Lifelines
 

Sounds a lot like you're making this all up, though the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.

You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Jax is referring to Diamond Shoals which are easily avoided in good weather
by
going outside of the lighthouse. There are no rocks in the area.


two things. a.) the markers are there to mark things you can hit, and b.) I
remember many, many more lights for two or three or four or more hours while
we
were going through at night. I remember at one point we were within 20
seconds
of turning around because we couldn't see the next light, when I saw it,
followed by maybe 10 seconds later by the owner, who was a career merchant
marine and had a couple decades racing offshore.

jeffies, if you don't think there weren't things to hit and break up a boat
there, certainly the owner of the boat did. And avoiding the Gulf Stream to
the east was the reason we were in so close.

jeffies, guys in training wheels don't normally even think of rounding
Hatteras, predictions of a flat calm or not.

Lifelines
 

jeffies, jeffies, jeffies. you are acting as a petulant little boy wearing
short pants and riding training wheels.

of course I wasn't navigating. The career merchant marine with the decades of
offshore racing was navigating. It was his boat. duh.

And I was most certainly on watch. In fact, because my night eye sight was
better than the owner's whose was much better than the other crew, the
owner/merchant marine/ocean racer asked me to help in spotting the lights. And
as I said, at one point we were within 20 seconds of turning around before I
spotted the light (barely), the owner spotting the light about 10 seconds later
(barely for him, surely for me).

what's to be scared of at Hatteras in a flat calm. The owner/merchant
marine/ocean racer had been taking november mike weather forecasts twice a day
since before the trip started, and had the charts onboard to make a run to any
potentially needed port of refuge. I, for my own interest, had been watching
any developing lows off West Africa for more than a week before we set off.
There was nothing of concern at all off Africa when we left, which meant -- at
the worse -- we still had a minium of 10 days without the potential of a
hurricane developing (it was August, after all, and thus hurricanes were a
potential).

geesh, jeffies, just admit you motor training wheels and be done with it. Why
in hell do you keep wanting to argue that the Gulf Stream doesn't have eddies,
and that Hatteras doesn't have lights to avoid off its end? no way in hell are
you going to take your vessel out there.

Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks. The only reason someone
would claim there are rocks there is if they never were there at all. Of
course, its also possible you were hiding down below, scared ****less at the
thought of passing Hatteras. Or maybe you were hanging over the side. One
thing is for sure, you weren't navigating!




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
see those markers and lights out there jeffie? dems tings ta hits.

Lifelines
 

Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks.

and the lights are there for what reason?

Lifelines
 

wrote in message ...
On 28 Feb 2004 22:04:26 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

bb, check the header. note the missing "h".


You need to check some headers yourself. That wasn't me.



YES IT WAS.

BB (JAX IS SO STEW PID)

Lifelines
 

You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?


actually, we had three, and a LORAN and a fine, fine sextant with tables and
chronometer and radio for time ticks.

we weren't lost, and nobody but you has said we were.

and why, jeffies, to *you* keep talking about dirty pants when discussing being
on the ocean at night in a flat calm?

the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.

Lifelines
 

Labomba182 (aka Capt Bill) posting as BB wrote:



)
Date: 2/29/2004 11:23 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Feb 2004 22:04:26 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote:

bb, check the header. note the missing "h".


You need to check some headers yourself. That wasn't me.



YES IT WAS.

BB (JAX IS SO STEW PID)

Lifelines
 

Are you really so stupid as to claim that the only reason for aids to navigation
is to mark rocks that could be hit by a small boat? Is "Soft As Puppy ****"
your middle name?



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks.

and the lights are there for what reason?

Lifelines
 

And your acting like your making it all up.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!

Lifelines
 

jeffies, jeffies, jeffies. I am picturing you as a petulant little boy
wearing short pants and riding training wheels and it makes me so
horny.

JAX

Lifzlines
 

JAXAshby wrote:
(JAXAshby) wrote in message
...
no kidding?

actually, looks like a chickensquat squathead to me. a little boy
angry that 98% of men don't want any man -- let alone him -- and
most of the last 2% wouldn't do him on a dare, even with money
involved.


Where as 98% of men DO want Jaxie and he's paid 2% of them to do him.

JAX(the REAL deal)

Lifelines
 

yeah, jeffies, that's it. mud. That is what the markers are for, that is why
the career merchant marine/decades ocean racer wished to avoid. mud.



Are you really so stupid as to claim that the only reason for aids to
navigation
is to mark rocks that could be hit by a small boat? Is "Soft As Puppy ****"
your middle name?



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks.

and the lights are there for what reason?

Lifelines
 

jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!

Lifelines
 

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That sounds an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles inside of a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid you were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to avoid, its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!

Lifelines
 

Subject: Lifelines
From: "Jeff Morris"

Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks. The only reason someone
would claim there are rocks there is if they never were there at all. Of
course, its also possible you were hiding down below, scared ****less at the
thought of passing Hatteras. Or maybe you were hanging over the side. One
thing is for sure, you weren't navigating!


The other reason he might claim they are rocks, is much simpler .... he doesn't
know how to read a chart (obviously).
You'll note that Jax only hires on as a crewmember for these trips and it's
obvious that't all he's qualified for.

Shen

Lifelines
 

Subject: Lifelines
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 02/29/2004 08:20 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks.

and the lights are there for what reason?



ROFL

Shen

Lifelines
 

Subject: Lifelines
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 02/29/2004 08:54 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

yeah, jeffies, that's it. mud. That is what the markers are for, that is
why
the career merchant marine/decades ocean racer wished to avoid. mud.


ROFL If that mud is 2 feet below the surface of the water, and your boat is
drawing 4 feet, wouldn't YOU want to avoid it?

BTW "career merchant marine" tells us little. Was he deck or engine? Officer or
crew?

Shen

Lifelines
 

Subject: Lifelines
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 02/28/2004 20:41 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

shen? have you *ever* in your life seen a chart, even once?


obviously not.


ROFL As expected, you don't know what I'm talking about, much less what you're
talking about.

Shen

Lifelines
 

no jeffies, it did not mean we were withing 100 feet of hitting something. It
meant we hadn't yet seen a light we expected to see, and if we didn't see it
****soon**** we would do the prudent thing and backtrack until we were sure
the light was out or something. we found the light right where it was
expected.

go out there sometime jeffies and you will find out that one does indeed watch
for lights. training wheels motorboat operators, on the other hand, motor a
bit and stop, motor a bit and stop, stay stopped because it might rain or the
bread is stale or whatever.

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That sounds
an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles inside of
a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid you
were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to avoid, its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!

Lifelines
 

the lights are there for laughing at? I didn't know that. thanks shen for
enlightening the world.

and the lights are there for what reason?



ROFL

Shen

Lifelines
 

we didn't discuss it much, but he did have a plaque in his home (end point of
the voyage was the dock in front of his home) for his service at MacMurdo
Station.

BTW "career merchant marine" tells us little. Was he deck or engine? Officer
or
crew?

Shen

Lifelines
 

We're laughing at your claim that all lights are marking rocks!!! You must be
scared ****less of all navaids.

Perhaps you should take that Power Squadron course and learn how to read a
chart. But first, you should learn how a compass works.






"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
the lights are there for laughing at? I didn't know that. thanks shen for
enlightening the world.

and the lights are there for what reason?



ROFL

Shen

Lifelines
 

It still says nothing. Lots of people spent time at McMurdo that don't know
squat about boats or navigation.

But whether he is an experienced mariner is not the point; regardless of that,
its clear you learned nothing from him, and probably had no concept of what he
was doing.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
we didn't discuss it much, but he did have a plaque in his home (end point of
the voyage was the dock in front of his home) for his service at MacMurdo
Station.

BTW "career merchant marine" tells us little. Was he deck or engine? Officer
or
crew?

Shen

Lifelines
 

I've been "out there" many times, jaxie, but I've never been lost like you were.
What you describe is the anxiety of navigating inshore amongst the rocks of the
Maine Coast, in the fog, before the days of Loran and Radar. Where you were,
with 3 GPS's and Loran, you should have had no doubt at all, and you shouldn't
have been within 5 miles of a hazard.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no jeffies, it did not mean we were withing 100 feet of hitting something. It
meant we hadn't yet seen a light we expected to see, and if we didn't see it
****soon**** we would do the prudent thing and backtrack until we were sure
the light was out or something. we found the light right where it was
expected.

go out there sometime jeffies and you will find out that one does indeed watch
for lights. training wheels motorboat operators, on the other hand, motor a
bit and stop, motor a bit and stop, stay stopped because it might rain or the
bread is stale or whatever.

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That sounds
an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles inside of
a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid you
were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to avoid, its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!

Lifelines
 

Yup. Sounds like he was lost.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?


actually, we had three, and a LORAN and a fine, fine sextant with tables
and
chronometer and radio for time ticks.

we weren't lost, and nobody but you has said we were.

and why, jeffies, to *you* keep talking about dirty pants when discussing
being
on the ocean at night in a flat calm?

the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.

Lifelines
 

sounds lost to me.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
no jeffies, it did not mean we were withing 100 feet of hitting something.
It
meant we hadn't yet seen a light we expected to see, and if we didn't see
it
****soon**** we would do the prudent thing and backtrack until we were
sure
the light was out or something. we found the light right where it was
expected.

go out there sometime jeffies and you will find out that one does indeed
watch
for lights. training wheels motorboat operators, on the other hand, motor
a
bit and stop, motor a bit and stop, stay stopped because it might rain or
the
bread is stale or whatever.

Right. You said "we were within 20 seconds of turning around". That
sounds
an
awful lot like you were lost. Especially since you can go 5 miles inside
of
a
light with 38 mile visibility. At 3 knots, that means you were afraid
you
were
within 100 feet of bumping into a "rock." Given that there are no
hazards,
other than Diamond Shoals, which is very well marked and easy to avoid,
its
sounds a lot like you were lost.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, the only one to use the word "lost" is you.

Lost at Hatteras with two GPS's! Good one jaxie!

Lifelines
 

Well... he was lost!

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
It still says nothing. Lots of people spent time at McMurdo that don't
know
squat about boats or navigation.

But whether he is an experienced mariner is not the point; regardless of
that,
its clear you learned nothing from him, and probably had no concept of
what he
was doing.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
we didn't discuss it much, but he did have a plaque in his home (end
point of
the voyage was the dock in front of his home) for his service at
MacMurdo
Station.

BTW "career merchant marine" tells us little. Was he deck or engine?
Officer
or
crew?

Shen

Lifelines
 

He would still be lost.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
We're laughing at your claim that all lights are marking rocks!!! You
must be
scared ****less of all navaids.

Perhaps you should take that Power Squadron course and learn how to read a
chart. But first, you should learn how a compass works.






"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
the lights are there for laughing at? I didn't know that. thanks shen
for
enlightening the world.

and the lights are there for what reason?



ROFL

Shen

Lifelines
 

Sounds lost to me. (Mind you now, this is a good thing.)

"Shen44" wrote in message
...
Subject: Lifelines
From: "Jeff Morris"

Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks. The only reason
someone
would claim there are rocks there is if they never were there at all. Of
course, its also possible you were hiding down below, scared ****less at
the
thought of passing Hatteras. Or maybe you were hanging over the side.
One
thing is for sure, you weren't navigating!


The other reason he might claim they are rocks, is much simpler .... he
doesn't
know how to read a chart (obviously).
You'll note that Jax only hires on as a crewmember for these trips and
it's
obvious that't all he's qualified for.

Shen

Lifelines
 

JAXAshby wrote:
we didn't discuss it much, but he did have a plaque in his home (end point of
the voyage was the dock in front of his home) for his service at MacMurdo
Station.


BTW "career merchant marine" tells us little. Was he deck or engine? Officer
or
crew?

Shen

Sounds to me like ole Jaxass has been caught "dreaming" again. What does
duty at MacMurdo have to do with a Merchant Marine career?

otn

Lifelines
 

JAXAshby wrote:
the lights are there for laughing at? I didn't know that. thanks shen for
enlightening the world.


and the lights are there for what reason?



ROFL

Shen

He's not the only one following this thread and laughing at you.

otn

Lifelines
 

otnmbrd wrote:

Sounds to me like ole Jaxass has been caught "dreaming" again. What does
duty at MacMurdo have to do with a Merchant Marine career?

What does Jax have to do with normal mental processes much less sailing?

Rick

Lifelines
 

As lost as Gaynzy in a whorehouse.

JAX

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Yup. Sounds like he was lost.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?


actually, we had three, and a LORAN and a fine, fine sextant with tables
and
chronometer and radio for time ticks.

we weren't lost, and nobody but you has said we were.

and why, jeffies, to *you* keep talking about dirty pants when discussing
being
on the ocean at night in a flat calm?

the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.

Lifelines
 

???

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
om...
As lost as Gaynzy in a whorehouse.

JAX

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Yup. Sounds like he was lost.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You had two GPS's on board and you were lost?


actually, we had three, and a LORAN and a fine, fine sextant with
tables
and
chronometer and radio for time ticks.

we weren't lost, and nobody but you has said we were.

and why, jeffies, to *you* keep talking about dirty pants when
discussing
being
on the ocean at night in a flat calm?

the possibility you were
changing your pants is looking stronger.

Lifelines
 

As lost as old Fart Tom at an AA meeting.

BB

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Yup. Sounds like he was lost.

Lifelines
 

As lost as scotty on a good quality boat.

RB


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Well... he was lost!

Lifelines
 

As lost as donil at a MENSA meeting.



This signature is now the dumbest power in the universe


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ...
Sounds lost to me. (Mind you now, this is a good thing.)

Lifelines
 

jeffies, what do you expect? you motor training wheels.


We're laughing at your claim that all lights are marking rocks!!! You must
be
scared ****less of all navaids.

Perhaps you should take that Power Squadron course and learn how to read a
chart. But first, you should learn how a compass works.






"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
the lights are there for laughing at? I didn't know that. thanks shen for
enlightening the world.

and the lights are there for what reason?



ROFL

Shen

Lifelines
 

He's not the only one following this thread and laughing at you.

otn

so, over the knee, are you saying I should be worried about what bay sailors
tied to the dock except on less than 7 knot days think?

Lifelines
 

It still says nothing. Lots of people spent time at McMurdo that don't know
squat about boats or navigation.

huh? a career merchant marine/ocean racer with decades of experience who has
spent enough time in MuMurdo Sound to have received a plaque for it knows from
nothing about boats or navigation?

jeffies, you drive a water tricycle. you can't find McMurdo on a map without
using google.com.

Lifelines
 

Sounds to me like ole Jaxass has been caught "dreaming" again. What does
duty at MacMurdo have to do with a Merchant Marine career?

otn

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