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jeffies, you are just to stupid to even talk with.

case in point:



Hey Jaxie, maybe I should repost where you claimed that the variation was
meaningless because you never bothered to use it. Or the time you claimed
"dip"
was a function of the compass, not of the Earth. How about when you insisted
that gyrocompasses are incapable of aligning automatically?

But my favorite is:
"a compass never has told you anything other than which way is North and so
never was worth much as a "navigation" tool."


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup stups
who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of such.
dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my
"bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--

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Witty comeback there, jaxie! You're showing that real Mensa style!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you are just to stupid to even talk with.

case in point:



Hey Jaxie, maybe I should repost where you claimed that the variation was
meaningless because you never bothered to use it. Or the time you claimed
"dip"
was a function of the compass, not of the Earth. How about when you insisted
that gyrocompasses are incapable of aligning automatically?

But my favorite is:
"a compass never has told you anything other than which way is North and so
never was worth much as a "navigation" tool."


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup stups
who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of such.
dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my
"bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--

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It's the point on the top of you're head that he's talking about.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, you are just to stupid to even talk with.

case in point:



Hey Jaxie, maybe I should repost where you claimed that the variation was
meaningless because you never bothered to use it. Or the time you
claimed
"dip"
was a function of the compass, not of the Earth. How about when you
insisted
that gyrocompasses are incapable of aligning automatically?

But my favorite is:
"a compass never has told you anything other than which way is North and
so
never was worth much as a "navigation" tool."


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
oh, geesus. what a miserable world it is to have to deal with stup
stups
who
are totally ignorant as what a compass card is, and the meaning of
such.
dumb
dumb dumb.

ah... joonny? .... are you, ah, aware that a compass *points* in the
direction
your bow is *headed*

WRONG!!!!


My compass points North(magnetic), regardless of the direction that my
"bow
is headed".

What kind of compass do you have?



Regards


Donal
--

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olde fart, don't read this until tomorrow morning when you are sobered up a
bit.

We were *heading* 190* (that's south, olde fart) trying to skirt inside the
Gulf Stream when an eddy (the Gulf Stream has lots of eddies, olde fart, but we
didn't expect something like this) caught us and changed our COURSE to 90* even
as we maintained our *heading* of 190*. We -- tacked -- to head ++ west ++ to
get away from the eddy.

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

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Thom, you must remember, that Jax is an amateur when it comes to many
things, especially navigation. You must understand that when he makes a
statement that his "course" was 190 and upon encountering an eddy,
became 090 (numbers from memory) that his amateur status means that this
statement can be taken in a number of ways, but he is not aware of that
fact.
I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when
they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.
"Course" means many things, which are usually explained in the context
of how the term is used. In Jax's case, he is neither experienced nor
intelligent enough to realize this, and thus explain it in his post.
He also frequently uses this gambit to create a useless argument which
is really, nothing more than a "word game"

otn

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

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I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when
they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.

no kidding, otk? Is that what you believe? What did you do, read the post 18
times until you understood all the big words?

have you been tying one one for three days with olde fart and are just now
coming around?

otnmbrd
Date: 2/27/2004 8:49 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: .net

Thom, you must remember, that Jax is an amateur when it comes to many
things, especially navigation. You must understand that when he makes a
statement that his "course" was 190 and upon encountering an eddy,
became 090 (numbers from memory) that his amateur status means that this
statement can be taken in a number of ways, but he is not aware of that
fact.
I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when
they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.
"Course" means many things, which are usually explained in the context
of how the term is used. In Jax's case, he is neither experienced nor
intelligent enough to realize this, and thus explain it in his post.
He also frequently uses this gambit to create a useless argument which
is really, nothing more than a "word game"

otn

Thom Stewart wrote:
Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

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If you headed west doesn't that put you right into the eddy? If it pushed you
east doesn't that mean it came from the west?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
olde fart, don't read this until tomorrow morning when you are sobered up a
bit.

We were *heading* 190* (that's south, olde fart) trying to skirt inside the
Gulf Stream when an eddy (the Gulf Stream has lots of eddies, olde fart, but
we
didn't expect something like this) caught us and changed our COURSE to 90*
even
as we maintained our *heading* of 190*. We -- tacked -- to head ++ west ++ to
get away from the eddy.

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

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the Gulf Stream causing the eddy was to the east. so we headed west to get out
of the eddy.

If you headed west doesn't that put you right into the eddy? If it pushed
you
east doesn't that mean it came from the west?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
olde fart, don't read this until tomorrow morning when you are sobered up a
bit.

We were *heading* 190* (that's south, olde fart) trying to skirt inside the
Gulf Stream when an eddy (the Gulf Stream has lots of eddies, olde fart,
but
we
didn't expect something like this) caught us and changed our COURSE to 90*
even
as we maintained our *heading* of 190*. We -- tacked -- to head ++ west ++
to
get away from the eddy.

Jax,

Are you trying to say Drift?

Now lets recap a bit. You stated that you were head south, west of the
Gulf Stream following the shelve line. Your compress was What?

Your course change from 90 degrees to a 190 degrees in a eddy? Now was
this Eddy from the Gulf Stream?

Sounds strange. If you were heading South, what were you doing on a 90
degree course? That easting.

If you were drifting 190 degrees you were finally going South! Why did
you tack?

If you were driven South by a Eddy of the Gulf Stream, Where the hell in
the Atlantic were you that the Gulf Stream was flowing SOUTH?

Jax, even if it is only in your mind, Do yourself a favor and dream of
something that doesn't involves the Gulf Stream. You can't get the
"Stream" to go South. You can't go South on a course of 90 degrees!

You sure do get caught in some mighty tall tails (WHOOPER) when you
start LYING about your experiences in the Gulf Stream. We can put this
one with your other time you had the Gulf Stream flowing SOUTH.

How do you ever expect sailors to believe such BS?

Ole Thom

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JAXAshby wrote:
I believe he is trying to say that his CMG was originally 190, but when

they hit the eddy, it became 090, not, that his compass heading went
from 190 to 090.

no kidding, otk? Is that what you believe? What did you do, read the post 18
times until you understood all the big words?

have you been tying one one for three days with olde fart and are just now
coming around?

ROFLMAO I only needed to read the post once, to realize that, typically,
you, being the rank amateur you are, would not know enough to clarify
what you were trying to say, and would not realize (mainly because you
are extremely stupid .... no matter what your IQ scores) that what you
had said could be interpreted in a number of ways.
As I've said before and will continue to say .... you're a rank amateur
with only basic intelligence.............................. I still
wouldn't hire you as "BR".

otn

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you read it "only once" but it took you three days to begin to understand?

yeah, "only basic intelligence", as you put it.

ROFLMAO I only needed to read the post once, to realize that, typically,
you, being the rank amateur you are, would not know enough to clarify
what you were trying to say, and would not realize (mainly because you
are extremely stupid .... no matter what your IQ scores) that what you
had said could be interpreted in a number of ways.
As I've said before and will continue to say .... you're a rank amateur
with only basic intelligence.............................. I still
wouldn't hire you as "BR".

otn

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JAXAshby wrote:
you read it "only once" but it took you three days to begin to understand?

yeah, "only basic intelligence", as you put it.

ROFLMAO (Gawd, you are at least, always good for a laugh)

I understood the first day (Again, you're too stupid to realize that
possibility) .... I just didn't comment until now.

otn

BTW .... Don't waste anyone's time with a stupid reply ..... and it will
be stupid .......

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right.

I understood the first day (Again, you're too stupid to realize that
possibility) .... I just didn't comment until now.

otn

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yes jeffies, mine is different. It *ALWAYS* points to the bow.

JAX


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
My compass doesn't tell me my course, it tells me my heading. Is yours
different?

-jeff

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From:
Date: 2/28/2004 4:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

[ ]

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message om...
yes jeffies, mine is different. It *ALWAYS* points to the bow.

JAX


Must be that oversize steel anchor you carry.

BB

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bb, check the header. note the missing "h".

wrote in message
. com...
yes jeffies, mine is different. It *ALWAYS* points to the bow.

JAX


Must be that oversize steel anchor you carry.

BB

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message ...
From:
Date: 2/28/2004 4:52 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

[ ]


Cat got your tongue? or does Suzy?

BB

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message ...
bb, check the header. note the missing "h".


Missing "h"? WTF are you ranting about?

BB

Lifelines
 

here's your missing ''h''. Stick it up your arse!

JAX (the real deal)


"JAXAshby" wrote in message ...
bb, check the header. note the missing "h".

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The multiple personality disorder is pretty bad when you're talking to yourself!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
om...
here's your missing ''h''. Stick it up your arse!

JAX (the real deal)


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bb, check the header. note the missing "h".

Lifelines
 

Jax,

In your reply found in Jon's reply I believe of the 18 th. You say you
ducked into Port to miss the "Norther" in the Gulf Stream. Later on you
claim 100 miles off shore following the Continental Shelve.

Where were you when you "ducked into port?"

Also have to ask; why 100 miles off shore where the Gulf Stream had an
influence on you when your designation was in Florida. Those replies do
generate questions from an old man (Ole Fart) (Drunk) What ever.

Abuse accepted but answers still requested.

By the way is you check a Chart you will find that to be 200 hundred
miles off shore and be on the edge of the shelf you are in the Caribbean
and getting farther away form Florida. Why would you be that far off the
Coast when the Counter-current, flowing South is in closer; about 10
miles?

You can answer anyway you want this is my finally comment on "LIFELINE"
Topic is much to far removed.

Ole Thom

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jeff, it seems to be LaBomba182 who is playing the games.


The multiple personality disorder is pretty bad when you're talking to
yourself!


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
. com...
here's your missing ''h''. Stick it up your arse!

JAX (the real deal)


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
bb, check the header. note the missing "h".

Lifelines
 

C'mon Phony jax, get a frickin klew. Use that massive MENSA brain of yours.

JAX (the REAL Deal)



"JAXAshby" the PHONY wrote in message ...
jeff, it seems to be LaBomba182 who is playing the games.

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wrote in message
...
On Sat, 28 Feb 2004 00:21:39 -0000, "Donal" wrote:


I wonder how it feels to be publicly humiliated. How does it feel to be
the
only poster who is unaware that OT gave up alcohol some time ago?


It appears that you are wrong about Thom's drinking. He's extremely
disoriented,
in case you haven't noticed. It's pretty obvious.

You are a complete idiot. You've no idea how much entertainment that you
are providing us with.

You should really learn how to use Google!



Regards


Donal
--

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thom, I said we "would have" ducked into port had we been two days later
passing Cape Hatteras, as at the point there was an unexpected gale coming out
of Maine, with 50 foot waves expected in the Gulf Stream.

We actually lucked out enough to go through CH (or actually through the rocks
off the end of CH) in a near flat calm.

The Gulf Stream -- at that time anyway -- was running quite close to CH and we
were trying to avoid the Stream as best we could.

St Augustine, indeed Miami past which the Gulf Stream passes very closely) is
quite a bit west of CH.

The eddies of the Gulf Stream come and go, and move around even more than the
Stream does, which itself also moves around quite a bit. The boat owner did
not wish to pay for Jenn Clarke's prediction service. Indeed, other than
finding outselves in the Stream when we didn't want to be, and the weird eddy
that pushed us 100* off our heading, we didn't have any real problems with the
Gulf Stream.

Jax,

In your reply found in Jon's reply I believe of the 18 th. You say you
ducked into Port to miss the "Norther" in the Gulf Stream. Later on you
claim 100 miles off shore following the Continental Shelve.

Where were you when you "ducked into port?"

Also have to ask; why 100 miles off shore where the Gulf Stream had an
influence on you when your designation was in Florida. Those replies do
generate questions from an old man (Ole Fart) (Drunk) What ever.

Abuse accepted but answers still requested.

By the way is you check a Chart you will find that to be 200 hundred
miles off shore and be on the edge of the shelf you are in the Caribbean
and getting farther away form Florida. Why would you be that far off the
Coast when the Counter-current, flowing South is in closer; about 10
miles?

You can answer anyway you want this is my finally comment on "LIFELINE"
Topic is much to far removed.

Ole Thom

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Subject: Lifelines
From: (JAXAshby)
Date: 02/28/2004 07:09 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

right.

I understood the first day (Again, you're too stupid to realize that
possibility) .... I just didn't comment until now.

otn



....... And it WAS typically Jaxass stupid.

BTW, Jax, anyone running that far offshore, heading for St. Aug., is asking to
find the Gulf Stream (I'd bet most ship traffic [s-bound] was inshore of you.)
More than likely, you found the "stream", not an eddy (no way to know for sure
with the info you have supplied), considering your direction of set.

Shen

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labomba182 wrote:

[ ]

Lifelines
 

You've mentioned these rocks at Cape Hatteras before. Why aren't they shown on
any chart? All I've ever seen there are shoals, but no rocks. Are you sure you
were there?



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
thom, I said we "would have" ducked into port had we been two days later
passing Cape Hatteras, as at the point there was an unexpected gale coming out
of Maine, with 50 foot waves expected in the Gulf Stream.

We actually lucked out enough to go through CH (or actually through the rocks
off the end of CH) in a near flat calm.

The Gulf Stream -- at that time anyway -- was running quite close to CH and we
were trying to avoid the Stream as best we could.

St Augustine, indeed Miami past which the Gulf Stream passes very closely) is
quite a bit west of CH.

The eddies of the Gulf Stream come and go, and move around even more than the
Stream does, which itself also moves around quite a bit. The boat owner did
not wish to pay for Jenn Clarke's prediction service. Indeed, other than
finding outselves in the Stream when we didn't want to be, and the weird eddy
that pushed us 100* off our heading, we didn't have any real problems with the
Gulf Stream.

Jax,

In your reply found in Jon's reply I believe of the 18 th. You say you
ducked into Port to miss the "Norther" in the Gulf Stream. Later on you
claim 100 miles off shore following the Continental Shelve.

Where were you when you "ducked into port?"

Also have to ask; why 100 miles off shore where the Gulf Stream had an
influence on you when your designation was in Florida. Those replies do
generate questions from an old man (Ole Fart) (Drunk) What ever.

Abuse accepted but answers still requested.

By the way is you check a Chart you will find that to be 200 hundred
miles off shore and be on the edge of the shelf you are in the Caribbean
and getting farther away form Florida. Why would you be that far off the
Coast when the Counter-current, flowing South is in closer; about 10
miles?

You can answer anyway you want this is my finally comment on "LIFELINE"
Topic is much to far removed.

Ole Thom

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no kidding?

actually, looks like a chickensquat squathead to me. a little boy angry that
98% of men don't want any man -- let alone him -- and most of the last 2%
wouldn't do him on a dare, even with money involved.


bb, check the header. note the missing "h".


You need to check some headers yourself. That wasn't me.

BB

wrote in message
e.com...
yes jeffies, mine is different. It *ALWAYS* points to the bow.

JAX


Must be that oversize steel anchor you carry.

BB















(JAXAshby) wrote:

bb, check the header. note the missing "h".


You need to check some headers yourself. That wasn't me.

BB

wrote in message
e.com...
yes jeffies, mine is different. It *ALWAYS* points to the bow.

JAX


Must be that oversize steel anchor you carry.

BB

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shen? have you *ever* in your life seen a chart, even once?


obviously not.

right.

I understood the first day (Again, you're too stupid to realize that
possibility) .... I just didn't comment until now.

otn



...... And it WAS typically Jaxass stupid.

BTW, Jax, anyone running that far offshore, heading for St. Aug., is asking
to
find the Gulf Stream (I'd bet most ship traffic [s-bound] was inshore of
you.)
More than likely, you found the "stream", not an eddy (no way to know for
sure
with the info you have supplied), considering your direction of set.

Shen

Lifelines
 

You've mentioned these rocks at Cape Hatteras before. Why aren't they shown
on
any chart?

they are, jeffies. you just gotta learn how or read English.

Lifelines
 

Well, here's one version of the chart - show me where there are rocks.

http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepag...tlontyp e=DMS

Here's a different chart; no rocks there either.
http://www.sv-loki.com/Hatteras.jpg


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You've mentioned these rocks at Cape Hatteras before. Why aren't they shown
on
any chart?

they are, jeffies. you just gotta learn how or read English.

Lifelines
 

Maybe he's thinking of Bird Island?

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Well, here's one version of the chart - show me where there are rocks.


http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepag...tlontyp e=DMS

Here's a different chart; no rocks there either.
http://www.sv-loki.com/Hatteras.jpg


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You've mentioned these rocks at Cape Hatteras before. Why aren't they
shown
on
any chart?

they are, jeffies. you just gotta learn how or read English.

Lifelines
 

No, Pamlico Sound can be a pain North to South unless you're shallow draft.
There's no sense in going inside at that point.

Jax is referring to Diamond Shoals which are easily avoided in good weather by
going outside of the lighthouse. There are no rocks in the area.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Maybe he's thinking of Bird Island?

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Well, here's one version of the chart - show me where there are rocks.



http://mapserver.maptech.com/homepag...tlontyp e=DMS

Here's a different chart; no rocks there either.
http://www.sv-loki.com/Hatteras.jpg


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
You've mentioned these rocks at Cape Hatteras before. Why aren't they
shown
on
any chart?

they are, jeffies. you just gotta learn how or read English.

Lifelines
 

see those markers and lights out there jeffie? dems tings ta hits.

Lifelines
 

Jax is referring to Diamond Shoals which are easily avoided in good weather
by
going outside of the lighthouse. There are no rocks in the area.


two things. a.) the markers are there to mark things you can hit, and b.) I
remember many, many more lights for two or three or four or more hours while we
were going through at night. I remember at one point we were within 20 seconds
of turning around because we couldn't see the next light, when I saw it,
followed by maybe 10 seconds later by the owner, who was a career merchant
marine and had a couple decades racing offshore.

jeffies, if you don't think there weren't things to hit and break up a boat
there, certainly the owner of the boat did. And avoiding the Gulf Stream to
the east was the reason we were in so close.

jeffies, guys in training wheels don't normally even think of rounding
Hatteras, predictions of a flat calm or not.

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Those may be "tings ta hits" but they are not rocks. The only reason someone
would claim there are rocks there is if they never were there at all. Of
course, its also possible you were hiding down below, scared ****less at the
thought of passing Hatteras. Or maybe you were hanging over the side. One
thing is for sure, you weren't navigating!




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
see those markers and lights out there jeffie? dems tings ta hits.

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