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JAXAshby March 1st 04 06:34 AM

Lifelines
 
jeffies, I never used the word "lost", only you did. I have never used the
word "Maine", only you did.

On the other hand, *you* have never used the term "training wheels" for your
boat, only the rest of the world has.

I've been "out there" many times, jaxie, but I've never been lost like you
were.
What you describe is the anxiety of navigating inshore amongst the rocks of
the
Maine Coast, in the fog, before the days of Loran and Radar. Where you
were,
with 3 GPS's and Loran, you should have had no doubt at all, and you
shouldn't
have been within 5 miles of a hazard.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no jeffies, it did not mean we were withing 100 feet of hitting something.

It
meant we hadn't yet seen a light we expected to see, and if we didn't see

it
****soon**** we would do the prudent thing and backtrack until we were

sure
the light was out or something. we found the light right where it was
expected.

go out there sometime jeffies and you will find out that one does indeed

watch
for lights. training wheels motorboat operators, on the other hand, motor

a
bit and stop, motor a bit and stop, stay stopped because it might rain or

the
bread is stale or whatever.

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That

sounds
an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles inside

of
a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid you
were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no

hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to avoid,

its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!
























JAXAshby March 1st 04 06:37 AM

Lifelines
 
joony, you dumb squat. you have no capability to read an id line. notice,
dumb squat the difference between @aol.com on my id line and
@posting.google.com of the clown who posts as me, you and everyone else.

???

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
. com...
As lost as Gaynzy in a whorehouse.

JAX

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
Yup. Sounds like he was lost.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?


actually, we had three, and a LORAN and a fine, fine sextant with

tables
and
chronometer and radio for time ticks.

we weren't lost, and nobody but you has said we were.

and why, jeffies, to *you* keep talking about dirty pants when

discussing
being
on the ocean at night in a flat calm?

the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.













Jeff Morris March 1st 04 01:55 PM

Lifelines
 
I love it when you go into your "training wheels" routine. It just reeks of
jealously! You'll never have a boat as nice as mine; and you'll certainly never
have the pleasure of taking your family anywhere!



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, I never used the word "lost", only you did. I have never used the
word "Maine", only you did.

On the other hand, *you* have never used the term "training wheels" for your
boat, only the rest of the world has.

I've been "out there" many times, jaxie, but I've never been lost like you
were.
What you describe is the anxiety of navigating inshore amongst the rocks of
the
Maine Coast, in the fog, before the days of Loran and Radar. Where you
were,
with 3 GPS's and Loran, you should have had no doubt at all, and you
shouldn't
have been within 5 miles of a hazard.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no jeffies, it did not mean we were withing 100 feet of hitting something.

It
meant we hadn't yet seen a light we expected to see, and if we didn't see

it
****soon**** we would do the prudent thing and backtrack until we were

sure
the light was out or something. we found the light right where it was
expected.

go out there sometime jeffies and you will find out that one does indeed

watch
for lights. training wheels motorboat operators, on the other hand, motor

a
bit and stop, motor a bit and stop, stay stopped because it might rain or

the
bread is stale or whatever.

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That

sounds
an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles inside

of
a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid you
were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no

hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to avoid,

its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!


























JAXAshby March 1st 04 02:18 PM

Lifelines
 
I love it when you go into your "training wheels" routine. It just reeks of
jealously! You'll never have a boat as nice as mine; and you'll certainly
never
have the pleasure of taking your family anywhere!


jeffies, you sound like a third grade kid in a sandbox bragging about his
plastic Tonka truck.



SkitchNYC March 1st 04 03:39 PM

Lifelines
 
bragging about his
plastic Tonka truck.


Are they making Tonka trucks out of plastic now? What a shame.

JAXAshby March 1st 04 03:54 PM

Lifelines
 
Tonka (of Mound MN and on Lake Minnetonka) has been out of business for years.

Used to be one fine run in a sportscar down Cty Rd 15, Wayzata to Mound. Bunch
of curves posted 15 mph to 45 that with skill could be taken at 3x.

bragging about his
plastic Tonka truck.


Are they making Tonka trucks out of plastic now? What a shame.









SkitchNYC March 1st 04 04:24 PM

Lifelines
 
Tonka (of Mound MN and on Lake Minnetonka) has been out of business for
years.


You didn't google hard enough. Tonka was acquired by Hasbro in 1991, and as a
division of Hasbro still makes trucks.

Jonathan Ganz March 1st 04 05:01 PM

Lifelines
 
jaxass, who gives a crap who said what. you're by far the
smallest pinhead.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
joony, you dumb squat. you have no capability to read an id line.

notice,
dumb squat the difference between @aol.com on my id line and
@posting.google.com of the clown who posts as me, you and everyone else.

???

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
. com...
As lost as Gaynzy in a whorehouse.

JAX

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

...
Yup. Sounds like he was lost.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?


actually, we had three, and a LORAN and a fine, fine sextant with

tables
and
chronometer and radio for time ticks.

we weren't lost, and nobody but you has said we were.

and why, jeffies, to *you* keep talking about dirty pants when

discussing
being
on the ocean at night in a flat calm?

the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.















Jonathan Ganz March 1st 04 05:01 PM

Lifelines
 
sounds like you're a bit sensitive about being lost

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, I never used the word "lost", only you did. I have never used

the
word "Maine", only you did.

On the other hand, *you* have never used the term "training wheels" for

your
boat, only the rest of the world has.

I've been "out there" many times, jaxie, but I've never been lost like

you
were.
What you describe is the anxiety of navigating inshore amongst the rocks

of
the
Maine Coast, in the fog, before the days of Loran and Radar. Where you
were,
with 3 GPS's and Loran, you should have had no doubt at all, and you
shouldn't
have been within 5 miles of a hazard.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no jeffies, it did not mean we were withing 100 feet of hitting

something.
It
meant we hadn't yet seen a light we expected to see, and if we didn't

see
it
****soon**** we would do the prudent thing and backtrack until we were

sure
the light was out or something. we found the light right where it was
expected.

go out there sometime jeffies and you will find out that one does

indeed
watch
for lights. training wheels motorboat operators, on the other hand,

motor
a
bit and stop, motor a bit and stop, stay stopped because it might rain

or
the
bread is stale or whatever.

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That

sounds
an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles

inside
of
a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid

you
were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no

hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to

avoid,
its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!


























Jonathan Ganz March 1st 04 05:02 PM

Lifelines
 
jaxass is lost. what can one say.

"SkitchNYC" wrote in message
...
Tonka (of Mound MN and on Lake Minnetonka) has been out of business for
years.


You didn't google hard enough. Tonka was acquired by Hasbro in 1991, and

as a
division of Hasbro still makes trucks.




JAXAshby March 1st 04 05:10 PM

Lifelines
 
As stated, Tonka of Mound MN on Lake Minnetonka has been out of business a long
time. I seem to recall that the Tonka brand lay dormant for some time, at
least until after bunkrupcy issues were sorted out, and perhaps for some time
after that.

Rumor had it that Freddy who interited the op liked his women, and for a while,
his race cars.

however, skitch, if you and jeffies still can find new Tonka trucks to play in
the sandbox together, good on ya.

Tonka (of Mound MN and on Lake Minnetonka) has been out of business for
years.


You didn't google hard enough. Tonka was acquired by Hasbro in 1991, and as
a
division of Hasbro still makes trucks.









JAXAshby March 1st 04 05:29 PM

Lifelines
 
joony wrote

[snip of all but the the information presented]



Jonathan Ganz March 1st 04 06:22 PM

Lifelines
 
Yup. You were lost.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
joony wrote

[snip of all but the the information presented]





otnmbrd March 1st 04 06:52 PM

Lifelines
 


JAXAshby wrote:
He's not the only one following this thread and laughing at you.

otn



so, over the knee, are you saying I should be worried about what bay sailors
tied to the dock except on less than 7 knot days think?


Nope. I'm just saying he's not the only one laughing at you ....
couldn't care less for your worries.

otn


otnmbrd March 1st 04 06:58 PM

Lifelines
 


JAXAshby wrote:
It still says nothing. Lots of people spent time at McMurdo that don't know
squat about boats or navigation.



huh? a career merchant marine/ocean racer with decades of experience who has
spent enough time in MuMurdo Sound to have received a plaque for it knows from
nothing about boats or navigation?

jeffies, you drive a water tricycle. you can't find McMurdo on a map without
using google.com.




G Still doesn't tell us nuffin .... for all we know he was a career
merchant marine BR, in which he case he doesn't know squat about boats
and navigation.

otn


JAXAshby March 1st 04 08:50 PM

Lifelines
 
couldn't care less for your worries.

otn


thank you so much. I was so concerned that you might worry about something
that doesn't exist and wouldn't concern you if it did.

JAXAshby March 1st 04 09:05 PM

Lifelines
 
yes, of course, over-the-knee. You know everything and he knew nothing.

huh? a career merchant marine/ocean racer with decades of experience who

has
spent enough time in MuMurdo Sound to have received a plaque for it knows

from
nothing about boats or navigation?

jeffies, you drive a water tricycle. you can't find McMurdo on a map

without
using google.com.




G Still doesn't tell us nuffin .... for all we know he was a career
merchant marine BR, in which he case he doesn't know squat about boats
and navigation.

otn










Jeff Morris March 1st 04 09:37 PM

Lifelines
 
I'd go with that. The only thing we know about your skipper is that he picked
you as a crew.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes, of course, over-the-knee. You know everything and he knew nothing.




JAXAshby March 1st 04 09:51 PM

Lifelines
 
seems a good choice. nothing broke, no drama.

I'd go with that. The only thing we know about your skipper is that he
picked
you as a crew.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes, of course, over-the-knee. You know everything and he knew nothing.












Jonathan Ganz March 1st 04 09:56 PM

Lifelines
 
I bet he's not do that again.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
I'd go with that. The only thing we know about your skipper is that he

picked
you as a crew.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yes, of course, over-the-knee. You know everything and he knew nothing.






otnmbrd March 2nd 04 05:17 AM

Lifelines
 


JAXAshby wrote:
yes, of course, over-the-knee. You know everything and he knew nothing.


snip

......and I repeat.....

G Still doesn't tell us nuffin .... for all we know he was a career
merchant marine BR, in which he case he doesn't know squat about boats
and navigation.

otn


Beginning to sound like another figment of your imagination. Your
knowledge of general navigation, certainly is.

otn



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