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Each state has a proportional number of congressmen, TWO senators, but
only ONE Governor. It's the most powerful positon you can hold in any
state.

With perhaps New York being the exception.

Glenn D.

On Nov 5, 12:08*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:20 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum



wrote:
On Nov 5, 10:31*am, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:54:46 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:02:53 -0500, Boater
wrote:

If Obama is elected, he'll be the candidate in 2012, too. Hillary will,
as you say, remain in the Senate, probably advancing to Senate Majority
Leader, which would be terrific. I'd love to see that.

I'm hoping Palin is so mired in ethical problems, she'll remain stuck in
Alaska.

If we don't hear anything else I doubt the problems she had will have
any staying power at all. They pretty much disposed of trooper gate ,
she had the right to fire Monetary and since Wooden is still working
that is not going to be around much longer.
The travel evidence issues are trivial too. Someone will point out one
trip or two in that jet she sold would have cost more than all the
kiddie and per diem expenses combined. Bottom line is she was still a
lot cheaper to move around than her predecessor. That was always her
claim.

I bet she is still OK in Alaska and that is all it takes to be elected
senator

Why would she want to be demoted to Senator?

More leverage (see T. Stevens), a learning curve for 2012, Senator is
the stepping stone for the 21st C.

You need to go back to the woodshed. Being a Senator is a step DOWN
from being Governor, just as being a congressman is below the position
of senator.

Each state has a proportional number of congressmen, TWO senators, but
only ONE Governor. It's the most powerful positon you can hold in any
state.

I guess you think a tin pot governor that only some perverts had ever
heard of because she won a beauty contest 20 years ago is superior to
a guy who can knock out a request for a $400 million bridge to nowhere
or get pork payments for Alaskans at 10 times what any other state got
per capita?

wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:44 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
wrote:

On Nov 5, 12:08 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:20 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum



wrote:
On Nov 5, 10:31 am, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:54:46 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:02:53 -0500, Boater
wrote:
If Obama is elected, he'll be the candidate in 2012, too. Hillary will,
as you say, remain in the Senate, probably advancing to Senate Majority
Leader, which would be terrific. I'd love to see that.
I'm hoping Palin is so mired in ethical problems, she'll remain stuck in
Alaska.
If we don't hear anything else I doubt the problems she had will have
any staying power at all. They pretty much disposed of trooper gate ,
she had the right to fire Monetary and since Wooden is still working
that is not going to be around much longer.
The travel evidence issues are trivial too. Someone will point out one
trip or two in that jet she sold would have cost more than all the
kiddie and per diem expenses combined. Bottom line is she was still a
lot cheaper to move around than her predecessor. That was always her
claim.
I bet she is still OK in Alaska and that is all it takes to be elected
senator
Why would she want to be demoted to Senator?
More leverage (see T. Stevens), a learning curve for 2012, Senator is
the stepping stone for the 21st C.
You need to go back to the woodshed. Being a Senator is a step DOWN
from being Governor, just as being a congressman is below the position
of senator.

Each state has a proportional number of congressmen, TWO senators, but
only ONE Governor. It's the most powerful positon you can hold in any
state.
I guess you think a tin pot governor that only some perverts had ever
heard of because she won a beauty contest 20 years ago is superior to
a guy who can knock out a request for a $400 million bridge to nowhere
or get pork payments for Alaskans at 10 times what any other state got
per capita?


Grasshopper,

The position of a governor is higher, but of course like anything,
it's worthless in unskilled hands.

wax on, wax off!


Sarah seems a natural as a judge on a show like American Idol. She's
almost cute without being pretty, she's ditzy, she says outrageous
things that are unintentionally funny and she has a wild and crazy family.

On Nov 5, 1:56*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:44 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum

wrote:
Each state has a proportional number of congressmen, TWO senators, but
only ONE Governor. It's the most powerful positon you can hold in any
state.

I guess you think a tin pot governor that only some perverts had ever
heard of because she won a beauty contest 20 years ago is superior to
a guy who can knock out a request for a $400 million bridge to nowhere
or get pork payments for Alaskans at 10 times what any other state got
per capita?

It depends on whether you want money or power. A governor probably has
more power within their state than the president.
It is very recently that anyone even tried to check a governor's
power. 15 years ago Spitzer's hooker problems would have been swept
under the rug. I bet he could have survived if he was willing to fight
it anyway. It was Democrats who pushed him out.
Senators have a lot more rules to go by than governors

I think Alaska is not your average state, what little I knew about
before Sarah got tagged was verified by much of her talk and the stuff
printed in the Alaskan papers. Remember these people are no closer
than 300 miles from the next piece of the U.S. and more likely at 1000
miles. They think like they should be independent. Palin's remarks on
what happened to the Alaska Independence Party are revealing: "We made
them Republicans".

example of her status today.
http://www.adn.com/palin/story/579161.html

Tell Texans how much power their governor has.

On Nov 3, 12:19*pm, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage forPalinhere is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.

I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.

Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to runPalin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

You don't know the half

http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581

At the GOP convention in St. Paul, Palin was completely unfazed by the
boys' club fraternity she had just joined. One night, Steve Schmidt
and Mark Salter went to her hotel room to brief her. After a minute,
Palin sailed into the room wearing nothing but a towel, with another
on her wet hair. She told them to chat with her laconic husband, Todd.
"I'll be just a minute," she said.

and

NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end
department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While
publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at
what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said
that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the
convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential
nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and
accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman
Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the
clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got
the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the
clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week
when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent
"tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000
to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of
clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the
shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from
coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the
Republican Party audits its books.

A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put
anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers
put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty
and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who
made them than they do about Governor Palin."

McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides
kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes
because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak
along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but
campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage forPalinhere is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.
I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.
Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to runPalin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

You don't know the half

http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581

At the GOP convention in St. Paul, Palin was completely unfazed by the
boys' club fraternity she had just joined. One night, Steve Schmidt
and Mark Salter went to her hotel room to brief her. After a minute,
Palin sailed into the room wearing nothing but a towel, with another
on her wet hair. She told them to chat with her laconic husband, Todd.
"I'll be just a minute," she said.

and

NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end
department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While
publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at
what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said
that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the
convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential
nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and
accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman
Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the
clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got
the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the
clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week
when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent
"tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000
to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of
clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the
shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from
coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the
Republican Party audits its books.

A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put
anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers
put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty
and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who
made them than they do about Governor Palin."

McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides
kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes
because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak
along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but
campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.

Reflecting back, It seems like a pittance compare3d to the 3/4 of a
billion dollars Obama spent

Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Nov 3, 12:19 pm, Boater wrote:
Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Oct 31, 7:10 pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:39:49 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:
The advantage forPalinhere is that in 4 years this will all be old
news. I still say this was just a way to clean out her closet with
very little to lose. The odds of a republican winning the white house
were slim this time, no matter who they ran. She may be the most
vetted politician in the country right now and in the grand scheme of
things, they didn't find much. The real question will be in how she
acts from now on.
If I was her I would get a better grasp on how the federal government
works. Some of her "the VP runs the Senate" lines were just dumb.
Nothing would do that better than a job at the capitol.
There's a Senator up for election in 2010
I think there will be a vacancy as soon asStevens' appeals are
exhausted
You're assumingStevenswill win re-election.
I hope everyone is aware that the juror who was dismissed from Stevens
jury because of a dead father experienced a miracle and the father
didn't die. Instead the juror went to a horse race. American justice.
Was the horse wearing lipstick?

Gosh, gosh, gosh...I hope the Republicans are dumb enough to runPalin
at the top of their ticket in 2012. She will be an unmitigated disaster.

You don't know the half

http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581

At the GOP convention in St. Paul, Palin was completely unfazed by the
boys' club fraternity she had just joined. One night, Steve Schmidt
and Mark Salter went to her hotel room to brief her. After a minute,
Palin sailed into the room wearing nothing but a towel, with another
on her wet hair. She told them to chat with her laconic husband, Todd.
"I'll be just a minute," she said.

and

NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end
department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While
publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at
what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said
that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the
convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential
nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and
accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman
Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the
clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got
the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the
clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week
when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent
"tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000
to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of
clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the
shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from
coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the
Republican Party audits its books.

A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put
anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers
put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty
and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who
made them than they do about Governor Palin."

McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides
kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes
because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak
along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but
campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.


Priceless. Well, not really.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:56:44 -0500, Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:44 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum
wrote:

On Nov 5, 12:08 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 07:53:20 -0800 (PST), Jack Linthicum



wrote:
On Nov 5, 10:31 am, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:54:46 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:02:53 -0500, Boater
wrote:
If Obama is elected, he'll be the candidate in 2012, too. Hillary will,
as you say, remain in the Senate, probably advancing to Senate Majority
Leader, which would be terrific. I'd love to see that.
I'm hoping Palin is so mired in ethical problems, she'll remain stuck in
Alaska.
If we don't hear anything else I doubt the problems she had will have
any staying power at all. They pretty much disposed of trooper gate ,
she had the right to fire Monetary and since Wooden is still working
that is not going to be around much longer.
The travel evidence issues are trivial too. Someone will point out one
trip or two in that jet she sold would have cost more than all the
kiddie and per diem expenses combined. Bottom line is she was still a
lot cheaper to move around than her predecessor. That was always her
claim.
I bet she is still OK in Alaska and that is all it takes to be elected
senator
Why would she want to be demoted to Senator?
More leverage (see T. Stevens), a learning curve for 2012, Senator is
the stepping stone for the 21st C.
You need to go back to the woodshed. Being a Senator is a step DOWN
from being Governor, just as being a congressman is below the position
of senator.

Each state has a proportional number of congressmen, TWO senators, but
only ONE Governor. It's the most powerful positon you can hold in any
state.
I guess you think a tin pot governor that only some perverts had ever
heard of because she won a beauty contest 20 years ago is superior to
a guy who can knock out a request for a $400 million bridge to nowhere
or get pork payments for Alaskans at 10 times what any other state got
per capita?


Grasshopper,

The position of a governor is higher, but of course like anything,
it's worthless in unskilled hands.

wax on, wax off!


Sarah seems a natural as a judge on a show like American Idol. She's
almost cute without being pretty, she's ditzy, she says outrageous
things that are unintentionally funny and she has a wild and crazy family.

But she's not a narcissistic liar. That's a shame, huh Harry?
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

JohnH wrote:

Sarah seems a natural as a judge on a show like American Idol. She's
almost cute without being pretty, she's ditzy, she says outrageous
things that are unintentionally funny and she has a wild and crazy family.

But she's not a narcissistic liar. That's a shame, huh Harry?


Poor Herring. His home state went blue, and now he is, too.

Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina...there's still plenty of whiteys
there who think like you do, Herring.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:08:56 GMT, JohnH wrote:

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:56:44 -0500, Boater wrote:



Sarah seems a natural as a judge on a show like American Idol. She's
almost cute without being pretty, she's ditzy, she says outrageous
things that are unintentionally funny and she has a wild and crazy family.


But she's not a narcissistic liar.

Actually...