Big brave Jax
 

Big brave Jax. Did you win the war all by yourself too? Big brave guy like
yourself, posting under a pseudonym!!!!!!
Bwhahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in
combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

:-)

Lifelines
 

You've learned about fetch???

a very long time ago.

I'm really impressed.

you are easily impressed.

I seem
to remember

no you don't.

Soon, you'll be able to find the Gulf Stream.

I am in good company. Jennifer Clark has a hard time as well.

Donal

what a stew ped name. Did you make it up?

Big brave Jax
 

racko-nos pam tells us *he* can't sail in winds above 5 knots thusly:

Big brave Jax. Did you win the war all by yourself too? Big brave guy like
yourself, posting under a pseudonym!!!!!!
Bwhahahhahahahhahahahahahahaha
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in
combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

:-)

Lifelines
 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:41:05 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Only 1000 years bottom boy? Even with your sarcasm
you're wrong.

I'm always right, and you'll always be Jon-boy, dumbass.





This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Lifelines
 

You might be right, but he claims he tested them twice.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You should NOT. We're talking about gear. Don't rely on them.
As you said, the stanchion can fail. That's part of the lifeline system.
Don't rely on them.

Bob isn't as stupid as you think.

I'm sure that he is sensible enough to realise that his stanchions were
not
designed to take the weight of a person of his stature!



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

More like the war idiot.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in
combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

Ahhh ha ha ha hhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Now we have "Jax the war hero"!!!! Whatever next?



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

Sounds like someone with lots of experience being "cut off."

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
do you suppose jonny's favorite porn site cut him off?


From: "Jonathan Ganz"


Yeah, as far as you know... which isn't very far.

You're the WINNER when it comes to getting nasty for no
reason, so go f*ck yourself. You were at least tolerable
when you were a blatant asshole. Now, you're just a wimp.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore
2.



What diff does it make if he's offshore or not. As far as I know, NO
ONE
here
has done any serious sailing-crossed oceans and such. Unless you have
video of
your voyage, you can't prove a thing either. Still, many of the issues
we
debate here can be discussed, even by an armchair sailor. I see no
reason
to
become nasty over an opinion, just because it fails to match your own.
Most of us are coastal sailors and some are on lakes. The idea that
conditions
can't get bad on the LI sound or on lakes or anywhere is plain silly.

RB

Lifelines
 

Well, they say left is right and right is wrong. So, I guess
you are right.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 15:41:05 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Only 1000 years bottom boy? Even with your sarcasm
you're wrong.

I'm always right, and you'll always be Jon-boy, dumbass.





This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe

Lifelines
 

Said like a person who knows very little about boats!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. They're the grap of
last resort.


Last resort? Don't rely on them?
I never heard anything like this before.

RB

Lifelines
 

Yep... sounds like you're right.

"98stratus" wrote in message
...
Said like a person who knows very little about boats!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. They're the grip of
last resort.


Last resort? Don't rely on them?
I never heard anything like this before.

RB

Big brave Jax
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
racko-nos pam tells us *he* can't sail in winds above 5 knots thusly:

No, Jax! You failed a simple comprehendion test again.



He told us that you were a **coward**.



Regards

Donal
--

Lifelines
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Donal

what a stew ped name. Did you make it up?

You are obviously too stupid to realise that "jax" is slang for "toilet" in
many parts if the world!!!



Regards


Donal
--

Big brave Jax
 

bye-bye donny.

Lifelines
 

and "genius" in most? While "donal" means "abortion of a cousin's fetus"?


Donal

what a stew ped name. Did you make it up?

You are obviously too stupid to realise that "jax" is slang for "toilet" in
many parts if the world!!!



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

Appropos of nothing whatsoever the Peace Corps, in their attempts to improve
the lot in life of the folks in American Samoa, introduced them to the
concept of 'outhouses.' In great - full thanks the Samoans named the
structures appropriately. "Pisi Corpi's" Which described the entire
situation quite well.

A little bit of modern history.

M.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Donal

what a stew ped name. Did you make it up?

You are obviously too stupid to realise that "jax" is slang for "toilet"
in
many parts if the world!!!



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

Sounds like a building appropriate for a jax.

"Michael" wrote in message
...
Appropos of nothing whatsoever the Peace Corps, in their attempts to
improve
the lot in life of the folks in American Samoa, introduced them to the
concept of 'outhouses.' In great - full thanks the Samoans named the
structures appropriately. "Pisi Corpi's" Which described the entire
situation quite well.

A little bit of modern history.

M.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Donal

what a stew ped name. Did you make it up?

You are obviously too stupid to realise that "jax" is slang for "toilet"
in
many parts if the world!!!



Regards


Donal
--

Big brave Jax
 

Exactly.
John Cairns
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
racko-nos pam tells us *he* can't sail in winds above 5 knots thusly:

No, Jax! You failed a simple comprehendion test again.



He told us that you were a **coward**.



Regards

Donal
--

Lifelines
 

In article , John Cairns
wrote:

But, most of us don't race offshore.And most of don't have boats equipped to
offshore specs. And, there was one recent example of a noted racer on the
East Coast, who got coshed on the head by a spinnaker pole, went overboard
and drowned, in spite of those all-important lifelines.There was talk
afterwards about requiring auto pfds but nothing mentioned about modifying
lifelines.

We use auto-inflating pfd's when working on the trawl decks. Go
overside (or down the ramp) into water at -1.5C and you'll curl up from
shock and sink before we could get you back. With an auto-inflating
pfd, there's some chance of getting back alive.

The pfd's we use also have a built in harness with lift point so you
can clip onto a wire safety line and also be picked up by crane,
chopper etc if you're unconscious without any unnecessary delay.

Nobody except Arctic fishermen work in the conditions at sea that we do.

Peter Wiley

Lifelines
 

Hey Nutsy,

I've been known to crawl on the Fore Deck but I've found it to be much
better to slide on my ASS using my hands and HEELS.

Hands and knees kind of limits your visablity and balance

Any way you can keep yourself on board is the correct way.

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

you are more likely to fall overboard *either* way than if you walk on your
hands and feet, your balance as low as possible.

I've been known to crawl on the Fore Deck but I've found it to be much
better to slide on my ASS using my hands and HEELS.

Hands and knees kind of limits your visablity and balance

Any way you can keep yourself on board is the correct way.

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

What Port did you duck into?

OT

Lifelines
 

Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to 90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

What are lifelines for?

A hand hold to get on the boat, A place to grab to bring the boat closer
to the dock, something to hold onto when you're rail meat. A place to
tie off sheets when the furler is furled, a place to tie off the boom
tent, a back rest when a foam roll is added, a tie off for fenders, a
cloth line, a hand hold when going forward from the cockpit and coming
back, a place to rig splash guards, a place to hang drink holder for
beer cans, a barracade to keep from stepping off the boat by accident,
etc

They might even keep you from going in the drink if you lose your
balance. they might even help you maintain yourself on the high side
when heeling (?)

They are neat to have but aren't really necessary.

I like mine!

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

Hold on hoss... I wouldn't recommend using them for either a hand hold
or for bring the boat closer. Too easy to damage them. Nor would I use
them for tying off any sheet that is under load, nor would I use them for
a backrest or fenders. (For fenders, if they're not positioned properly,
they could pull the lifelines right off if they get caught, e.g., like when
one
ties up on a non-floating dock and the tide changes.)

A hand hold is fine combined with proper weight distribution and balance.
Splash guards are fine as well as netting. Drink holders are fine, but I
believe
they make some that fit over a winch, and to keep from stepping off by
accident seems to be the best use.

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
What are lifelines for?

A hand hold to get on the boat, A place to grab to bring the boat closer
to the dock, something to hold onto when you're rail meat. A place to
tie off sheets when the furler is furled, a place to tie off the boom
tent, a back rest when a foam roll is added, a tie off for fenders, a
cloth line, a hand hold when going forward from the cockpit and coming
back, a place to rig splash guards, a place to hang drink holder for
beer cans, a barracade to keep from stepping off the boat by accident,
etc

They might even keep you from going in the drink if you lose your
balance. they might even help you maintain yourself on the high side
when heeling (?)

They are neat to have but aren't really necessary.

I like mine!

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink, until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

My compass points north (pretty much). So if my heading has changed
and the compass is still pointing pretty much north, then it should be
pretty obvious (unless one is blind) not to notice the difference.

Excuse me... I meant to type heading not course.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the
wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from
190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

The little needle point to mostly north. It will be in a different position
relative to the bow of the boat if you change course. I know this is
difficult for you to grasp. Keep flailing away. BTW, I meant if
one's heading changes.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190*
to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

Jax,

You were west of the Gulf stream following the 100 fathom mark and you
were about 100 miles Off Shore

Where were you heading for going that far off shore heading South?

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
My compass points north (pretty much). So if my heading has changed
and the compass is still pointing pretty much north, then it should be
pretty obvious (unless one is blind) not to notice the difference.

Excuse me... I meant to type heading not course.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...

My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff


BG Let the "Word Games" begin !!

otn

Lifelines
 

yeah, "heading". And our heading did not change when we got caught in the eddy
of the Gulf Stream. In fact, we would not have even noticed except that we
happened to be viewing gps's at that moment. Eerie.



My compass points north (pretty much). So if my heading has changed
and the compass is still pointing pretty much north, then it should be
pretty obvious (unless one is blind) not to notice the difference.

Excuse me... I meant to type heading not course.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the
wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from
190* to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

our heading didn't change (as shown by the compass and the clouds in the sky),
just our course (as shown by the gps's).

The little needle point to mostly north. It will be in a different position
relative to the bow of the boat if you change course. I know this is
difficult for you to grasp. Keep flailing away. BTW, I meant if
one's heading changes.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed* but tells you NOT a thing about which way you boat is
actually going?

obviously, you were not aware of that.

Gee, and I thought a compass would change if one's course changes.
Must not be true on whatever planet you're on.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax,

You aren't going to tell us again, that you were traveling south in
the
Gulf Stream.

olde fart, we were traveling south, trying to stay just to the west of
the
Gulf
Stream (and trying to stay outside the 100 fathom line in case the wind
picked
up), when an eddy caught us and in seconds shifted our course from 190*
to
90*
(as discovered on two gps's being toyed with at the time, and then
confimed by
LORAN), with no noticeable change in compass heading or clouds in the
sky
or
change in sounds of the water going by. The two of us playing with
individual
gps's each believed our individual machines had gone on the blink,
until
the
LORAN confirmed what had happened.


What Port did you duck into?

We didn't certainly didn't need to run to shore. We just tacked. We
were
about 100 miles off shore at the time.


OT

Lifelines
 

St. Agustine, having passed Cape Hatteras.

Jax,

You were west of the Gulf stream following the 100 fathom mark and you
were about 100 miles Off Shore

Where were you heading for going that far off shore heading South?

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 07:55:20 -0800 (PST), (Thom
Stewart) wrote:

Hey Nutsy,

I've been known to crawl on the Fore Deck but I've found it to be much
better to slide on my ASS using my hands and HEELS.

Hands and knees kind of limits your visablity and balance

Any way you can keep yourself on board is the correct way.

Ole Thom

If you weren't a doddering, stumbling, drunk, you wouldn't have these
problems.

You appear to be the only poster here who doesn't know that OT doesn't
drink.

I wonder how it feels to be publicly humiliated. How does it feel to be the
only poster who is unaware that OT gave up alcohol some time ago?



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my "bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

The same kind as his brain... non-existent.

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my
"bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup stups who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of such. dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my "bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

Lifelines
 

Hey Jaxie, maybe I should repost where you claimed that the variation was
meaningless because you never bothered to use it. Or the time you claimed "dip"
was a function of the compass, not of the Earth. How about when you insisted
that gyrocompasses are incapable of aligning automatically?

But my favorite is:
"a compass never has told you anything other than which way is North and so
never was worth much as a "navigation" tool."


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup stups who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of such. dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my "bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--