We almost added a flat top cal 28 to the fleet. It just had too many
problems. Correctable, but time-consuming.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Many of the older Cals. Fantastic boats, very inexpensive.


I always liked the older Cal 28. I'm currently selling a newer version,
but I
liked the huge interior of the original. I had a friend who owned one and
it
sailed quite well, even with tired sails.

RB

Camper Nicolson I think 28, Grampian 30, Erickson 27, J24, Ranger 28, Edel I
think 885 is the designation though they are rare. There are more if we
would just get a bit obscure
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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My list...while avoiding very, very old boats....

Bristol 27
Catalina 27
Cape Dory 25 (70s model)
C&C 25 (70s)
Pearson 25


RB

You will also have trouble finding a folkboat under $10,000 that isn't junk.
"DSK" wrote in message
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JAXAshby wrote:

btw dougies, wanna tell us how much more space a Hunter 19 has compared
to a
Folkboat?

Actually, the H-19 does have more room. Probably about the same stowage.
Here's a test... go aboard a Folkboat and invite two couples (average
sized
adults) to sit in the salon and have hot drinks. If you can lean back,
relax, and
not have somebody elses elbows or knees jutting into you, then the room is
at least
comparable.

However, I've been in a Folkboat and I don't see this happening...


How about passage miles difference between the two?

I calculated a few years back that we'd sailed 960 miles in the Hunter,
and made a
rough figure that we'd trailered it 15,000. We've probably at least
doubled that
since.

But of course, by your definition Hunter 19s never cruise. Which of course
leaves
on wondering how you explain this

http://community.webshots.com/album/37908878jiBMxv

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

When was the last
time ... or your boat... spent a 3 day weekend cruising comfortably
in pleasant sailing waters 275 miles away from it's home slip?

JAXAshby wrote:
2003

Yeah, sure. The only way your boat would go 275 miles, and back, in three days
is if it were on a flatbed truck.

But look at the bright side, that way you don't have to worry about those
rocks at Cape Hattaras, or finding the elusive Gulf Stream.

DSK

nah.

You will also have trouble finding a folkboat under $10,000 that isn't junk.

my boat is south of Cape Hatteras. This time last year it wasn't.

When was the last
time ... or your boat... spent a 3 day weekend cruising comfortably
in pleasant sailing waters 275 miles away from it's home slip?

JAXAshby wrote:
2003

Yeah, sure. The only way your boat would go 275 miles, and back, in three
days
is if it were on a flatbed truck.

But look at the bright side, that way you don't have to worry about those
rocks at Cape Hattaras, or finding the elusive Gulf Stream.

DSK

DSK wrote...
JAXAshby wrote:
....snip...
FWIW dougie, a couple of years ago a 75 year old man crossed the North Atlantic
east to west in a Folkboat. Know anyone at all -- let alone one 75 years --
who has crossed the NA in a Hunter 19 in either direction?

Crossing oceans is not the only way to evaluate a cruising boat. When was the last
time a Folkboat... or your boat... spent a 3 day weekend cruising comfortably in
pleasant sailing waters 275 miles away from it's home slip? Or a weeks vacation
over 600 miles away?
....snip...
Wait, look at me trying to talk sense to Jax. Phooey.

Doug,

This last point is, of course, your essential error. grin

But to address the issue, unlike Jax's imaginary friend who sails
upwind under bare poles and motors for months on a gallon of gas, I
have crossed the Atlantic on a Folkboat clone. I recommend against it.

Frank

JAXAshby wrote:
my boat is south of Cape Hatteras. This time last year it wasn't.

And that, in your opinion, constitutes a three day weekend? Maybe this
accounts for your spotty employment record.

DSK

Frank Maier wrote:
But to address the issue, unlike Jax's imaginary friend who sails
upwind under bare poles and motors for months on a gallon of gas, I
have crossed the Atlantic on a Folkboat clone. I recommend against it.

What would you say were the main plusses and minusses of the boat? What
rout did you take and what season was it? Sounds like a cool trip, and
obviously you survived

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

You forgot the Seidelmann 30 .

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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My list...while avoiding very, very old boats....

Bristol 27
Catalina 27
Cape Dory 25 (70s model)
C&C 25 (70s)
Pearson 25


RB