Last Wensday night we were heading out thru the lake to sail in the
bay.

The local race was happening in the lake and the course was a triangle
with one leg next to the channel we were in. Just as we hit this leg
the race did as well.

One guy that was smarter than the rest jumped on our 3 foot wake and
surfed along with us at 8 knts. He left everyone else far behind and
won the race.

Was it cheating? Or was he just a better sailor?

Wish I heard all the protest at the bar that sponsers that race.

What do you think?

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Are you saying you blasted a race with a three foot wake? I doubt the discussion was
whether it was cheating to surf it!



"Joe" wrote in message
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Last Wensday night we were heading out thru the lake to sail in the
bay.

The local race was happening in the lake and the course was a triangle
with one leg next to the channel we were in. Just as we hit this leg
the race did as well.

One guy that was smarter than the rest jumped on our 3 foot wake and
surfed along with us at 8 knts. He left everyone else far behind and
won the race.

Was it cheating? Or was he just a better sailor?

Wish I heard all the protest at the bar that sponsers that race.

What do you think?

Joe
MSV RedCloud

"Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message ...
Are you saying you blasted a race with a three foot wake?

Greetings Jeff,

Yes I did, I could not beleive they set up the course so close to the
channel.

They have the whole lake, and if anyone was to blame for my wake
upsetting the race it was the morons that set up the course. I did
slow down but once that guy jump on my wake I shoveled in the coal and
he had a blast. He waved and thanked me.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


I doubt the discussion was
whether it was cheating to surf it!



"Joe" wrote in message
om...
Last Wensday night we were heading out thru the lake to sail in the
bay.

The local race was happening in the lake and the course was a triangle
with one leg next to the channel we were in. Just as we hit this leg
the race did as well.

One guy that was smarter than the rest jumped on our 3 foot wake and
surfed along with us at 8 knts. He left everyone else far behind and
won the race.

Was it cheating? Or was he just a better sailor?

Wish I heard all the protest at the bar that sponsers that race.

What do you think?

Joe
MSV RedCloud

I agree... what gives these racing bozos the right to assume they have
priority over cruising vessels because they have elected to plunk their
buoys where they deem fit. No race has priority over any other vessel using
the same waters. NONE! To hell with them!

I'll gladly head directly into an oncoming fleet of racers and refuse to
alter course just to suit their laylines. Courtesy is a two way street and
very little courtesy is shown by racing boats.... I feel no obligation to
assume burdened status because some weekend yahoos decide to test their
boats.

CM



"Joe" wrote in message
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| "Jeff Morris" jeffmo@NoSpam-sv-lokiDOTcom wrote in message
...
| Are you saying you blasted a race with a three foot wake?
|
| Greetings Jeff,
|
| Yes I did, I could not beleive they set up the course so close to the
| channel.
|
| They have the whole lake, and if anyone was to blame for my wake
| upsetting the race it was the morons that set up the course. I did
| slow down but once that guy jump on my wake I shoveled in the coal and
| he had a blast. He waved and thanked me.
|
| Joe
| MSV RedCloud
|
|
| I doubt the discussion was
| whether it was cheating to surf it!
|
|
|
| "Joe" wrote in message
| om...
| Last Wensday night we were heading out thru the lake to sail in the
| bay.
|
| The local race was happening in the lake and the course was a triangle
| with one leg next to the channel we were in. Just as we hit this leg
| the race did as well.
|
| One guy that was smarter than the rest jumped on our 3 foot wake and
| surfed along with us at 8 knts. He left everyone else far behind and
| won the race.
|
| Was it cheating? Or was he just a better sailor?
|
| Wish I heard all the protest at the bar that sponsers that race.
|
| What do you think?
|
| Joe
| MSV RedCloud

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 20:04:26 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote this crap:

I agree... what gives these racing bozos the right to assume they have
priority over cruising vessels because they have elected to plunk their
buoys where they deem fit. No race has priority over any other vessel using
the same waters. NONE! To hell with them!

I'll gladly head directly into an oncoming fleet of racers and refuse to
alter course just to suit their laylines. Courtesy is a two way street and
very little courtesy is shown by racing boats.... I feel no obligation to
assume burdened status because some weekend yahoos decide to test their
boats.

You do that to me, and you'll be picking lead out of your ass. Us
racers are very competative.


Hero@Horvath

I don't spend my money on food. I spend most of my money
on women, porn, booze, and recreation. The rest of it I just waste.

"Horvath" wrote in message

| You do that to me, and you'll be picking lead out of your ass. Us
| racers are very competative.

Horvath... that's an awful big boast from someone who sails a Hunter. If
your piece of flexible oil canning oversize Macgregor 26X ever hit my
boat... you would shatter and sink without leaving a dent on my steel
toerails.

The only way that piece of **** could even approach my fine vessel would be
on a bearing down course... cause it sails like it's got an anchor strapped
to it's scoop transom. Plastic crap of a boat that Hunter. I'd kick you ass
in a race anytime bucky!

CM

"Joe" wrote:
I did
slow down but once that guy jump on my wake I shoveled in the coal and
he had a blast. He waved and thanked me.


Since you put it that way, yes, it does sound like cheating!

I could not beleive they set up the course so close to the
channel.

On both Muskegon and White Lake up here they set up the courses across =
the channel on purpose to get the gain from the wind siphoning in or out =
of the channel...it's very deliberate....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"katysails" wrote in message ...
I could not beleive they set up the course so close to the
channel.

On both Muskegon and White Lake up here they set up the courses across
the channel on purpose to get the gain from the wind siphoning in or out
of the channel...it's very deliberate....


I do not have a problem with anyone racing in or across the channel.
What I do have a problem with is racers thinking they have the right
to control the channel, If they are going to race in a channel they
have to expect to share it and not to expect anyone to give way or cow
taw to them.

They can do as they please, but so will I.

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Was it cheating? Or was he just a better sailor?=20

Better sailor. He saw the advantage and took it. Winning is knowing =
what is to your advantage and what isn't. If it had been a natural wave =
that just happened to happen at that point, noone would think a thing =
about it.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein