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John : I tend to agree with a lot that you say. When you wrote :
I hesitate, however, to buy the notion that student equate instructor competence with the physical appearance of the boat they're paddling, or whether they're decked out in new high tech clothing. I think you're putting words in my mouth that were never there. Competence is either there or not. A certain degree or caring is only that and it means that some folks care about that others don't. The problem with some of the other posters here is that they were implying that they would judge an instructor on scratches rather than competence. In one case, one of the instructers was wearing an old sun faded PFD. Unlike the clean shaven pretty boy ski instructor image with a french accent, BTW a faded PFD is a sure sign that it should be replaced. PFD loose floatation over the years and by the time they're faded have generally lost enough to require a new one. Te "John Fereira" wrote in message .. . "Te Canaille" wrote in news:_U_xc.1$MO3.0@lakeread01: Good point John. Fact is the boat I want to repair has a similar history. Even though a hull gets scratched there's nothing wrong with wanting to re-do the exterior. It shows a certain degree of caring about one's gear and personal look. And for some that amount of degree is very low, for others very high. If I thought any of the scratches on the hull of my cedar strip boat significantly impaired performance or would compromise the integrity of the hull I'd bring my boat up from my friends shop and refinish it. As long as they're only cosmetic I'll leave it the shop where it's readily available for a paddle anytime I want. I'll probably use it for the lesson I'll probably help with this weekend. Students hear about 10% of what you say but absorb about 90% of what you are. Probably some truth in that. I hesitate, however, to buy the notion that student equate instructor competance with the physical appearance of the boat they're paddling, or whether they're decked out in new high tech clothing. In fact, my experience has had an opposite effect. I also have been a student many times in classes over the past few years. In one case, one of the instructers was wearing an old sun faded PFD. Unlike the clean shaven pretty boy ski instructor image with a french accent, he had a full beard and a british accent. I listened to everything he said though because of who he was. His name was Nigel Foster. In another lesson at a sea kayaking symposium a few years ago I took a refining your forward stroke class. After introductions we got into our boat and the instructor hopped into a loaner plastic boat (a Dagger). He attempted to put on the nylon spray skirt a couple of time before asking me to help put on the poorly fitting skirt. Once he started paddling though he danced with that kayak like nothing I had ever seen. The class was very well structured and my forward stroke improved significantly from that two hour lesson. I was paying close attention to what he said, as he has probably made more forward strokes than anyone in the world over the past five years, including the circumnavigation of all of the British isles, the South Island of New Zealand, and most recently Iceland. Chris Duff is a remarkable paddler, even is a cheap plastic boat with a poorly fitting spray skirt. |
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Te Canaille wrote: John : I tend to agree with a lot that you say. When you wrote : I hesitate, however, to buy the notion that student equate instructor competence with the physical appearance of the boat they're paddling, or whether they're decked out in new high tech clothing. I think you're putting words in my mouth that were never there. Competence is either there or not. A certain degree or caring is only that and it means that some folks care about that others don't. The problem with some of the other posters here is that they were implying that they would judge an instructor on scratches rather than competence. YOU are the one who said "a scratched hull is a sign of poor control"! In one case, one of the instructers was wearing an old sun faded PFD. Unlike the clean shaven pretty boy ski instructor image with a french accent, BTW a faded PFD is a sure sign that it should be replaced. PFD loose floatation over the years and by the time they're faded have generally lost enough to require a new one. More nonsense. Depending on the color (some fade faster than others) and the conditions it's used in (such as clear, tropical, lots of sun) a PFD can fade badly in a single season. It means nothing other than that the dye in the fabric has given up the ghost. Padding in a PFD doesn't degrade that quickly. It's quite obvious that a shiny image means a lot to you. It makes me wonder if you carry a mirror and a comb in the pockets of your PFD, instead of a VHF and flares. |
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"Te Canaille" wrote in news:Wx4yc.18$MO3.8@lakeread01:
John : I tend to agree with a lot that you say. When you wrote : I hesitate, however, to buy the notion that student equate instructor competence with the physical appearance of the boat they're paddling, or whether they're decked out in new high tech clothing. I think you're putting words in my mouth that were never there. I don't think so. If I recall the beginning of this thread correctly you were asking for information on repairing/replacing gel coat on a boat and that the primary reason was that the boat has to look good because it was going to be used for teaching. My impression of that was that you felt that an unscratched hull would instill an impression of confidence or professionalism in the students regarding the instructor. My contention (and Brian's, I believe) is that for many students it can have an opposite effect. For me, if an instructor is using equipment that appears to be well used, it indicates that the instructor likely has a lot of experience. Competence is either there or not. A certain degree or caring is only that and it means that some folks care about that others don't. I agree with that. The problem with some of the other posters here is that they were implying that they would judge an instructor on scratches rather than competence. In both cases, there is an implication that the students would have a first impression about the instructor based on the appearance of the equipment he/she is using. In one case, one of the instructers was wearing an old sun faded PFD. Unlike the clean shaven pretty boy ski instructor image with a french accent, BTW a faded PFD is a sure sign that it should be replaced. PFD loose floatation over the years and by the time they're faded have generally lost enough to require a new one. A friend of mine just sold an unused PFD that was beginning to fade. It had been sitting on the rack closest to the window. It was yellow and made of a fabric which seems prone to fading. My purple Serratus PFD doesn't appear to have faded much even though I've used it quite a bit for 4-5 years. An unfaded PDF that appears to be brand new is a sure sign that it has had little use, which to me, is an indication of less experience. |
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