|
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
We thought we'd join the local yacht club--silly us. The club, if you saw it,
would be considered a dive resteraunt, beat up docks, and old nasty boats. They wanted a thousand dollars to join and 400 dollars a year. Plus we had to be vouched for by four members, whom we were supposed to find on our own and brown nose, I suppose. All we wanted to do was sail with other sailors. Come to find out, hardly any members even own a boat. It was a pathetic rich-persons club. I thank God every day that He has given me everything I want without making me have to be rich to get it. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
It was a pathetic rich-persons club
Then why was the marina loaded with "old nasty boats"? S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
What kind of skaggy place do you sail in? Our yacht club's initiation fee
is half that and we have a great place and a great program.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
What kind of skaggy place do you sail in? Our yacht club's initiation fee
is half that and we have a great place and a great program.... The sailing place is great. The yacht clubs are disgusting and cater to the rich not the sailor. In your yacht club, how much does it cost a year, and how do you get into it? |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Paraphrasing Groucho Marx, Why on earth would you want to belong to a
club that would have you as a member? On 18 May 2004 11:48:45 GMT, topspam (EdGordonRN) wrote: What kind of skaggy place do you sail in? Our yacht club's initiation fee is half that and we have a great place and a great program.... The sailing place is great. The yacht clubs are disgusting and cater to the rich not the sailor. In your yacht club, how much does it cost a year, and how do you get into it? |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Ed asked:
In your yacht club, how much does it cost a year, and how do you get into it? You have to have a sponsor to vouch for you. Our initiation fee was $350.00 (they had a sale) and a year's membership is 550.00. Storage and slips are well below the price of any marina within 150 miles. Most of the membership sails and there is a huge ASA program for kids...Butterfly fleet, JY16 fleet, Opti fleet, Melges 24's and J 24 fleet. Haven't seen too much of the "rich" around...mist people are middle class family types...I'm sure there must be a rich eprson or two, but they hide it well...or maybe they're just couth. What is your definition of "rich"? -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
The man's right. If a $1,000 one time initiation fee and $400 a year is
beyond his means, he'll feel out of place, the members prolly won't want him Excuse me while I try not to aspirate my puke while I ROTFL. I think rich people are pathetic. Not people with money--a person can't do much about the money they either have or don't have--I mean the rich person. That person who is panicky affraid of losing what he or she knows damn well they will lose in the end. That person who actually thinks their rotting corpse will be better off in a tomb--or a yacht club--really needs to look at the realities of life. If I had millions, which I don't, I would still never belong to the NY yacht club, because if I have to buy a sponsor, that seems way too much like buying a friend. Oh, silly me, that's what being rich is all about--buying friends. I almost forgot. I think that's a very similar notion to buying a wife on an hourly basis--if you get my drift. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
What is your definition of "rich"?
Thanks for the info. My definition of rich is having what you want--what you really want, not what others tell you you should want. In my case, my job gets me closer to God, my wife is from God, I'm sure of it. Sailing gets me closer to God and I get to do it all the time. And I think God talks to me all the time. There is absolutely no possession I want that I don't already have or can't buy. My life is rich, in my opinion. I would consider it a curse if I had to have a BMW (which I don't want) a huge house (which I don't want) and sweat the stock market every day (which I don't want to do) and own a 50 ft sailboat (which I don't want and would never have time to sail) just to prove to others that I am rich. I am not financially wealthy, but I am truly happy--and things are poised to get even better. That's being rich, in my opinion, and my opinion about my state of being rich is all that matters. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
At my yacht club, if you have to ask, you can't afford it. To get in,
you need a sponser to fill out the admission forms, and letters of recommendation from two more members. Why do you bother? What do you get out of that? People approving of you and you have to pay for the privilage of people approving you? For a boat club? Maybe there's something I don't get. Tell me, does anyone actually wear a blazer with an emblem and a captains hat? |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Ed asked: Tell me, does anyone actually wear a blazer with
an emblem and a captains hat? Only motorboater's wear that kind of thing...most folks at ours wear khaki shorts and t-shirts....and baseball caps.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Ed stated:
because if I have to buy a sponsor, that seems way too much like buying a friend. Gee...our sponsor owns a very small marina of his own up on White Lake and drives around in cut-offs in his beat up Ford pick-up...he's just a plain, old nice guy and he'd probably rearrange the face if someone suggested he could be "bought"....we were referred to him by a mutual friend, and also have known the manager of the yacht club for years...since he was a teenager, in fact....You have a very warped idea of the world, Ed Gordon.... -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Ed, If that's your definition of rich, then that's great...however, there
are those who also consider their Beamer, their 4K sq ft house, and their accoutrements as being gifts from God. They also consider their lives to be rich in more than just money. Don't be so hasty to judge others just because they like their possessions or have more than you. That makes your definition smack of insincerity. -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
He has a lot of gay friends at his yacht club.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "EdGordonRN" wrote in message ... At my yacht club, if you have to ask, you can't afford it. To get in, you need a sponser to fill out the admission forms, and letters of recommendation from two more members. Why do you bother? What do you get out of that? People approving of you and you have to pay for the privilage of people approving you? For a boat club? Maybe there's something I don't get. Tell me, does anyone actually wear a blazer with an emblem and a captains hat? |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
I belong to a yacht club, and find it to be an excellent way for people
who do not or cannot own lakeside property to enjoy the water and boating. My club requires three sponsors, and a guest membership period in order for the applicant and the membership to make sure they are comfortable with each other. The only routine paid services utilized by the club are mowing the grass, garbage pick-up, and a weekly housecleaning, so it is very important that members clean up after themselves, pitch in to help on semi-annual workdays, and serve on various committees. In return, members have access to a marine railway, dry storage, wet slips, launching ramps, docks, swim area, a club house that can be reserved for private events at no charge, personal lockers, camping areas, organized rowing and sailing programs, and the society of congenial people for frequent social events. All of this is at an annual cost about half of the annual lease of a slip for a 25 foot boat in a commercial marina. We have a limited number of club owwned boats available for member use on a first-come, first served basis, including a laser, a j-22, a couple of sunfish, rowing skulls, and a couple of canoes. Multi-class club races are held roughly everty two weeks year round, and there is ample opportunity to participate as a crew member or by skippering one of the club boats. Since the membership jointly owns a multimillion $ facility, a modest initiation fee ($1200 when I joined) and a process of ensuring mutual compatability between members and candidates is appropriate, in my opinion. We are a southern club, and do not descriminate based on race, creed, or social status. Our membership includes a butcher, a few doctors, school teachers, college professors, a smattering of yankees, an English couple, a Frenchman, and at least one athiest. -- Elmo "EdGordonRN" wrote in message ... At my yacht club, if you have to ask, you can't afford it. To get in, you need a sponser to fill out the admission forms, and letters of recommendation from two more members. Why do you bother? What do you get out of that? People approving of you and you have to pay for the privilage of people approving you? For a boat club? Maybe there's something I don't get. Tell me, does anyone actually wear a blazer with an emblem and a captains hat? |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Sailing gets me closer
to God and I get to do it all the time. That is the most damaging anti-sailing comment ever. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
I would consider it a curse if I had
to have a BMW Why is that? BMW's arent that expensive! And some of them are a lot of fun to drive. If the M3 goes to AWD and gets some headroom, I'd buy one. It's just a car that even you could afford. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
however, there
are those who also consider their Beamer, their 4K sq ft house, and their accoutrements as being gifts from God. Man, it's easy to see why this country is a conservative pool of filth when people are thanking invisble "forces" for their own hard work. Poor Katy was brainwashed. She would not know of "god" unless it had been taught to her. Oh, George Carlin, where art thou? RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Beauregard wrote:
I belong to a yacht club, and find it to be an excellent way for people who do not or cannot own lakeside property to enjoy the water and boating. My club requires three sponsors, and a guest membership period in order for the applicant and the membership to make sure they are comfortable with each other. And a bottle of Jack Daniels for the drive home. ... Our membership includes a butcher, a few doctors, school teachers, college professors, a smattering of yankees, an English couple, a Frenchman, and at least one athiest. Dammit, you all let in Yankees?!? Where's your sense of pride! But at least you don't let in lawyers... DSK |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Gee...our sponsor owns a very small marina of his own up on White Lake and
drives around in cut-offs in his beat up Ford pick-up...he's just a plain, old nice guy and he'd probably rearrange the face if someone suggested he could be "bought".... Uh, yeah, sounds like a nice guy. Actually, he sounds like a dangerous guy, but I'm trying to be agreeable. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Ed, If that's your definition of rich, then that's great...however, there
are those who also consider their Beamer, their 4K sq ft house, and their accoutrements as being gifts from God. They also consider their lives to be rich in more than just money. Don't be so hasty to judge others just because they like their possessions or have more than you. That makes your definition smack of insincerity. It's not about things; it's about attitude. I'm all about building the kingdom of God on earth (actually, that's all we all are about) and the wealthy have a major handicap in that area. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
That is the most damaging anti-sailing comment ever.
Why so? Do you think because I sail with God that I am somehow not 'liberal" enough to sail? I assure you: I have no politics and no cause other than to be a tool in the construction of the Kingdom of God. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Why is that? BMW's arent that expensive! And some of them are a lot of fun to
drive. If the M3 goes to AWD and gets some headroom, I'd buy one. It's just a car that even you could afford. No, no, no, no. That's not what I mean. If a person likes a car for the car's sake, that's a different story. If I hate a car, but drive it so others will think I'm better than they are, above what they are, then I'm in hell. For instance, large SUVs cost more than the smaller BMWs and Mercedes. It's not about the car; it's about the attitude. IMHO anyway. |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
It's not
about the car; it's about the attitude. IMHO anyway. Right, I agree. I'm driving a STI which clobbers the more expensive M3 and I could care less that it's a Subaru. If Kia or Lincoln ever makes a good car, I'd buy it. Names be damned. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
I have no politics and no cause other than to be
a tool in the construction of the Kingdom of God. The problem is that you should respect others enough to keep "your" god to yourself. I only wish Bush could understand this basic ideal. Enjoy the sailing. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Yea, and y'all otta see what it takes to get into a major gang.
"Marc" wrote in message ... Paraphrasing Groucho Marx, Why on earth would you want to belong to a club that would have you as a member? |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Right, I agree. I'm driving a STI which clobbers the more expensive M3
LOL.................................... S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster" "No shirt, no skirt, full service" |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
|
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
But if you've ever been touched by the spirit, you know it's not that
simple. Faith is the opposite of blind trust. Faith IS blind trust, regardless of your other comments. You've never been touched by a spirit, though you may actually believe that. It's easy to see why religion kills so many. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Right, I agree. I'm driving a STI which clobbers the more expensive M3
LOL.................................... Look it up, dumbass! I have an M3 to drive and it only has a slight advantage after 120 mph. AWD hook up is too much for the M3. You could spend weeks looking for the perfect launch while the STI does it every time. I think you probably don't even know how to drive! Lincoln? Wahahahaahahaha! Love that cheap thang! RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
DSK wrote: Beauregard wrote: I belong to a yacht club, and find it to be an excellent way for people who do not or cannot own lakeside property to enjoy the water and boating. My club requires three sponsors, and a guest membership period in order for the applicant and the membership to make sure they are comfortable with each other. And a bottle of Jack Daniels for the drive home. ... Our membership includes a butcher, a few doctors, school teachers, college professors, a smattering of yankees, an English couple, a Frenchman, and at least one athiest. Dammit, you all let in Yankees?!? Where's your sense of pride! But at least you don't let in lawyers... Ever checked out the entry fee and annual fees of the SanDiego yacht club??? Cheers |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
"Dave" wrote in message ... On 19 May 2004 01:59:21 GMT, topspam (EdGordonRN) said: Not people with money--a person can't do much about the money they either have or don't have--I mean the rich person. With that point of view, you're sure to remain a pathetic loser. Actually, I think that he is likely to maintain his self-respect! Regards Donal -- |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
"Bobsprit" wrote in message ... But if you've ever been touched by the spirit, you know it's not that simple. Faith is the opposite of blind trust. Faith IS blind trust, regardless of your other comments. Rubbish!! How did the Universe come into existence? Faith is the only option that is available to the enquiring mind. If your small mind is capable of considering the origins of the Universe, then you will realise that there are only three options. 1) God created it. 2) It is endlessly expanding and contracting 3) It was created in a single event which resulted in equal amounts of "matter" and "anti-matter". Which option do you believe in? Let me guess! You are sooooo shallow that you don't subscribe to any of the above theories??? Regards Donal -- |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
OzOne wrote: On Thu, 20 May 2004 10:10:39 +1200, Navigator scribbled thusly: Ever checked out the entry fee and annual fees of the SanDiego yacht club??? Cheers Oh yeah! Raced out of there many years ago. The older you get, the more you pay in membership. I like the bit where you pay at the start of the year for the food and beverages you'll consume in the coming year...must pay the accountants a fortune to come up with that one :-) They've simplified to a monthly minimum charge now. I couild not beleive the charges and it seemed so silly when their club house facilities are not a patch on ours. Anyway I'm allowed to use their facilities for free Heheh... Cheers |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
How did the Universe come into existence?
Absence of understanding does not invite fairy tales, or at least it shouldn't. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Faith is the only option that is available to the enquiring mind.
Faith is the refuge for the ignorant. It dissallows speculation and free thought. Because of faith, the 9/11 terrorists could not even imagine that they were doing something evil. The fundmental operational element of faith was and always will be ignorance. People once believed with all certainly that the world was flat, just as you believe in a mythical being, just as some folks believe in ghosts. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
If your small mind is capable of considering the origins of the Universe,
Faith does not allow for "consideration." Being agnostic is the only open minded system since it invites all theories. You were told there was a god. Seemed like a fine idea. You were taught about faith. You might have been taught we were ruled by giant Pumpkins. You need to do some basic reading on the origins of religion and social conditioning. RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
Donal wrote:
How did the Universe come into existence? I have never heard any answer to that question that isn't predicated on assumption. Faith is the only option that is available to the enquiring mind. Agreed - faith that whatever assumptions one makes are true. If your small mind is capable of considering the origins of the Universe, then you will realise that there are only three options. 1) God created it. Not only does this presuppose that there was a god to do the creating, it begs the quesiton of how he came into existence. If one is to claim that he has always existed, then Occam's Razor would suggest that there is no need to invoke a creator that has always existed, when a universe that has always existed will do just as well. 2) It is endlessly expanding and contracting Maybe, maybe not. 3) It was created in a single event which resulted in equal amounts of "matter" and "anti-matter". Maybe, maybe not. Which option do you believe in? I'm not sure the question can be answered. By "answered", I mean in terms that are generally acceptable - self-evidently true or capable of being observed or experienced. Compare "the sun is warm" with "god made the universe". Let me guess! You are sooooo shallow that you don't subscribe to any of the above theories??? Tsk, tsk. -- Wally www.forthsailing.com www.wally.myby.co.uk |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
3) It was created in a single event which resulted in equal amounts of
"matter" and "anti-matter". Which option do you believe in? Bwahaahaha! Pretty funny, Donal. I'm smart enough to not simply blindly except what some clown tells me. "God" was taught to you, just as it was taught to me. The difference is, I had the strength of character to question it. I'm not a sheep and I know that a lack of facts should not invite mumbo jumbo, voodoo or aliens. I'm off to meet Elvis on the Death Star now. E-mail me there! RB |
Yacht Clubs--a mistake
You are sooooo shallow that you don't subscribe to any of the
above theories??? Donal illustrates what is so scary about religion. It's so insecure, so small, that those with faith must attack or even kill the non-believers. Rage on, Donal. Enjoy your "god." RB |
| All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:23 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2014 BoatBanter.com