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I'm voting republican because...
On Sep 12, 5:58*pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:24:30 -0700, Roy Blankenship wrote: "greylock" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:16:05 -0500, "Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote: Well this is cruel but true- If the Republicans do win, She has a kid who is retarded so there will technically still be a retard in the White House. *Does the Vice-President live in the White House in your world? How interesting !!! And I wouldn't call it cruel - I'd call it - and you - *assinine. All the bull**** the neocons have thrown out? Give it a rest. McCain won't finish his term, and then she WILL be in the White House. Dan Quayle and Dick Cheney have proven the dangers of electing an administration with a terrible 2nd in command. *Palin is another bible-thumping crazymother****er (yeah, I know that's redundant) that risks our civli liberties. At least what is left of them. -- Regards, Curly Curly, Roy is saying Sarah Palin will be president and you give us Quayle and Cheney??? Do you ever read what it is you are replying to, or do you just unroll the dem talking points scroll and start posting? Neither Quayle nor Cheney have become president. And Hillary was more of a VP than Algore. |
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I'm voting republican because...
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:07:16 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
On Sep 12, 5:58*pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:24:30 -0700, Roy Blankenship wrote: "greylock" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:16:05 -0500, "Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote: Well this is cruel but true- If the Republicans do win, She has a kid who is retarded so there will technically still be a retard in the White House. *Does the Vice-President live in the White House in your world? How interesting !!! And I wouldn't call it cruel - I'd call it - and you - *assinine. All the bull**** the neocons have thrown out? Give it a rest. McCain won't finish his term, and then she WILL be in the White House. Dan Quayle and Dick Cheney have proven the dangers of electing an administration with a terrible 2nd in command. *Palin is another bible-thumping crazymother****er (yeah, I know that's redundant) that risks our civli liberties. At least what is left of them. -- Regards, Curly Curly, Roy is saying Sarah Palin will be president and you give us Quayle and Cheney??? Where is your cognitive disconnect? Cheney and Quayle were Vice Presidents of the United States, no? Cheney and Quayle were one heartbeat away from the Presidency, no? Cheney and Quayle were horrid examples of what "might have been" if they had ascended the throne, no? How does that differ in kind, not detail, from Sarah Palin ascending to the Presidency when/if McCain is elected and dies? Do you ever read what it is you are replying to, or do you just unroll the dem talking points scroll and start posting? "Phoney Outrage" is the term, you make **** up to get your panties in a bunch. Follow the logic, even though that appears difficult in your case. Neither Quayle nor Cheney have become president. And Hillary was more of a VP than Algore. Nor has Sarah Palin "become" president. Perhaps parallel thinking is difficult for you but not the rest of us. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bush, Plunderer In Chief ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 12:05:09 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:
---Snipped distractions and probably some more lies--- Hey Weasel! Where's that offered proof there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster? Still spouting the bull**** that the U.S. Economy is just peachy, you lying piece of ****... -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bush, Plunderer In Chief ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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On Sep 13, 4:01*pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:07:16 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote: On Sep 12, 5:58*pm, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:24:30 -0700, Roy Blankenship wrote: "greylock" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:16:05 -0500, "Rob Fraser" FraserRacing"AT"RobFraser.Net wrote: Well this is cruel but true- If the Republicans do win, She has a kid who is retarded so there will technically still be a retard in the White House. *Does the Vice-President live in the White House in your world? How interesting !!! And I wouldn't call it cruel - I'd call it - and you - *assinine. All the bull**** the neocons have thrown out? Give it a rest. McCain won't finish his term, and then she WILL be in the White House. Palin is another bible-thumping crazymother****er (yeah, I know that's redundant) that risks our civli liberties. At least what is left of them. -- Regards, Curly Curly, Roy is saying Sarah Palin will be president and you give us Quayle and Cheney??? Where is your cognitive disconnect? * I have none, but thanks for asking. Cheney and Quayle were Vice Presidents of the United States, no? * Correct. Cheney and Quayle were one heartbeat away from the Presidency, no? * Correct. Cheney and Quayle were horrid examples of what "might have been" if they had ascended the throne, no? No/Yes. I'd have preferred Cheney as president. I don't think about Quayle much. And you have changed the parameters of the above dialog. Neither Quayle nor Cheney were president nor occupied the White House. How does that differ in kind, not detail, from Sarah Palin ascending to the Presidency when/if McCain is elected and dies? Perhaps you want her "creature" billeted at the White House kennel? Do you ever read what it is you are replying to, or do you just unroll the dem talking points scroll and start posting? "Phoney Outrage" is the term, you make **** up to get your panties in a bunch. *Follow the logic, even though that appears difficult in your case. My underwear are just fine. As a matter of fact I just got some of those new Hanes that are quite comfy. They're probably not available in Argentina yet. Neither Quayle nor Cheney have become president. *And Hillary was more of a VP than Algore. Nor has Sarah Palin "become" president. * Correct. Curly: "Dan Quayle and Dick Cheney have proven the dangers of electing an administration with a terrible 2nd in command." So how does Cheney and Quayle having NOT been president PROVEN your perceived danger? Perhaps parallel thinking is difficult for you but not the rest of us. I'm not the one saying that something that didn't happen is PROOF that Sarah Palin is unfit to be president. You are. -- Regards, Curly ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*--- * * * * * * * * * * * *Bush, Plunderer In Chief ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*--- |
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"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
I'm voting republican because...
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:46:24 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:
"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. No, she's not. What foreign experience does Obama have? Irrelevant in the Sara Palin context. Of all the highly qualified people McCain could have had for the position he chose a right-wing wacko who thinks God commanded these wars, that library material must be censored, and that the earth was created 4,000 years ago. That is a very bad choice for John McCain and unacceptable for America. Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. Do not expect me to defend Barak Obama, ask someone who will vote for him. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? None, but that, too, is irrelevant to the qualifications, or lack of, of Sarah Palin. How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? That implies that Obama/Biden are worse than McCain/Palin. I will get into that useless, futile, arguement. Instead I will vote for a good candidate not a pawn of others. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:46:24 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? Widdle Curly lives in his moms basement, alone and amid trash and empty pizza boxes. He wont pay a dime for the Obamassiah's New and Improved! Great Society. On the other hand...he will happily spend every cent you own to pay for it. Along with enslaving your children and grand children. |
I'm voting republican because...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sep 15, 12:38*am, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? * Better than putting it in the hands of a foreigner. Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, There you go again with the "liar, liar, pants on fire" nonsense again. someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? You've described Obama. Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? You do like to make up lies, don't you? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? Did Obama serve? He has no "tactical" experience. He has no "strategic" experience. He has no foreign experience. Is he a pacifist? |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sep 15, 1:13*am, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:46:24 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? *Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*--- * * * * * *I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*--- .................................................. .............. * * * Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access * * * * * * athttp://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. No, she's not. She will be. What foreign experience does Obama have? Irrelevant in the Sara Palin context. * You demand foreign experience in a VP, but not in the President? You're an idiot. Of all the highly qualified people McCain could have had for the position he chose a right-wing wacko who thinks God commanded these wars, that library material must be censored, and that the earth was created 4,000 years ago. He did? Who might that be? Cites? That is a very bad choice for John McCain and unacceptable for America. What do you know of America? You speak ESL and live in Argentina. Some American you are. Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. *Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. Do not expect me to defend Barak Obama, ask someone who will vote for him.. By voting for a third party, you get Obama. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? None, but that, too, is irrelevant to the qualifications, or lack of, of Sarah Palin. So you have no wages taxable by the USA? Are you sure you're an American? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? That implies that Obama/Biden are worse than McCain/Palin. *I will get into that useless, futile, arguement. *Instead I will vote for a good candidate not a pawn of others. -- Regards, Curly You've got it all figured out and will vote for Obama via a surrogate. You're one smart feller. |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:47:47 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
On Sep 15, 1:13Â*am, Curly Surmudgeon wrote: On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:46:24 -0700, Calif Bill wrote: "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message ... On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Â*Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Â*--- Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â*I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------Â*--- .................................................. .............. Â* Â* * Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* athttp://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. No, she's not. She will be. What foreign experience does Obama have? Irrelevant in the Sara Palin context. Â* You demand foreign experience in a VP, Precisely. but not in the President? You're an idiot. Work on your reading comprehension. Of all the highly qualified people McCain could have had for the position he chose a right-wing wacko who thinks God commanded these wars, that library material must be censored, and that the earth was created 4,000 years ago. He did? Who might that be? Cites? Ron Paul. That is a very bad choice for John McCain and unacceptable for America. What do you know of America? You speak ESL and live in Argentina. Some American you are. You, who support Bush, are in no position to judge. Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Â*Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. Do not expect me to defend Barak Obama, ask someone who will vote for him. By voting for a third party, you get Obama. You just said that Sarah Palin will be the next VP, which is it? How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? None, but that, too, is irrelevant to the qualifications, or lack of, of Sarah Palin. So you have no wages taxable by the USA? Are you sure you're an American? I'm a true patriot, not a loyalist. How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? That implies that Obama/Biden are worse than McCain/Palin. Â*I will get into that useless, futile, arguement. Â*Instead I will vote for a good candidate not a pawn of others. -- Regards, Curly You've got it all figured out and will vote for Obama via a surrogate. And you're a loyalist voting for the status quo. You've sold your vote in a decidedly un-American manner thwarting the concept of the electoral system. You're one smart feller. Thank you. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:14:59 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:
Widdle Curly lives in his moms basement, alone and amid trash and empty pizza boxes. He wont pay a dime for the Obamassiah's New and Improved! Great Society. On the other hand...he will happily spend every cent you own to pay for it. Along with enslaving your children and grand children. Liar. YOu've claimed, five times, to have plonked me. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:41:14 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? * Better than putting it in the hands of a foreigner. Another lie, irrelevant, and the old "lesser of two evils" argument that got us in this mess to begin with. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ .................................................. ............... Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- |
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On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:29:29 -0700, "Roy Blankenship"
wrote: She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Tsk tsk tsk....you leftwing koolaid drinkers fascinate me. So quick to toss about the accusations of lying..when you yourself are liars. Its likely you are trying to cover up your own dishonesty..and make your Obamassiah look palitable. Sorry...didnt work.... http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/ Obama: Most Liberal Senator In 2007 Campaigns Tracker 2008 By Brian Friel, Richard E. Cohen and Kirk Victor, National Journal © National Journal Group Inc. Thursday, Jan. 31, 2008 Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was the most liberal senator in 2007, according to National Journal's 27th annual vote ratings. The insurgent presidential candidate shifted further to the left last year in the run-up to the primaries, after ranking as the 16th- and 10th-most-liberal during his first two years in the Senate. This of course is based on the 143 actual days he bothered to show up and vote. Joe Biden btw...turned in a score to put him in #3 most liberal senator. Now was there anything else you care to expose yourself to ridicule over? Gunner "Obama, raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 23:29:29 -0700, "Roy Blankenship" wrote: She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Tsk tsk tsk....you leftwing koolaid drinkers fascinate me. So quick to toss about the accusations of lying..when you yourself are liars. http://www.alternet.org/story/98502/?page=entire McCain and Palin's Top 20 Lies, Myths and Flip-Flops By Isaac Fitzgerald and Tana Ganeva, AlterNet Posted on September 12, 2008, Printed on September 13, 2008 http://www.alternet.org/story/98502/ The corporate media won't say it and the Obama campaign isn't saying it enough, so we're saying it loud and clear: John McCain is a liar. And so is the woman he now shares the Republican ticket with. Yes, Sarah Palin is a liar, too. Together they are responsible for one of the most inaccurate and misleading presidential campaigns, in a business known for inaccuracy and misdirection. But even by the standards of American politics, the McCain-Palin ticket seems to be in a race with itself to set new standards of low. This isn't opinion, this is fact. Time and time again, on the campaign trail, in press briefings and in interviews, McCain and Palin flip-flop on the issues, propagate myths they know to be false, and flat-out lie to the American people. Unlike the McCain campaign, we have to back up our assertions, so here is a quick, short and cited list of the top 20 lies, myths and flip-flops that have come from the McCain/ Palin ticket so far. 1. The Myth: McCain and Palin claim to be agents of change. The Truth: In a desperate attempt to revive McCain's "maverick" reputation, the McCain campaign is trying to co-opt Obama's slogan. But "change" is a tough act to pull off when your record almost exactly matches the current president's. According to a study cited by the Huffington Post, John McCain voted in keeping with the president's positions 100 percent of the time in 2008 and 95 percent in 2007. 2. The Lie: To burnish Palin's rep as a down-to-earth, no-nonsense fighter of government waste, the campaign keeps bringing up the state-owned jet Palin put on eBay. Today McCain stated: "You know what I enjoyed the most? She took the luxury jet that was acquired by her predecessor and sold it on eBay -- made a profit." The Truth: As Politico points out, Palin did put the Alaska-owned plane on eBay. But she failed to sell it. Instead, the state had to go through a private broker to unload the jet and ended up losing money in the transaction. Or, the opposite of profit. 3. Flip-Flop: Offshore Drilling. Original Position: In 1999, McCain made conservatives very unhappy by supporting a moratorium on offshore drilling. Politically Expedient Position: McCain can't afford to make conservatives unhappy anymore; his campaign now depends on the rapturous love of a conservative base that is still suspicious of him from when he used to take intelligent positions. So he switched his position on offshore drilling. As Dana Milbank at the Washington Post writes, McCain recently argued that "those very same 'moratoria should be lifted' and proposed incentives for the states 'in the form of tangible financial rewards, if the states decide to lift those moratoriums.'" 4. The Lie: McCain and Palin have said up to 29 times and counting that Palin told Congress "'thanks but no thanks' on that Bridge to Nowhere." The Truth: Palin strongly supported the Bridge to Nowhere and campaigned on the issue while running for governor of Alaska in 2006. It should also be noted that she never actually got the chance to tell Congress "no thanks," as Congress killed off the project, choosing instead to give a lump sum for all of Alaska's transportation projects, money that Palin gladly accepted. 5. The Lie: McCain keeps repeating, over and over and over again, that Obama's tax proposals will hurt the middle class. The Truth: Obama's tax policy cuts taxes for people in the middle-income brackets, while his plan would increase taxes only for those with a family income above $250,000 and individuals who make more than $200,000. Not exactly the middle class. 6. The Lie: McCain falsely claims he received every award from every veterans organization. The Truth: Despite saying it again and again, McCain is flat-out lying when he claims to have received the highest award from every veterans organization. As Think Progress reports: He received a grade of D from the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America and a 20 percent vote rating from the Disabled Veterans of America; Vietnam Veterans of America noted McCain had "voted against us" in 15 "key votes." As for the American Legion and the Veterans of Foreign Wars -- with whom McCain claims to have a "perfect voting record" -- both groups vigorously supported Sen. Jim Webb's (D-Va.) GI Bill that McCain tirelessly opposed. Given McCain's grades at the Naval Academy, maybe he thinks 20 percent approval is actually really good. 7. Flip-Flop: Immigration Reform. Original Position: McCain was once a proponent of an immigration plan that would combine securing the borders with a temporary worker program and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants. Politically Expedient Position: With his poll numbers dipping and under attack from Republican opponents during the primaries, McCain switched his position on immigration. As the AP reports, instead of supporting broad immigration reform, McCain's first and foremost priority now is to secure the borders. All that other, less important stuff, could come ... whenever. Stated McCain: "I got the message. ... We will secure the borders first and then go on to other issues." 8. The Lie: An attack ad (ironically called "Fact Check") by the McCain campaign claimed that Factcheck.org, a nonpartisan election-accuracy watchdog, accused Obama of spreading misleading information about Sarah Palin. The Truth: Factcheck.org did not attribute Internet rumors about Palin to the Obama campaign. The organization was in fact debunking information about Palin spread online though anonymous e-mails and Web posts. 9. The Lie: The very same attack ad seems to purposefully misquote an article in the Wall Street Journal. The ad states that the Obama campaign sent a team to Alaska to "dig dirt on Governor Palin." The Truth: The article actually stated they were sent to "dig into her record and background." Also, as it turns out, the article was wrong to begin with. Obama did not send a team to Alaska to dig into anything. What are the chances McCain will pull the ad and apologize? 10. The Lie: An attack ad by the McCain campaign says Obama is "against troop funding." The Truth: According to Factcheck.org, Obama has only voted against one war-funding bill, "after Bush vetoed a version that contained a date for withdrawal from Iraq." 11. The Myth: McCain echoed his wife's dubious claim that Alaska's proximity to Russia makes Palin qualified to tackle the complex foreign policy issues facing the next administration. When asked if Palin is up to the challenge of dealing with "an insurgent Russia," McCain responded, "... Alaska is right next to Russia. She understands that." The Truth: As Steve Benen, writing for CBS News, points out: Palin has never been to Russia. She's never demonstrated any expertise on U.S. policy toward Russia. She doesn't have any background in international relations at any level. But for Republicans, the fact that she's lived in a state near Russia is somehow a qualification for national office. ... It's the dumbest argument I've ever heard. 12. The Lie: A McCain Web ad affixed the clever moniker "Dr. No" to Obama, claiming Obama says "no" to energy "innovation" and to "the electric car." The Truth: In fact, according to Factcheck.org, "Obama proposed a $150 billion program of research into a wide variety of clean-energy technologies last year." Also, Obama is not against the electric car. He's against McCain's ridiculous plan to award a $300 million prize to the person who fixes a glitch in electric car battery technology. 13. The Lie: McCain says that Obama wants kids to learn "about sex before learning how to read." The Truth: McCain's attack ad "Education," in which he blatantly lies to try to make it look like Obama wants to educate kindergartners about sex, cites a bill that was a piece of legislation in the Illinois state senate. The bill was meant to add disease prevention to already standard Illinois state-approved sex-ed classes. That means, in cases of education in kindergarten, nothing more than child predator prevention. For McCain to exploit a bill that protects small children from deviant criminals in our society is disgusting. 14. The Lie: McCain claims Obama doesn't think Iran is a threat. The Truth: In a misleading attack ad titled "Tiny," meant to make Obama look naive about foreign policy, McCain took an Obama quote out of context to make it look like he thinks Iran is a "tiny" threat. The ad does not note that Obama said Iran is "tiny" when compared to the threat that the Soviet Union once posed to the United States. Which, you know, when you think about all those nuclear warheads and that giant army, it is. 15. Flip-Flop: Windfall profits tax. Original Position: McCain has said he would look into a windfall profits tax, a smart thing to do when gas prices are through the roof and oil companies are reporting record profits. While speaking in North Carolina on the campaign trail, McCain said: I'd be glad to look not just at the windfall profits tax -- that's not what bothers me -- but we should look at any incentives that we are giving to people, that or industries or corporations that are distorting the market. Politically Expedient Position: Of course, McCain was singing a different tune while talking with oil industry insiders in Texas, where he made fun of Obama's support of windfall profit taxes: He wants a windfall profits tax on oil, to go along with the new taxes he also plans for coal and natural gas. If the plan sounds familiar, it's because that was President Jimmy Carter's big idea too -- and a lot of good it did us. So which is the senator for? A tax that will help the people, or a favor for your buddies in big oil? We may never know. 16. The Lie: CBS's Katie Couric thinks Obama is using sexism against Palin. The Truth: A misleading attack ad released by the McCain campaign titled "Lipstick" ends with CBS's Katie Couric saying: "One of the great lessons of that campaign is the continued and accepted role of sexism in American life." The ad implies that Couric is talking about the Obama campaign's treatment of Palin, but in reality the quote is from before Palin joined the McCain ticket; Couric was talking about Hillary Clinton. CBS was so upset over the dishonest way that Couric's quote was used that it forced the McCain campaign to take the ad down. 17. The Lie: McCain proposes that Obama is the cause of rising gas prices. The Truth: This one is just absurd. There is no way that Obama is in any way responsible for rising gas prices, as McCain proposed in his attack ad, "Pump." In fact, McCain himself has said that the energy problems we face today were "thirty years in the making." 18. The Lie: Obama snubbed wounded troops in Germany because the press couldn't come with him. The Truth: Andrea Mitchell of NBC, who was part of the press corps that toured with Obama, reacted when McCain's attack ad came out by saying: "That literally is not true. ... The point is that Obama had no intention of bringing any cameras with him -- I was there, I can vouch for that." Obama's reason for not making the visit: He was worried that it would be politicized. Before arriving in Germany, Obama had visited wounded troops while in Baghdad, without any press. 19. The Myth: McCain argues that Palin is a historic feminist pick. The Truth: A woman has already been nominated to be a vice presidential candidate. The Democrats beat the republicans to the punch 24 years ago with Geraldine Ferraro. That is much less important than the fact that Palin isn't a feminist pick at all. You can't be against so many feminist causes and be a pro-feminist pick. Now, capitulation for the far Right, that's probably closer to the truth. 20. Flip-Flop: Super POW John McCain Changes His Tune on Torture. Original Position: McCain's original stance on waterboarding, straight up: "It is torture." Politically Expedient Position: But when push came to shove, he voted against a bill that would have set an interrogation standard forbidding waterboarding no matter what. Sometimes even an ex-POW has to look tough. Luckily, the bill still passed. Unluckily, McCain's good buddy George W. Bush vetoed it. -- John R. Carroll www.machiningsolution.com |
I'm voting republican because...
"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Explain who is more liberal. He may not really be the most liberal. Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills, he just voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them. |
I'm voting republican because...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Roy Blankenship" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Explain who is more liberal. He may not really be the most liberal. Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills, Dude. His record in the Senate has been posted here numerous times, and you are dead wrong. Stop listening to the right-wing pundits, they are desperate liars, but way too many people hear a sound byte and believe it. I have been correcting my Democrat friends who have been repeating McCain's lies about Obama's tax ideas. he just voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them. No kidding. And under whose administration did all the debt pile up? You are not taking the whole picture into consideration. |
I'm voting republican because...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Roy Blankenship" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Explain who is more liberal. He may not really be the most liberal. Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills, he just voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them. Well, then, stay away from the Republicans, because, since the first days of Reagan's administration, almost every dollar of the national debt has been racked up by them. Or, you can hold out in the vain hope that deficit-hawk, moderate Republicans will come back some day. That's what I'm doing, but I'm also hoping for the return of the ivory-billed woodpecker. -- Ed Huntress |
Our economy...
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sep 15, 2:40*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Explain who is more liberal. depends on which source you use to determine who's liberal/ conservative. UCSD has a listing that has obama about 8th. and mccain's fairly conservative (extreme)...WHEN he bothers to vote at all *He may not really be the most liberal. *Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills obama's been a senator for 4 years...has 3 significant pieces of legislation mccain's been in govt. for 26 years...has about 6 pieces. mccain's not a leader. he's a follower. he's not the brightest bulb in congress, but he IS a big liar. , he just voted the liberal line. *So I may be wrong. *But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. and mccain is dedicated to bankrupting the US. his economic advisor, phil gramm, is partially responsible for the lehman bros/merrill lynch meltdown we saw today. not sure why you love poverty, but if you vote mccain you'll get to experience it first hand. *He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. *My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them biggest spenders in the last 30 years? ronald reagan george bush both republicans. |
Our economy...
On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the economy is, indeed, doing fine as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'..... |
I'm voting republican because...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:10:14 -0700, "Roy Blankenship"
wrote: Dude. His record in the Senate has been posted here numerous times, and you are dead wrong. Stop listening to the right-wing pundits, they are desperate liars, but way too many people hear a sound byte and believe it. I have been correcting my Democrat friends who have been repeating McCain's lies about Obama's tax ideas. Sure Roy...sure. How big is the Obama sign in your front yard? he just voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them. No kidding. And under whose administration did all the debt pile up? You are not taking the whole picture into consideration. FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on. Gunner |
I'm voting republican because...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Sep 15, 2:40*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "Roy Blankenship" wrote in message You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Explain who is more liberal. depends on which source you use to determine who's liberal/ conservative. UCSD has a listing that has obama about 8th. and mccain's fairly conservative (extreme)...WHEN he bothers to vote at all *He may not really be the most liberal. *Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills obama's been a senator for 4 years...has 3 significant pieces of legislation And in the 146 days he actually showed up..what were those pieces of legislation again? mccain's been in govt. for 26 years...has about 6 pieces. mccain's not a leader. he's a follower. he's not the brightest bulb in congress, but he IS a big liar. Cites? , he just voted the liberal line. *So I may be wrong. *But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. and mccain is dedicated to bankrupting the US. his economic advisor, phil gramm, is partially responsible for the lehman bros/merrill lynch meltdown we saw today. Right. Cites? not sure why you love poverty, but if you vote mccain you'll get to experience it first hand. *He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. *My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them biggest spenders in the last 30 years? ronald reagan Would that be the same St Ronald Reagan who rebuilt the military that Carter destroyed, ended the Cold War and ended Communism through most of the planet? Seems like money well spent. george bush Hummm...something about rebuilding the military that Clinton destroyed, and engaged in a war voted for by Democrats? Seems that Democrats are pretty good about destroying the military no? And forcing Republicans to rebuild it. both republicans. Say..hows that Great Society/War on Poverty coming along? About the same as that War on (some) Drugs? GUnner |
I'm voting republican because...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:07:20 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:
FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on. Gunner http://zfacts.com/p/318.html |
I'm voting republican because...
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Our economy...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. Actually..it is strong. I promise not to cum in your mouth. |
Our economy...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the economy is, indeed, doing fine as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'..... Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those statements...is exquisite. Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but themselves pay for it. |
Our economy...
Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. Actually..it is strong. "Actually..it is strong. " You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards. Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher. Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage default. Major financial institutions are collapsing. Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating. Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office. Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future. But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner, "...it (the economy) is strong." |
Our economy...
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. Actually..it is strong. "Actually..it is strong. " You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards. Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher. Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage default. Major financial institutions are collapsing. Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating. Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office. Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future. But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner, "...it (the economy) is strong." The way these people *think* is along these lines: a recession is when the other guy is out of work a depression is when YOU are out of work take a look at what's going on in Michigan (Detroit area) as far as union wage cuts and employee cuts are concerned. Or the Nevada real estate market. Or any of the textile regions of the southeast. People are hurting _badly_. Anyone who denies this is living on another planet. And to bring it home...take a hard look at California's economy. Banks are folding, that have been in business for 100 years, and the "leading economic indicators" on Wall Street show a house of cards collapsing to the ground. Still, there are those who remain in denial. Stuck on Stupid. Who think things are just fine and dandy. Nick |
Our economy...
On Sep 15, 4:24*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the economy is, indeed, doing fine as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'..... Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those statements...is exquisite. Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but themselves pay for it. i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid 'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and spend...on the rich...the GOP motto |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sep 15, 4:12 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: obama's been a senator for 4 years...has 3 significant pieces of legislation And in the 146 days he actually showed up..what were those pieces of legislation again? i dunno. what did mcbush do in his 10,000 days in congress? not much more it seems, other than help to sponsor legislation causing the meltdown of the US economy. mccain's been in govt. for 26 years...has about 6 pieces. mccain's not a leader. he's a follower. he's not the brightest bulb in congress, but he IS a big liar. Cites? what did he say when confronted with proof palin lied about earmarks? he lied what did he say about obama's policy on sex ed? he lied check the WSJ today. even the far right wing press is calling him a sleazebag. , he just voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. and mccain is dedicated to bankrupting the US. his economic advisor, phil gramm, is partially responsible for the lehman bros/merrill lynch meltdown we saw today. Right. Cites? ever hear of phil gramm? economic advisor to mccain? guess who authored the deregulation of the banking industry? guess who's wife sat on the board of directors of enron when gramm deregulated SEC oversight? gee. you really ARE drinking GOP kool aid by the bucket load, aren't you? not sure why you love poverty, but if you vote mccain you'll get to experience it first hand. He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them biggest spenders in the last 30 years? ronald reagan Would that be the same St Ronald Reagan who rebuilt the military that Carter destroyed, ended the Cold War and ended Communism through most of the planet? Seems like money well spent. ever read alexander kozyrev's article in 'foreign affairs quarterly'? he was foreign affairs minister under the last soviet govt. he said it was ECONOMIC competition, not MILITARY competition that destroyed the USSR more kool aid for you, i guess. george bush Hummm...something about rebuilding the military that Clinton destroyed, and engaged in a war voted for by Democrats? Seems that Democrats are pretty good about destroying the military no? And forcing Republicans to rebuild it. gee. bush went to war against the taliban with the military that clinton built. seems we won in a matter of weeks. oh. you forgot about 9/11. yeah...figures. both republicans. Say..hows that Great Society/War on Poverty coming along? About the same as that War on (some) Drugs? war on drugs? you mean the 'lock 'em up and throw away the key' approach that conservatives have pushed that has led to the US having more prisoners than any country in the world? |
Our economy...
wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 3:21 pm, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the economy is, indeed, doing fine as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'..... Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those statements...is exquisite. Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but themselves pay for it. i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid 'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and spend...on the rich...the GOP motto That has certainly been true these past 7 years. Of course the Democrat politicians approved because Bush made sure that they were paid off and taken care of. ----== Posted via Pronews.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.pronews.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
I'm voting republican because...
On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on. and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on and on..... |
I'm voting republican because...
"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Calif Bill" wrote in message ... "Roy Blankenship" wrote in message m... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message . .. On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote: "John R. Carroll" wrote in message ... Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin is. Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of some liberal boner shrinker. Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience, and wants to burn library books based upon her religion? Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current condition? Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses? -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- I Love Republicans, They Taste Just Like Chickenhawks ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ---- .................................................. .............. Posted via TITANnews - Uncensored Newsgroups Access at http://www.TitanNews.com -=Every Newsgroup - Anonymous, UNCENSORED, BROADBAND Downloads=- She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot from his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a living. How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social programs? How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens earnings? You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative crap that no one can predict. Explain who is more liberal. He may not really be the most liberal. Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills, Dude. His record in the Senate has been posted here numerous times, and you are dead wrong. Stop listening to the right-wing pundits, they are desperate liars, but way too many people hear a sound byte and believe it. I have been correcting my Democrat friends who have been repeating McCain's lies about Obama's tax ideas. he just voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt being passed on to them. No kidding. And under whose administration did all the debt pile up? You are not taking the whole picture into consideration. All the administrations are piling and have piled on debt. Only thing that saved Clinton, who piled on debt in the first 2 years was Newt and the "Contract with America" which forced a balanced budget, and the fact the dot.bomb debacle brought in money faster than even Congress could spend it. |
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"strabo" wrote in message ... wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 3:21 pm, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the economy is, indeed, doing fine as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'..... Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those statements...is exquisite. Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but themselves pay for it. i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid 'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and spend...on the rich...the GOP motto That has certainly been true these past 7 years. Of course the Democrat politicians approved because Bush made sure that they were paid off and taken care of. Which time zone do you live in, strabo? Is it one of the Earth time zones, or something else? -- Ed Huntress |
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On Sep 15, 5:44*pm, strabo wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 4:24 pm, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Sep 15, 3:21 pm, A Boater wrote: "Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong." —John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15 Right. And the check is in the mail. john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the economy is, indeed, doing fine as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'..... Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those statements...is exquisite. Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but themselves pay for it. i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid 'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and spend...on the rich...the GOP motto * That has certainly been true these past 7 years. Of course the Democrat politicians approved because Bush made sure that they were paid off and taken care of. nah, greedy *******s that they are, the reaganites simply lied to the public, destroyed the democrats, then stole everything except the white house furniture. |
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