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One must realize, that most of his responses are designed to initiate a=20
negative response from someone, who has misread or misunderstood all of=20
the potential answers that could apply

So what you're saying is that Jax is just one big, multiple choice =
question where the answers are all right, all wrong, or in possible =
variation on a theme.
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katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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No. He's just an idiot.

"katysails" wrote in message
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otn indicated that:
One must realize, that most of his responses are designed to initiate a
negative response from someone, who has misread or misunderstood all of
the potential answers that could apply

So what you're saying is that Jax is just one big, multiple choice question
where the answers are all right, all wrong, or in possible variation on a
theme.
--
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

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Cheap Shot MC,

Maybe, just maybe, if that POS the Kiwi's used to defend the Am Cup had
a Canoe Stern it might has kept the stern wave out of the Cockpit (
Another cheap shot,sorry)

Doug, what makes the canoe stern stronger than a flat keel? The stern
stem? The longer keel? the bent over hanging shape? Is the strength
necessary? So many sailboats are built minus sterns. Are you sure the
strength holds up for Fibreglas? ( All leading questions)

I spoke to Pedersen about the Canoe Stern. He replied; "The only thing a
pointy stern is good for is going backwards!"

I spoke of Pooping and he was quite ready to point out on a 1/4 sea the
square stern was far better. He also pointed out most hulls with
"Hogging problems" were double enders.

Why don't both of YOUSE GUY ease up?

Ole Thom

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MC,

You reasoning is becoming very myopic.

A canoe stern is a very good and inexpensive way of increasing hull
length. increasing stern bouyancy, extending the length of the standing
rigging, increasing tracking ability, increasing the distance of the
helm thereby increasing cockpit space, easing helm pressure in a
following sea.

These are some of the thing all sailors know. Lifeboats, Rescue Vessels,
most work boats in rough work areas are double-ended. There is a reason
and you know the reason. I'm not sure of Jax but I know you do. Don't
act stupid to make a point

Give it up!

Ole Thom

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MC

Have you ever seen both "POOPED?"Which would you rather be in?

OT

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Worry about taking on water

Isn't that a "Benefit!"

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Jax,

A very stupid point connecting planks

They were building boats long before they had planks. Dug-out canoes
didn't need to connect planks. Reed boat didn't use planks. They did
have pointy ends or round.

Guys; See the big picture, not just your point of view

OT

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Doug, what makes the canoe stern stronger than a flat keel?

A single joint in most cases and no aggressive profile to a following sea. It's
inherently stronger both in design and by nature of it's function.

RB

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I spoke of Pooping and he was quite ready to point out on a 1/4 sea the
square stern was far better. He also pointed out most hulls with
"Hogging problems" were double enders.

A bad following sea can shove a square stern out of it's riding position and is
more likely to pitchpole.

RB

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More likely to pitch pole

Nutsy,
Do you have anything to back up a statement like that, other than what
you think your imaginary friend would say?
I'm asking YOU to prove that statement?

Ole Thom

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Doug,

Would you like a picture of my boat's keel and the modification to force
the vortex down to the wing where it is controlled and kept from
becoming a tip vortex?

Ole Thom

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If he was speaking of pooping then he was speaking of you! YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I spoke of Pooping and he was quite ready to point out on a 1/4 sea the
square stern was far better. He also pointed out most hulls with
"Hogging problems" were double enders.

A bad following sea can shove a square stern out of it's riding position
and is
more likely to pitchpole.

RB

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(JAXAshby) wrote
what a ****in' idgit you are.

Shen44 wrote:
.....
In truth, you may have a high IQ

Then again, maybe not.

DSK

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Thom Stewart wrote:
Cheap Shot MC,

Maybe, just maybe, if that POS the Kiwi's used to defend the Am Cup had
a Canoe Stern it might has kept the stern wave out of the Cockpit (
Another cheap shot,sorry)

That Kiwi loss may be what soured MC's grapes. He was full of brag &
bluster before the AmCup.

Doug, what makes the canoe stern stronger than a flat keel?

You mean stronger than a flat transom? The basic reason is that it is
closer to a triangle than a box. If you look at any high strength
structure, you'll see triangles... in bridges, cranes, etc etc. Each
side of a triangle supports the other two sides in either compression or
tension, whereas a square structure needs diagonal braces.

.....Is the strength
necessary?

Well, no. But stronger is better... all else being equal. Of course, it
never is equal. The loss of reserve bouyancy and the short steep run
(aft hull sections) of a canoe stern hurts a sailboat's performance much
more than the added strength helps (in other words, adding weight to
beef up a transom is considered better for most purposes).

....So many sailboats are built minus sterns. Are you sure the
strength holds up for Fibreglas? ( All leading questions)

Sure. It's inherent in the shape of the structure. It's like asking "Is
a triangle really stronger than a square?" However, with modern
materials, the added weight of building a transom strong enough (or an
open stern) is not difficult, nor is the weight penalty very much.

I spoke to Pedersen about the Canoe Stern. He replied; "The only thing a
pointy stern is good for is going backwards!"

heh heh he may be like a Ford guy answering a question about Chevys.

Seriously, to some extent he's right, but then a short anser ignores the
issues at hand.

I spoke of Pooping and he was quite ready to point out on a 1/4 sea the
square stern was far better. He also pointed out most hulls with
"Hogging problems" were double enders.

Probably due to age & construction method as much as anything else. I've
certainly seen a lot of boats with transoms (and counter sterns) that
had hogging problems.

Why don't both of YOUSE GUY ease up?

Sure... let the other guy go first ;)

DSK

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I am speechless at the rubbish he just posted that's all. I'll post a
better descripotion in another thread. Then you'll see that Dougs idea
of winglets inducing vortices at the fin trailing edge to 'counteract
it' is just more BS.

Some times even I can't stand to wade into DBS!

Cheers

Donal wrote:
"MC" wrote in message
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Good lord.

Very "Bobesque".

Offensive, and yet totally devoid of any real information.

Regards

Donal
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