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The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer
--
Greetings
Bouler (The Netherlands)

Very nice.

HF


On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:56:06 +0200, "Bouler"
wrote:


"HiFlyer" schreef in bericht
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The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

On Sun, 18 May 2008 16:56:06 +0200, "Bouler"
wrote:


"HiFlyer" schreef in bericht
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The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer
That's a nice ship.

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish Navy,
it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
...

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish Navy,
it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q
--
Greetings
Bouler (The Netherlands)

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin wrt
facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure by just
looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments might turn
out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was Ivory Soap Pure
sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I correctly nailed the same
thing in a number of your reposts for me when I first docked in this here
deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also have a
MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital and techie, so
I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place for the bad guys to
plant nasties in the videos, and do other not-so-nice things such as grap
IPs for future compromise attempts, maybe snag an E-mail addy from them
stupid enough to post in the clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an
order of magnitude higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if
one is running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht
...
Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish
Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard
training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin wrt
facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure by just
looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments might turn
out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was Ivory Soap Pure
sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I correctly nailed the same
thing in a number of your reposts for me when I first docked in this here
deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also have a
MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital and techie, so
I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place for the bad guys to
plant nasties in the videos, and do other not-so-nice things such as grap
IPs for future compromise attempts, maybe snag an E-mail addy from them
stupid enough to post in the clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an
order of magnitude higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if
one is running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.
--
Greetings
Bouler (The Netherlands)

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is
Spanish Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American
Coast Guard training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin
wrt facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure
by just looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments
might turn out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was
Ivory Soap Pure sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I
correctly nailed the same thing in a number of your reposts for me
when I first docked in this here deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also
have a MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital
and techie, so I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place
for the bad guys to plant nasties in the videos, and do other
not-so-nice things such as grap IPs for future compromise attempts,
maybe snag an E-mail addy from them stupid enough to post in the
clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an order of magnitude
higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if one is
running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.

One of the first good quotes I learned when I was doing a deep dive
trying to learn my new job as Engineering Information Security Manager
in the late summer of 1996 was this one:

"the only two types of people that've never been compromised are the
arrogant and the ignorant. Which are you? Both? And, maybe foolish as
well? My sister-in-law is so damn dumb as to actually giver here
PERSONAL E-mail to a Yahoo Groups "news group" for poodles! And, she
gets MORE than 250 E-mails a day! Dumb, dumb, dumb! Why so many? Well,
everybody build dist lists and adds people as they see interest and
pretty soon you're on dozens and dozens of people dist lists, often
multiple times as people are too lazy to remove the dups. 250/day?
WTF?! That's 250 times that the bad guys could - in your word - snag
her entire address book and 250 times the bad guys - or gals - could do
mischief to her PC. She claims that she knows all of them and they're
her friends. Poppycock!

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and time
LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching movies about
ships.

--
HP, aka Jerry

"If it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck"

In article ,
"HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is
Spanish Navy, it must be for the same purpose as the American
Coast Guard training true "tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.

She has indeed a steel hull like The Eagle.
Here a nice little movie of the Juan Sebastian Elcano on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn-O7piw4Q

As you know, Bouler, I'm not a fool and I don't lead with my chin
wrt facts or things I assert. So, I either can be reasonably sure
by just looking often, I can and do do some Googling if my comments
might turn out to be embarrassing if I'm really wrong. Thus, I was
Ivory Soap Pure sure that the Juan is steel-hulled, just as I
correctly nailed the same thing in a number of your reposts for me
when I first docked in this here deep water port.

As for YouTube, never touch the stuff! Most people know I have an
information security background that's pretty extensive and I also
have a MAJOR committment of time and energy to everything digital
and techie, so I already KNOW that YouTube is a really juicy place
for the bad guys to plant nasties in the videos, and do other
not-so-nice things such as grap IPs for future compromise attempts,
maybe snag an E-mail addy from them stupid enough to post in the
clear, etc. And, ALL of the dangers are an order of magnitude
higher - maybe 2 orders of magnitude or even more - if one is
running on ANY HTTP system vs. NNTP.

Well I liked the movie with information of the ship.

One of the first good quotes I learned when I was doing a deep dive
trying to learn my new job as Engineering Information Security Manager
in the late summer of 1996 was this one:

"the only two types of people that've never been compromised are the
arrogant and the ignorant. Which are you? Both? And, maybe foolish as
well? My sister-in-law is so damn dumb as to actually giver here
PERSONAL E-mail to a Yahoo Groups "news group" for poodles! And, she
gets MORE than 250 E-mails a day! Dumb, dumb, dumb! Why so many? Well,
everybody build dist lists and adds people as they see interest and
pretty soon you're on dozens and dozens of people dist lists, often
multiple times as people are too lazy to remove the dups. 250/day?
WTF?! That's 250 times that the bad guys could - in your word - snag
her entire address book and 250 times the bad guys - or gals - could do
mischief to her PC. She claims that she knows all of them and they're
her friends. Poppycock!

So, unless one practices safe sex on the Internet, "a fool and his
money AND time are soon parted."

Maybe you should spend more of your meager financial resources and time
LEARNING about ships instead of wasting it just watching movies about
ships.

This is really off the wall. Bouler courteously offered some nice
thoughts, and Hemi jumps all over him! What gives? What happened to
civility?

--
Bill Collins
For email, change "fake" to "earthlink"

I made severalcruises on EAGLE, the longest to Norway, England, Spain,
and Bermuda from New London.

HF




On Mon, 19 May 2008 02:11:52 GMT, "HEMI-Powered" wrote:

Bouler added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...

The Spanish tall ship, Juan Sebastiain Elcano, a four-masted, topsail
schooner is in Miami for an R&R (liberty) and ceremonial visit.

Note the provisions for square sails on the forward mast and
fore-n-aft sails on the other three.

They have rigged a canvas cover for the main and quarterdecks and have
had receptions on board each night. It is rumored that the King of
Spain (or maybe his son) was here one night.

Miami has a huge Spanish presence. Even the Cuban population has ties
to Spain. Many of the families in the 1960-62 flight from Castro's
rise to power had only been in Cuba since they left Spain to escape
the Civil War of the late 1930. They consider themselves more Spanish
than Cuban.

The pics are not as sharp as I'd like due to fires in the Everglades
which are sending smoke over the city. And, my daughter has
"borrowed" my best camera. I'll try again this afternoon with it.

Here he is at full sail HiFlyer

Looks like a 4-masted schooner with a metal hull. If it is Spanish Navy,
it must be for the same purpose as the American Coast Guard training true
"tall ship", the Eagle, pics attached.