"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Wrong. Read Rule 8 again and again and again.

(i) A vessel which, by any of these rules, is required
not to impede the passage or safe passage of . . .

Did you read the above? How come it says 'by any of these rule'
instead of 'by Rule 9'? If it only applied to Rule 9 it would
have mentioned only Rule 9 but instead it says by any of
these Rules and 'any of these Rules' means any of these
rules.

It doesn't get any clearer than that.

You're right, it doesn't get any clearer than that. "Shall not impede" is many a number
of times, but only in Rules 9 and 10. The words don't appear anywhere else in the
ColRegs. Those are the rules referred to by "any of these rules" in Rule 8(f). Its very
simple, Simon.

You're trying to claim that rule 8(f) has some application beyond clarifying the meaning
of "shall not impede" as it is used in Rules 9 and 10. It just isn't so. The rules mean
exactly what they say.


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-jeff
"Assumptions shall not be made on the basis of scanty information" ColRegs, Rule 7(c)

I disagree. If it only referred to two different rules
it would have listed the numbers of the rules.

Any of these rules means any of these rules and is
not limited to the two you mentioned.

Any of these rules clearly includes any of these rules
where the vessels shall not be impeded. This includes
any case where a vessel might be in a situation to
impede another. These situations arise all the time
in open water and are not restricted to narrow
channels, etc.

For example, in open water if Shen44's motor vessel
fails to give way as the rules mandate to my sailboat
and I have to slow down and stop or take evasive action
then Capt. Shenandoah has impeded my vessel. He is
violating Rule 8 (f) (i) (ii) (iii) even though we are
both operating in open waters.

S.Simon


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
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Wrong. Read Rule 8 again and again and again.

(i) A vessel which, by any of these rules, is required
not to impede the passage or safe passage of . . .

Did you read the above? How come it says 'by any of these rule'
instead of 'by Rule 9'? If it only applied to Rule 9 it would
have mentioned only Rule 9 but instead it says by any of
these Rules and 'any of these Rules' means any of these
rules.

It doesn't get any clearer than that.

You're right, it doesn't get any clearer than that. "Shall not impede" is many a number
of times, but only in Rules 9 and 10. The words don't appear anywhere else in the
ColRegs. Those are the rules referred to by "any of these rules" in Rule 8(f). Its very
simple, Simon.

You're trying to claim that rule 8(f) has some application beyond clarifying the meaning
of "shall not impede" as it is used in Rules 9 and 10. It just isn't so. The rules mean
exactly what they say.


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-jeff
"Assumptions shall not be made on the basis of scanty information" ColRegs, Rule 7(c)