It is a good thing for the ferry boat operater that the
sailboater was drunk or it would have been the ferry
boat operator who was at fault for hitting a sailboat.

The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat. I would like more information
on this collision because I suspect the sailboat was
motoring along on autopilot. The headline probably
should have read "Motorboats collide".


wrote in message ...
(watch the wrap)

http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/stat...nes-local-wire

Only if it is a cable ferry. In this case this was not the
case. The ferry is nothing but a motor boat and must
keep clear of a sailboat according to the COLREGS.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat.

Can't the Ferry "claim" limited steerage in certain cases?

RB

The sailboat is the stand-on vessel and is required
by the Rules to hold course and speed until and
unless it becomes apparent that the motor boat is
not taking the required action and a collision will
ensue unless the sailboats takes action to avoid the
collision. Then the sailboat can take such action
as it deems necessary to avoid the collision.


"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...
Only if it is a cable ferry. In this case this was not the
case. The ferry is nothing but a motor boat and must
keep clear of a sailboat according to the COLREGS.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat.

Can't the Ferry "claim" limited steerage in certain cases?

RB

Typically wrong response


Simple Simon wrote:

It is a good thing for the ferry boat operater that the
sailboater was drunk or it would have been the ferry
boat operator who was at fault for hitting a sailboat.

The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat. I would like more information
on this collision because I suspect the sailboat was
motoring along on autopilot. The headline probably
should have read "Motorboats collide".


wrote in message ...

(watch the wrap)

http://www.ctnow.com/news/local/stat...nes-local-wire

Ain'tja forgetting somethin?

otn

Simple Simon wrote:

The sailboat is the stand-on vessel and is required
by the Rules to hold course and speed until and
unless it becomes apparent that the motor boat is
not taking the required action and a collision will
ensue unless the sailboats takes action to avoid the
collision. Then the sailboat can take such action
as it deems necessary to avoid the collision.


"Simple Simon" wrote in message ...

Only if it is a cable ferry. In this case this was not the
case. The ferry is nothing but a motor boat and must
keep clear of a sailboat according to the COLREGS.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...

The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat.

Can't the Ferry "claim" limited steerage in certain cases?

RB

Subject: That was no rock that Bobadil struck!
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 10:49 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

It is a good thing for the ferry boat operater that the
sailboater was drunk or it would have been the ferry
boat operator who was at fault for hitting a sailboat.

The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat. I would like more information
on this collision because I suspect the sailboat was
motoring along on autopilot. The headline probably
should have read "Motorboats collide".


Basing your response based on scanty information, aren't you Neal? Were they in
open waters or in a channel?

Shen

Subject: That was no rock that Bobadil struck!
From: (Bobsprit)
Date: 08/04/2003 10:51 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The ferry is required by the COLREGS to keep
clear of a sailboat.

Can't the Ferry "claim" limited steerage in certain cases?

RB



Define "limited steerage"
The closest thing that would apply, is if he was in a narrow channel and could
expect (unless Neal was the operator) the sailboat , not to impede his passage
..... even then he's still bound by the rules.
Need more info to tell how badly the sailboat messed up or if it would have
been considered such if the operator was sober.

Shen

Subject: That was no rock that Bobadil struck!
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 11:01 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Only if it is a cable ferry. In this case this was not the
case. The ferry is nothing but a motor boat and must
keep clear of a sailboat according to the COLREGS.


Ole jump the gun Neal, strikes/screws up another response.

Subject: That was no rock that Bobadil struck!
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 11:03 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The sailboat is the stand-on vessel and is required
by the Rules to hold course and speed until and
unless it becomes apparent that the motor boat is
not taking the required action and a collision will
ensue unless the sailboats takes action to avoid the
collision. Then the sailboat can take such action
as it deems necessary to avoid the collision.


trying to fill in some gaps, I see

To those like you who have no imagination it is
not difficult to understand why you would say
something ignorant like Simon jumping the gun.

In a case like this there are more known facts
than you can imagine. Here are a few:

1) the newspaper got it wrong.
2) the newspaper is biased toward motor boats
3) the sailboat was probably motoring
4) the sailboat operator was probably not legally drunk.
5) the ferry was probably not operating in a narrow channel
5) the ferry was 'entering' the harbor which means it
was probably out of the marked channel already.
6) the sailboat was probably sailing around in the harbor
7) the ferry was probably in violation of the Rules
8) the sailboat was probably in violation of the Rules
9) the collision could have and should have been prevented
by the ferry giving way as required by the Rules.
10) I am correct more often than not.

S.Simon


"Shen44" wrote in message ...
Subject: That was no rock that Bobadil struck!
From: "Simple Simon"
Date: 08/04/2003 11:01 Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

Only if it is a cable ferry. In this case this was not the
case. The ferry is nothing but a motor boat and must
keep clear of a sailboat according to the COLREGS.


Ole jump the gun Neal, strikes/screws up another response.