Wrong. A gale is a gale is a gale.
It's English, man. Learn it.

Idiot! Perhaps you should attend some classes before you attempt any long
distance (15nM) sailing.

Right, cuz anyone who says "gale" had better be specific! Duh!

BWAHAHAHAHA!

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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So, do you now agree that an F6 is no more than a bit of good sailing?
Will you continue to describe such weather as a "storm"?

Again, failure to read and understand by donal. Reports of "storms" only
implied that they were close by.

Let me remind you of the stupid comment that started this discussion.

You wrote "Well, today I met Marc from alt.sailing.asa for a sail. Winds
were challenging
to say the least, blowing 20-25 and gusting well above 30 to perhaps 35. "

**challenging to say the least**. It was an F5/6.

Do you still want to admit that you find such conditions "challemging"?



Regards

Donal
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Let me remind you of the stupid comment that started this discussion.

You wrote "Well, today I met Marc from alt.sailing.asa for a sail. Winds
were challenging
to say the least, blowing 20-25 and gusting well above 30 to perhaps 35. "

Winds to and above 30 knots are challenging. Yes, I stand by that comment. I've
never heard otherwise..or read otherwise.

RB

Again, failure to read and understand by donal. Reports of "storms" only
implied that they were close by.

Let me remind you of the stupid comment that started this discussion.

So why are you talking about "storms" Donal?
Caught again!

Bwahahahaha!

RB

Nice of you to finally admit it. Try getting some sailing instruction and
those sub-30k winds may not be so challenging.
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Steve
S/V Pony Express

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...


Winds to and above 30 knots are challenging. Yes, I stand by that comment.
I've
never heard otherwise..or read otherwise.

RB

Try getting some sailing instruction and
those sub-30k winds may not be so challenging.

So you're saying that 25-30 knots of wind should not be called "challenging?"
Just want to know, cuz every sailing text seems to agree with me on the term.

RB

This is a silly argument, you sure pick odd things to take a stand on. Getting the
absolute most out of a boat can be challenging in any conditions - that's why there's only
one winner in most races. But "20-25 and gusting" is usually not considered too much of a
challenge for an experienced sailor.

Having learned in small boats, and non-self-rescuing dinghies, I got to the point here I
wouldn't bother going out unless it was blowing 20+. A Tech Dinghy or InterClub, both
about 12 feet, no bailer, not rightable, is a serious challenge in 25 to 35 knots. We
usually wouldn't race in winds over 25, though that was driven more by the capsize rate.
Its hard to run a regatta when half the boats flip at the first gybe mark.

When you take these skills to larger boats, things scale up. Properly reefed and setup, a
larger boat should not be too much of a challenge in F6. My wife, who suffers a bit in
bouncy going, usually insists on taking the helm, and always did a quite credible job in
F6 even as a novice. I would usually go below and make believe I was reading. The only
time she asked for help in open water was when we tried to go upwind in near F7 conditions
with only a single reef - when gusts to 35+ hit, the main needed some easing.





"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Let me remind you of the stupid comment that started this discussion.

You wrote "Well, today I met Marc from alt.sailing.asa for a sail. Winds
were challenging
to say the least, blowing 20-25 and gusting well above 30 to perhaps 35. "

Winds to and above 30 knots are challenging. Yes, I stand by that comment. I've
never heard otherwise..or read otherwise.

RB

Try sailing in the LIS
this winter, and you'll gain some perspective. Be sure to take someone
who is experienced.

Billy, I kept my Catalina 27 in the water for two winters and even sailed her
in the snow!
I could sail circles around you with headsail alone. Wanna try it?

RB

This is a silly argument, you sure pick odd things to take a stand on. Getting
the
absolute most out of a boat can be challenging in any conditions - that's why
there's only
one winner in most races.

What're trying to do, Jeff??? Ruin every good run I have? These clowns don't
know what "challenging" means and I'm having fun! Of course! Sailing in five
knots is challenging. You have to wonder if Donal or Billy's command of the
language is anything like their sailing ability!

RB

Good post Jon,

It's a keeper! It made my favorite File. Thanks

"I'LL DRINK TO THAR!"

Ole Thom