of the prejudised when their prejudises are
attacked by truth.
Half the Middle East? Are you saying the Jews are entitled to half of
Saudi
Arabia?
Read your Bible. Was half of Saudi Arabia included?
The fundamental problem is the belief by some in the Muslim community that
they
have a divine right to rule all the land from India to Spain.
One could instead argue that the fundamental problem is the belief by some
that the Jewish State has a devine right to rule the lands God gave Moses,
but the fact is neither one is "the fundamental problem". The fundamental
problem is mans eagerness to murder everybody who disagrees with his own
often idiotic religeous notions.
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