Lifelines
 

Dave, I'm ashamed of you. Bob is lots of things, but polite isn't one of
them.

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 20 Feb 2004 00:46:58 GMT, (Bobsprit) said:

A typo? He said LIFELINES, not JALIFELINES. The former is a error, the
latter a
typo.

Come now, Robert. "Typo" is a polite way of saying "****up." You're likely
to hurt somebody's feelings with your bluntness. And these days hurting
someone's feelings is a cardinal sin.


Dave
S/V Good Fortune
CS27

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Jon, you're talking to a buffoon that leaves fenders lying on deck. Don't
waste your time.

SV

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
And, I'm saying that relying on lifelines is foolhardy. One should rely
on oneself. That includes making sure the lifelines are in proper order.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Sorry, but how does one tell in advance on someone else's boat whether
or not a lifeline is "proper"?

I'm not talking about risks associated with "someone else's boat." Lots
of
people take risks and let their gear decay.
I'm talking about the lifelines on my last two boats, which were/are
sound.

RB

Lifelines
 

Then why don't you ask them and leave us alone?

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Nobody has "pulled off" the plastic. You have to get new lifelines made
that
way.

Not correct. I know of several boats where they simply removed the
covering.

RB

Lifelines
 

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, it means you didn't understand the context of the sentence,
therefore
the substitution of one letter for another and the elimination of a
third
letter in a message of maybe ninety letters has left you completely
baffled.



Rubbish!


May be, but it's classic Jax.

Lifelines
 

Oh yeah, I forgot... the "safety conscious" buffoon that is.

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Jon, you're talking to a buffoon that leaves fenders lying on deck. Don't
waste your time.

SV

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
And, I'm saying that relying on lifelines is foolhardy. One should rely
on oneself. That includes making sure the lifelines are in proper order.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Sorry, but how does one tell in advance on someone else's boat whether
or not a lifeline is "proper"?

I'm not talking about risks associated with "someone else's boat."
Lots
of
people take risks and let their gear decay.
I'm talking about the lifelines on my last two boats, which were/are
sound.

RB

Lifelines
 

Bob, you miss a very important point. Lifelines won't keep you attached to
your boat. A jackline, tether and harness WILL. Lifelines aren't designed to
keep you attached to your boat. Jacklines, tethers and harnesses are. Maybe
the usage thing is bothering you. You said lifelines are "important" bits of
safety equipment, I disagreed and still do with the word "important". I
can't think of a real good example, but I'll try this. If you were to go
offshore, a liferaft would be an "important" piece of safety equipment, an
inflatable dinghy would not.
John Cairns
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Bottom line, it is a serious mistake to rely
on lifelines to keep you on a sailboat, even in moderate conditions. If
lifelines were an important safety feature there wouldn't be such a thing
as
jacklines.

By that measure, if jacklines were an important safety feature there
wouldn't
be such a think as lifelines...or flare guns for that matter.
All safety gear works together and ALL of it is VERY important.

RB

Lifelines
 

Not correct. I know of several boats where they simply removed the
covering.

I would guess that's the way they do it in that ghetto marina you are in.


S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

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On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:23:30 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

And, you now claim that SS doesn't rust??

Mine don't.

"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:36:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

That's stupid. The plastic protects the sails from chafe and the
hands from fishhooks. The downside is that rust can develop
beneath the plastic which shortens the life of the lines, but then
you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. They're the grap of
last resort.

Rust? Mine are stainless steel, dumbass.




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Lifelines
 

But, most of us don't race offshore.And most of don't have boats equipped to
offshore specs. And, there was one recent example of a noted racer on the
East Coast, who got coshed on the head by a spinnaker pole, went overboard
and drowned, in spite of those all-important lifelines.There was talk
afterwards about requiring auto pfds but nothing mentioned about modifying
lifelines. I think the folks that write these regulations know that the
lifelines will only prevent someone from going over under optimum
conditions, a conscious, mobile person can grab something before they go.
http://www.sailing.org/offshore/2004...egulations.pdf

http://www.heathcote.co.za/archive/ssn155.htm
A link to the story, and again, in the aftermath, nothing about making
lifelines an "important" piece of mandatory safety equipment, just talk
about the pfd's, one other bit about mandating helmets. So again, I would
guess it would be how you define important. The regulations speak of
lifelines forming an "effectively continuous barrier around a working deck
for man overboard prevention" but I wouldn't stake my life on it. BTW, if
you read an earlier post I mentioned an incident last summer where I almost
got washed overboard, I ended up hanging over the side underneath the
intermediate lifeline with the water nearly up to my crotch. The stanchion
prevented me from going overboard because I grabbed it. If I hadn't been
able to grab it I probably would have gone overboard. And I doubt if Bob's
boat is built to those offshore specs either. It's all just semantics, I
reckon.
John Cairns
OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 22:22:10 -0500, "John Cairns"
scribbled thusly:

Bob, you miss a very important point. Lifelines won't keep you attached
to
your boat. A jackline, tether and harness WILL. Lifelines aren't designed
to
keep you attached to your boat. Jacklines, tethers and harnesses are.
Maybe
the usage thing is bothering you. You said lifelines are "important" bits
of
safety equipment, I disagreed and still do with the word "important". I
can't think of a real good example, but I'll try this. If you were to go
offshore, a liferaft would be an "important" piece of safety equipment,
an
inflatable dinghy would not.
John Cairns

Hmmm and if you were sailing on your local pond in conditions that did
not warrant wearing a harness, slipped and would have fallen over the
side without lifelines, would you then regard the lifelines as
"important" pieces of safety equipment.

Before you answer, note that a huge number of deaths from dropping
over the side are of unconscious crew who drown before retrieval and
that to race offshore you must have lifelines to the stage that their
construction is regulated.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Lifelines
 

Stainless will corrode in anaerobic environment. Stainless steel
lifelines+dirt+plastic cover+moisture=anaerobic environment.
http://bosunsupplies.com/Corrosion.cfm
Read the fourth paragraph. Might take longer in fresh water, but there it
is.
John Cairns
"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:23:30 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

And, you now claim that SS doesn't rust??

Mine don't.

"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:36:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

That's stupid. The plastic protects the sails from chafe and the
hands from fishhooks. The downside is that rust can develop
beneath the plastic which shortens the life of the lines, but then
you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. They're the grap of
last resort.

Rust? Mine are stainless steel, dumbass.




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Lifelines
 

I agree with this, well mostly. I'm not sure I agree with the blanket
statement
that *anything* that *may* prevent... is important. Lifelines should be part
of an integral system. Just as an Epirb is important it isn't necessarily
the
most important piece of equipment.

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:50:34 -0500, "John Cairns"
scribbled thusly:

But, most of us don't race offshore.And most of don't have boats equipped
to
offshore specs. And, there was one recent example of a noted racer on the
East Coast, who got coshed on the head by a spinnaker pole, went
overboard
and drowned, in spite of those all-important lifelines.

Sure, lifelines won't save you every time, nor will jacklines and
harness nor a liferaft.
BUT anything that may prevent you being lost at sea is an important
safety device.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Lifelines
 

Yours don't yet. Eventually, they will dumbass.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 16:23:30 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

And, you now claim that SS doesn't rust??

Mine don't.

"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:36:42 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

That's stupid. The plastic protects the sails from chafe and the
hands from fishhooks. The downside is that rust can develop
beneath the plastic which shortens the life of the lines, but then
you shouldn't be relying on them anyway. They're the grap of
last resort.

Rust? Mine are stainless steel, dumbass.




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Lifelines
 

BUT anything that may prevent you being lost at sea is an important
safety device.


When it saves you...it's important. Very good Ozzy. Even J. listed an instance
where he was rescued by his lifelines. They've caught me twice. Lifelines are
no less important than any other gear.
I'm out of this thread now as the resident trolls have entered and I've said my
piece. At this stage all that's left is for others to deny the obvious with no
substansive info and fall to insults.
Not interested.

RB

Lifelines
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:59:29 -0500, "John Cairns"
wrote this crap:

Stainless will corrode in anaerobic environment. Stainless steel
lifelines+dirt+plastic cover+moisture=anaerobic environment.

My stainless steel doesn't corrode. I wash my boat occasionally.




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Lifelines
 

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:04:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Yours don't yet. Eventually, they will dumbass.


Long AFTER I have sold it, dumbass.




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Lifelines
 

donnie, you too, eh?

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, it means you didn't understand the context of the sentence,
therefore
the substitution of one letter for another and the elimination of a third
letter in a message of maybe ninety letters has left you completely
baffled.



Rubbish!



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

racko-nos, go away.

I usually only think of irony in terms of truthful statements. You speak in
"ironic" terms of 20 ft. seas but you can't prove you've ever been offshore?
WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!! That is ironic. I, otoh, was offshore as recently as
last November and can prove it. In fact, you can't even prove you're more
than a figment of your own imagination, "Jax". BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
John Cairns
"JAXAshby" rose up on his hind legs and yipped
...
Racko-Nos, you missed the irony of the statement. I think _actual_
four-foot
waves would frighten you so much you could come back talking about seeing
20
foot waves.

As high as the freeboard?

Lifelines
 

I just have to laugh...

Boy, it can get real rough off Glen Cove, it's almost as stary as Port
Jefferson.

I lived under the Throgsneck Bridge for a while (the trade school)
before I got a license and have sailed the sound for a lot of years.

The stream can get rough (doesn't have to be), but the fact that he
feels that he should include it in the line with Glen Cove is real good.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Mariner, Licensed Marine, Congenital Sailor


JAXAshby wrote:
I have been up on the foredeck in 40+ knots of wind off Glen Cove, as well as
somewhere between Bermuda and Hatteras. I go up forward low and on my feet.


You've never been in "rough conditions."

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

So, when you go forward you crawl on your hands and knees?

In rough conditions I stay very low. One hand for me, one for the boat.

RB

Lifelines
 

mattie, squathead, you too are just too frikken stew ped (two words) to catch
the irony of the statement made to Racko-Nos Pam. The waves off Glen Cove
would be hard pressed to go much above 3-1/3 feet (fetch is too little), even
though the winds were 42 sustained, gusting to 50+.

you see, dum-dum, racko-nos pam was saying that no sailor on aol had ever seen
"rough" water, rough enough to be careful when going forward on a deck.

dum-dum, you also missed the mention of that bit of water between Hatteras and
Bermuda where the winds didn't get much above 40 something. the fetch is a bit
more there.

mattie dum-dum squathead, racko-nos was claiming to have a longer dick than
anyone here and you pulled yours out to measure. way to go, the laughs on you.

I just have to laugh...

Boy, it can get real rough off Glen Cove, it's almost as stary as Port
Jefferson.

I lived under the Throgsneck Bridge for a while (the trade school)
before I got a license and have sailed the sound for a lot of years.

The stream can get rough (doesn't have to be), but the fact that he
feels that he should include it in the line with Glen Cove is real good.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Mariner, Licensed Marine, Congenital Sailor


JAXAshby wrote:
I have been up on the foredeck in 40+ knots of wind off Glen Cove, as well
as
somewhere between Bermuda and Hatteras. I go up forward low and on my
feet.


You've never been in "rough conditions."

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...

So, when you go forward you crawl on your hands and knees?

In rough conditions I stay very low. One hand for me, one for the boat.

RB

Lifelines
 

Typical boober... soon as a disagreement comes up that he can't WIN,
he leaves.

Lifelines are not as important a piece of equipment than using your brain,
e.g., keeping deck clutter to a minimum, something boob can't seem to
do.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
BUT anything that may prevent you being lost at sea is an important
safety device.


When it saves you...it's important. Very good Ozzy. Even J. listed an
instance
where he was rescued by his lifelines. They've caught me twice. Lifelines
are
no less important than any other gear.
I'm out of this thread now as the resident trolls have entered and I've
said my
piece. At this stage all that's left is for others to deny the obvious
with no
substansive info and fall to insults.
Not interested.

RB

Lifelines
 

Hahahahahah!!!

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:50:34 -0500, "John Cairns"

wrote:

But, most of us don't race offshore.And most of don't have boats equipped
to
offshore specs. And, there was one recent example of a noted racer on the
East Coast, who got coshed on the head by a spinnaker pole, went
overboard
and drowned, in spite of those all-important lifelines.

He was OUTSIDE the lifelines when he fell in.

There was talk
afterwards about requiring auto pfds but nothing mentioned about
modifying
lifelines.

Which makes perfect sense if you know and understand the context.

BB

Lifelines
 

So, what you're saying is that SS does corrode, but that
you just haven't experienced it yet. So, dumbass, it looks
like from your very own statement, you're wrong.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:04:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Yours don't yet. Eventually, they will dumbass.


Long AFTER I have sold it, dumbass.




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Lifelines
 

Lifelines are not as important a piece of equipment than using your brain


This was NEVER part of the debate, Jonathan.


RB

Lifelines
 

Yes, actually it was. Lifelines are not essential equipment; however, one's
brain is.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Lifelines are not as important a piece of equipment than using your
brain


This was NEVER part of the debate, Jonathan.


RB

Lifelines
 

Billy, billy. I know you have experience without your brain,
but the rest of us will just have to make do with one.

wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 11:30:59 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

Yes, actually it was. Lifelines are not essential equipment; however,
one's
brain is.


Not in your case, apparently.

BB


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Lifelines are not as important a piece of equipment than using your
brain


This was NEVER part of the debate, Jonathan.


RB

Lifelines
 

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2. You
exist as anything more than some lacking any imagination whatsoever. BTW,
all this talk about measuring dicks might lead someone to believe that
you're closeted. You might be happier if you came out, some folks might give
you grief, but that's their problem. BTW, again, Matt probably has more
experience than anyone else I've encountered in this ng., period. I would
say you were stupid, but no one can possibly be that stupid, so the only
thing that I can conclude is that you need professional help.
John Cairns (heh, a real name)
"JAXAshby" raved
...
snipped all the barely coherent rants

Lifelines
 

On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:27:35 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

So, what you're saying is that SS does corrode, but that
you just haven't experienced it yet. So, dumbass, it looks
like from your very own statement, you're wrong.

My stainless steel might corrode about a thousand years after I've
sold it, top-posting dumbass.


"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:04:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Yours don't yet. Eventually, they will dumbass.


Long AFTER I have sold it, dumbass.




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Lifelines
 

Only 1000 years bottom boy? Even with your sarcasm
you're wrong.

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 20 Feb 2004 10:27:35 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

So, what you're saying is that SS does corrode, but that
you just haven't experienced it yet. So, dumbass, it looks
like from your very own statement, you're wrong.

My stainless steel might corrode about a thousand years after I've
sold it, top-posting dumbass.


"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 19 Feb 2004 23:04:39 -0800, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

Yours don't yet. Eventually, they will dumbass.


Long AFTER I have sold it, dumbass.




This signature is now the ultimate power in the universe




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Lifelines
 

http://www.7knots.com/cgi-bin/list_sailor.pl?view=2196

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2. You
exist as anything more than some lacking any imagination whatsoever. BTW,
all this talk about measuring dicks might lead someone to believe that
you're closeted. You might be happier if you came out, some folks might give
you grief, but that's their problem. BTW, again, Matt probably has more
experience than anyone else I've encountered in this ng., period. I would
say you were stupid, but no one can possibly be that stupid, so the only
thing that I can conclude is that you need professional help.
John Cairns (heh, a real name)
"JAXAshby" raved
incoherentlynews:20040220131243.29724.00000082@ mb-m21.aol.com...
snipped all the barely coherent rants

Lifelines
 

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2.


What diff does it make if he's offshore or not. As far as I know, NO ONE here
has done any serious sailing-crossed oceans and such. Unless you have video of
your voyage, you can't prove a thing either. Still, many of the issues we
debate here can be discussed, even by an armchair sailor. I see no reason to
become nasty over an opinion, just because it fails to match your own.
Most of us are coastal sailors and some are on lakes. The idea that conditions
can't get bad on the LI sound or on lakes or anywhere is plain silly.

RB

Lifelines
 

Proves nothing... a bunch of words. I'm especially suspicious of the
"I tolerate everyone short term, and with a Will Rogers-like smile"
line. That's obviously bs, since you're so obviously thin-skinned
here.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
http://www.7knots.com/cgi-bin/list_sailor.pl?view=2196

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2.
You
exist as anything more than some lacking any imagination whatsoever. BTW,
all this talk about measuring dicks might lead someone to believe that
you're closeted. You might be happier if you came out, some folks might
give
you grief, but that's their problem. BTW, again, Matt probably has more
experience than anyone else I've encountered in this ng., period. I would
say you were stupid, but no one can possibly be that stupid, so the only
thing that I can conclude is that you need professional help.
John Cairns (heh, a real name)
"JAXAshby" raved
incoherentlynews:20040220131243.29724.00000082@ mb-m21.aol.com...
snipped all the barely coherent rants

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jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

:-)


from: "Jonathan Ganz"

Proves nothing... a bunch of words. I'm especially suspicious of the
"I tolerate everyone short term, and with a Will Rogers-like smile"
line. That's obviously bs, since you're so obviously thin-skinned
here.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
http://www.7knots.com/cgi-bin/list_sailor.pl?view=2196

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2.
You
exist as anything more than some lacking any imagination whatsoever. BTW,
all this talk about measuring dicks might lead someone to believe that
you're closeted. You might be happier if you came out, some folks might
give
you grief, but that's their problem. BTW, again, Matt probably has more
experience than anyone else I've encountered in this ng., period. I would
say you were stupid, but no one can possibly be that stupid, so the only
thing that I can conclude is that you need professional help.
John Cairns (heh, a real name)
"JAXAshby" raved
incoherentlynews:20040220131243.29724.00000082@ mb-m21.aol.com...
snipped all the barely coherent rants

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You should NOT. We're talking about gear. Don't rely on them.
As you said, the stanchion can fail. That's part of the lifeline system.
Don't rely on them.

Bob isn't as stupid as you think.

I'm sure that he is sensible enough to realise that his stanchions were not
designed to take the weight of a person of his stature!



Regards


Donal
--

Lifelines
 

I think you need to get different meds. You're out of control.
This is too ludicrous to respond to... I think it's time to plonk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in
combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

:-)


from: "Jonathan Ganz"

Proves nothing... a bunch of words. I'm especially suspicious of the
"I tolerate everyone short term, and with a Will Rogers-like smile"
line. That's obviously bs, since you're so obviously thin-skinned
here.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
http://www.7knots.com/cgi-bin/list_sailor.pl?view=2196

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore
2.
You
exist as anything more than some lacking any imagination whatsoever.
BTW,
all this talk about measuring dicks might lead someone to believe that
you're closeted. You might be happier if you came out, some folks
might
give
you grief, but that's their problem. BTW, again, Matt probably has
more
experience than anyone else I've encountered in this ng., period. I
would
say you were stupid, but no one can possibly be that stupid, so the
only
thing that I can conclude is that you need professional help.
John Cairns (heh, a real name)
"JAXAshby" raved
incoherentlynews:20040220131243.29724.00000082@ mb-m21.aol.com...
snipped all the barely coherent rants

Lifelines
 

Yeah, as far as you know... which isn't very far.

You're the WINNER when it comes to getting nasty for no
reason, so go f*ck yourself. You were at least tolerable
when you were a blatant asshole. Now, you're just a wimp.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2.



What diff does it make if he's offshore or not. As far as I know, NO ONE
here
has done any serious sailing-crossed oceans and such. Unless you have
video of
your voyage, you can't prove a thing either. Still, many of the issues we
debate here can be discussed, even by an armchair sailor. I see no reason
to
become nasty over an opinion, just because it fails to match your own.
Most of us are coastal sailors and some are on lakes. The idea that
conditions
can't get bad on the LI sound or on lakes or anywhere is plain silly.

RB

Lifelines
 

I take it the answer is, "None".


From: "Jonathan Ganz"


I think you need to get different meds. You're out of control.
This is too ludicrous to respond to... I think it's time to plonk.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in
combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

:-)


from: "Jonathan Ganz"

Proves nothing... a bunch of words. I'm especially suspicious of the
"I tolerate everyone short term, and with a Will Rogers-like smile"
line. That's obviously bs, since you're so obviously thin-skinned
here.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
http://www.7knots.com/cgi-bin/list_sailor.pl?view=2196

You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore
2.
You
exist as anything more than some lacking any imagination whatsoever.
BTW,
all this talk about measuring dicks might lead someone to believe that
you're closeted. You might be happier if you came out, some folks
might
give
you grief, but that's their problem. BTW, again, Matt probably has
more
experience than anyone else I've encountered in this ng., period. I
would
say you were stupid, but no one can possibly be that stupid, so the
only
thing that I can conclude is that you need professional help.
John Cairns (heh, a real name)
"JAXAshby" raved
incoherentlynews:20040220131243.29724.00000082@ mb-m21.aol.com...
snipped all the barely coherent rants

Lifelines
 

do you suppose jonny's favorite porn site cut him off?


From: "Jonathan Ganz"


Yeah, as far as you know... which isn't very far.

You're the WINNER when it comes to getting nasty for no
reason, so go f*ck yourself. You were at least tolerable
when you were a blatant asshole. Now, you're just a wimp.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You still haven't offered any proof that 1. You've ever been offshore 2.



What diff does it make if he's offshore or not. As far as I know, NO ONE
here
has done any serious sailing-crossed oceans and such. Unless you have
video of
your voyage, you can't prove a thing either. Still, many of the issues we
debate here can be discussed, even by an armchair sailor. I see no reason
to
become nasty over an opinion, just because it fails to match your own.
Most of us are coastal sailors and some are on lakes. The idea that
conditions
can't get bad on the LI sound or on lakes or anywhere is plain silly.

RB

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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snip
the fetch is a bit
more there.

You've learned about fetch??? Congrats. I'm really impressed. I seem
to remember that the last time that we discussed fetch, you got a bit
upset.


Soon, you'll be able to find the Gulf Stream.



Regards


Donal
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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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donnie, you too, eh?

Yeah! I'm afraid that now, I too, know that you are a babbling fool.


Regards


Donal
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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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jonny, it means you didn't understand the context of the sentence,
therefore
the substitution of one letter for another and the elimination of a
third
letter in a message of maybe ninety letters has left you completely
baffled.



Rubbish!



Regards


Donal
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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
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jonny, obviously you can't sail if you have never been under fire in
combat.

So, how many Purple Hearts do you have?

Ahhh ha ha ha hhhaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Now we have "Jax the war hero"!!!! Whatever next?



Regards


Donal
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