Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not to? In
this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto industry. If the
auto companies fail, we're talking depression, not recession. All of
this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard a
navy ship?

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not to?
In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto industry. If
the auto companies fail, we're talking depression, not recession.
All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard a
navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not to?
In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto industry.
If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression, not
recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard a
navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my country.

"Boater" wrote in message
...


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of that,
join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my country.


Here we go again. I hate re-runs.

Eisboch

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not to?
In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto industry.
If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression, not
recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard
a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware
of your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not
to? In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto
industry. If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression,
not recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for
another handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop
repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard
a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware
of your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?


Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto
industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not
to? In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto
industry. If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression,
not recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for
another handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop
repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads
aboard a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware
of your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?


Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

I don't owe you an explanation.
I just can't understand you boasting about being a coward. And then
repeatedly reposting it. Get over it.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:10:54 -0500, Jim wrote:

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't
permanent. It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto
industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not
to? In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto
industry. If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression,
not recession. All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for
another handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop
repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads
aboard a navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware
of your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?


Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

I don't owe you an explanation.
I just can't understand you boasting about being a coward. And then
repeatedly reposting it. Get over it.

Must be something to it. He thought John Kerry was a big hero because he
supposedly 'earned' all those medals in Vietnam.

But I believe your measure of HK's character is spot on.
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't permanent.
It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto
industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.

Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not to?
In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto industry.
If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression, not recession.
All of this, could get real scary, real quick.

Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.


This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard a
navy ship?

We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.


No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.

I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware of
your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?


Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

Tell that to some who have served in Viet Nam or Iraq. Or any other ground
war.

D.Duck wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
wrote:
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:38:58 +0000, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:

On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:12:16 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
My hope is that the GM/Ford/Chrysler problems are resolved (if
resolvable) in bankruptcy, not throwing more tax payer dollars at
them.


Duck, I couldn't agree with you more. Chapter 11 isn't permanent.
It
allows for "reorganization" which is exactly what the auto
industry
needs to do right now. Revise business plans, products and
re-negotiate the union contracts under the watchful eye of a
bankruptcy
judge.

Handing them a pile of taxpayer money, calling it a government
"investment" just to keep them in business under their current
organizational structures won't do a damn thing.
I agree.
Tough call. I don't like these bailouts, but can we afford not to?
In this country, 1 in 10 jobs are connected to the auto industry.
If the auto companies fail, we're talking depression, not recession.
All of this, could get real scary, real quick.
Busting the unions should be a requisite part of any bailout plan.
Otherwise they will be back again in a few years looking for another
handout. It's time we earn from our mistakes and stop repeating them.

This from a guy whose career highlight was cleaning the heads aboard a
navy ship?
We used to send numb-nuts like you all over the ship looking for
replacements for burned out headlights.

No, you didn't. I wasn't dumb enough to get drafted, or, in lieu of
that, join up, so I could kill Asians who were not threatening my
country.
I don't think there is person reading this news group that isn't aware of
your cowardice. Why do you keep bringing it up?

Tell me, Jim...what sort of "bravery" is required to go off to a country
not threatening ours, and bomb, shoot up and otherwise destroy it?

Tell that to some who have served in Viet Nam or Iraq. Or any other ground
war.



I have some old buddies who were in Vietnam. Their thoughts are the same
as mine.