"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
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Gas your pigs up while you can. Not gonna tow Cruis'n Rulz! to the
pump. Gonna just get 5 gal at a time and fill her up at home. Don't
expect the prices will hold till next spring. If you wait, you might
just find it back to $4
JR


Nobody likes a spoilsport.

You're gonna give "O" some ideas of things to raise taxes on in order
to force you to
buy an oversized golf cart which is what he's gonna force Ford, GM and
Chrysler to build if they want a bailout.

Eisboch

Heaven forbid U.S. car makers produce mostly high quality, smaller,
fuel efficient cars that people want to buy and dump most of the
oversized, overpowered, mediocre quality V8's behemoths that get 13
mpg. Or less.


Again, you get it wrong. If the vast majority of people wanted to buy
smaller, fuel efficient cars,
Detroit would have been be turning them out by the millions for years.

That may change (and it should), but the point is .... Detroit builds
what people buy.

Eisboch






Apparently Detroit builds what people don't what to buy.

sigh

Correct. This year. Or, more accurately the past 6 months.

Eisboch


Look at the vehicles from Honda, Toyota and Nissan. They are big, just like
the Detroit iron. The Sequoia is as big as a full size Chevy Tahoe or
Expedition. I think the Nissan Titan looks bigger than my 3/4 T Chevy
diesel truck. The difference is about $39 an hour labor costs. About $80
for the Big 3 vs. $41 for the imports. Mostly in retiree and medical costs
for the retirees. The imports have not been here long enough to build up a
large retirement force. As well as the union negotiated pay for no work.
GM has about 12,000 on a job bank program. Full pay for 10 years of no
work. Let the Big 3 go bankrupt. Happens to lots of companies when they
fail to compete. They will not go away, someone else will take over. The
retirees will get screwed and may get less money, but they will just need to
share the wealth.

On Nov 12, 7:49*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

... *As well as the union negotiated pay for no work.

You blame unions for asking for it but not management for giving it?
Interesting.

"br" wrote in message
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On Nov 12, 7:49 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

... As well as the union negotiated pay for no work.

You blame unions for asking for it but not management for giving it?
Interesting.

Both are guilty. Let both fail.

"br" wrote in message
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On Nov 12, 7:49 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:

... As well as the union negotiated pay for no work.

You blame unions for asking for it but not management for giving it?
Interesting.


Management can't go on strike to twist arms.

Eisboch