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Jerry[_4_] September 16th 08 03:20 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 


"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote:



"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
...

Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be
undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election. Palin
is.


Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years, instead of
some liberal boner shrinker.


Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a
housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her campaign
with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic or
tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?

Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded the
Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current
condition?

Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses?


Neither. Here I thought you were finally ready to discuss something real
with me, but I notice your gratuitous name calling, even before I had the
chance to respond. No matter, let's address the facts.

Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win the
office of President.

Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.

Secondly, your every post, ok 99% of your posts, claim that somebody is
lying, misrepresenting, lying through misrepresenting, lying by
misdirecting, lying buy misconsideration, etc. Because of your track record
of calling everyone you disagree with a liar, you are like the boy who cried
wolf. Your claims of lies and misrepresentations cannot be taken seriously,.
When you complain that Sarah Palin started her career with lies and
misrepresentations, I can equate that with the time you called me a liar
because I stated you were intelligent. This is what I mean when I say you
are noise, you have misrepresented yourself so much, that everything you say
is suspect and potentially a lie.

Sarah Palin speaks English, better English than the ebonics that Obama
speaks. She doesn't "misspeak" or tell lies like Obama does. No foreign
language speaking is required for the office she is seeking. On the other
hand, Obama does speak a foreign language, he speaks Bahasa. What is Bahasa
you ask? It is the language spoken in the world's most populous Muslim
majority nation., Indonesia. "When prominent Indonesians visit the U.S.,
the first person they want to meet is Obama, says Parnohadiningrat
Sudjadnan, the Indonesian ambassador to the U.S. 'Back home people think of
him as one of us, or at least one who understands us,' he says, adding that
they are delighted to find that Obama speaks passable Bahasa, the language
spoken in Indonesia and Malaysia.
http://www.time.com/time/politics/ar...695803,00.html

As for strategic, tactical, or military experience, Sarah Palin is also
better qualified as evidenced by these shooting photos. Even Hillary
outranks Obama.
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/a...80_570587a.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/...0obama.650.jpg
Caution, picture of liberal boner shrinker linked below.
http://www.appletreeblog.com/wp-cont...linton-gun.jpg

Regarding Palin burning books, this is a statement made out of desperation
by the liberals who fear that there is finally somebody worth electing to
the White House, and it isn't Obama. All mentions of book burning appear to
be from lib blogs, in response to rumors that Palin tried to ban books. This
is also False. As proof I offer this link to snopes.com where this was
firmly stated as being false, unlike your link to snopes where it is not
stated as False, that Obama thought there were 57 states.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp

As for Palin and her belief in God, I find it refreshing that she is not
afraid to express her faith. Did not Obama utter "God Bless America" once
himself? Yes he did, he believes God will Bless America, otherwise why would
he say it? Was it just political? Yes, I recall it was when his loving
pastor, Rev. Wright said blacks should sing "God damn American" instead of
"God bless America." I'll take Palin over Obama, any day. And she's a hottie
too.

Insert gratuitous attack here.


Gunner Asch September 16th 08 03:22 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:12 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:34:46 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


obama's been a senator for 4 years...has 3 significant pieces of
legislation


And in the 146 days he actually showed up..what were those pieces of
legislation again?


i dunno. what did mcbush do in his 10,000 days in congress? not much
more it seems, other than help to sponsor legislation causing the
meltdown of the US economy.


Who is mcbush?



mccain's been in govt. for 26 years...has about 6 pieces.


mccain's not a leader. he's a follower. he's not the brightest bulb in
congress, but he IS a big liar.


Cites?


what did he say when confronted with proof palin lied about earmarks?

he lied

what did he say about obama's policy on sex ed? he lied

check the WSJ today. even the far right wing press is calling him a
sleazebag.




, he just voted
the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice of
friends, is extremely leftist.


and mccain is dedicated to bankrupting the US. his economic advisor,
phil gramm, is partially responsible for the lehman bros/merrill lynch
meltdown we saw today.


Right. Cites?


ever hear of phil gramm? economic advisor to mccain?

guess who authored the deregulation of the banking industry?

guess who's wife sat on the board of directors of enron when gramm
deregulated SEC oversight?

gee. you really ARE drinking GOP kool aid by the bucket load, aren't
you?




not sure why you love poverty, but if you vote mccain you'll get to
experience it first hand.


He has proposed huge increase in Government
and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not afford more debt
being passed on to them


biggest spenders in the last 30 years?


ronald reagan


Would that be the same St Ronald Reagan who rebuilt the military that
Carter destroyed, ended the Cold War and ended Communism through most
of the planet?
Seems like money well spent.


ever read alexander kozyrev's article in 'foreign affairs quarterly'?
he was foreign affairs minister under the last soviet govt.


Yes I have.

he said it was ECONOMIC competition, not MILITARY competition that
destroyed the USSR


All those competative foreign exports eh, like AK-74s?

more kool aid for you, i guess.


george bush


Hummm...something about rebuilding the military that Clinton
destroyed, and engaged in a war voted for by Democrats?

Seems that Democrats are pretty good about destroying the military no?
And forcing Republicans to rebuild it.


gee. bush went to war against the taliban with the military that
clinton built. seems we won in a matter of weeks.


Really? Then why did the Leftwingers bitch about no armor, no up
armored vehicles etc etc et?

oh. you forgot about 9/11.

yeah...figures.


Odd..I was going to say the same thing to you.




both republicans.


Say..hows that Great Society/War on Poverty coming along? About the
same as that War on (some) Drugs?


war on drugs? you mean the 'lock 'em up and throw away the key'
approach that conservatives have pushed that has led to the US having
more prisoners than any country in the world?


Throw away the key? Sonny...Im an ex cop. If we had done just
that..we wouldnt be having the problems we do have.
Its called a revolving door.

You dont know much, do you?

Gunner


Gunner Asch September 16th 08 03:23 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....



Odd...how come the Dems keep funding it?

Say...how long were we in Vietnam, under Democrat leadership...hummm?

Snicker



Gunner Asch September 16th 08 03:26 AM

Our economy...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:24*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.


john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the
economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the
economy is, indeed, doing fine


as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'.....


Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those
statements...is exquisite.

Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but
themselves pay for it.


i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid

'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and
spend...on the rich...the GOP motto


sorry..wrong, unless your version of history starts on Jan 7, 2001

You must be the result of a NEA school curriculum.
Though Ill bet you feel good about yourself, wallowing around in your
ignorance.

Gunner


Gunner Asch September 16th 08 03:33 AM

Our economy...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.






Actually..it is strong.





"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.


Cites?

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Bush's fault?

Major financial institutions are collapsing.


Bush's fault?


Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.


Bush's fault?


Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.


Gasoline is going down, does he get credit for that too?


Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


Bush controls the Media?



But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."


I passed 11 brand new machine tools all nicly wrapped in plastic on
trucks last week at variouis times, Haas, Fadal etc

Been in a Walmart lately?

Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.

Are we in a recession? Yes, but not a bad one. Seen any bread lines
and soup kitchens lately?

If there had been a Democrat in office, we likely would be going
through the same cycle..and you would be claiming all was rosey

You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.

Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner, reader of history long before Jan 7, 2001




Gunner Asch September 16th 08 03:35 AM

Our economy...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:07:07 -0500, Nicholas
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.






Actually..it is strong.





"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."

The way these people *think* is along these lines:

a recession is when the other guy is out of work

a depression is when YOU are out of work

take a look at what's going on in Michigan (Detroit area) as far as
union wage cuts and employee cuts are concerned. Or the Nevada real
estate market.


They have been in the ******** for years..even before Clinton.
Rustbelt ring any bells?

Or any of the textile regions of the southeast.

That goes back to at least Carter. when shoes and textiles were
offshored.


People are hurting _badly_. Anyone who denies this is living on
another planet. And to bring it home...take a hard look at
California's economy.


I live in California.


Banks are folding, that have been in business for 100 years, and the
"leading economic indicators" on Wall Street show a house of cards
collapsing to the ground.


Greed is a terrible thing when it goes out of control.

Still, there are those who remain in denial. Stuck on Stupid. Who
think things are just fine and dandy.

Nick


I said the economy is still strong, not that everything was fine and
dandy.

The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.



Jerry[_4_] September 16th 08 03:36 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 


"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message
m...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
m...

"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:24:13 -0500, Jerry wrote:



"John R. Carroll" wrote in
message
...

Cheney and Quayle weren't in line behind a guy that is likely to be
undergoing chemo during the first few month's after an election.
Palin
is.


Good, then we get to watch her on TV for the next eight years,
instead

of
some liberal boner shrinker.

Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands
of

a
housewife without foreign exposure? Sarah Palin who began her
campaign
with lies and misrepresentations, someone without a shred of strategic

or
tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military
experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?

Are you really postulating that Sarah Palin, who thinks God commanded

the
Iraq and Afghanistani wars, is qualified to run America in its current
condition?

Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses?

--
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She is the Veep. What foreign experience does Obama have? Not a lot
from
his few days he has showed up in the Senate. Being the most liberal
legislator is enough to give the shivers to anybody who works for a

living.
How much of your wages are you going to contribute to his social
programs?
How much do you want to mortgage your children and grandchildrens

earnings?

You are repeating falsehoods when you accuse Obama of being the most
liberal, and this puts your credibility in question. It is clear you have
been sucking up the propaganda, so don't even give us this speculative
crap
that no one can predict.




Explain who is more liberal. He may not really be the most liberal.
Spent so little time in the Senate and never introduced any bills, he just
voted the liberal line. So I may be wrong. But his background and choice
of friends, is extremely leftist. He has proposed huge increase in
Government and government spending. My kids and grandchildren can not
afford more debt being passed on to them.


Find your answer he
http://www.google.com/search?rls=ig&...earch&aq=f&oq=


wf3h September 16th 08 03:40 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 9:23*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....


Odd...how come the Dems keep funding it?

Say...how long were we in Vietnam, under Democrat leadership...hummm?

Snicker


and how long were we there under the war criminal, republican nixon,
who unleashed the CIA to spy on american citizens? (source: 'the
history of the CIA' by matt weiner)

wf3h September 16th 08 03:44 AM

Our economy...
 
On Sep 15, 9:26*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Sep 15, 4:24*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.


john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the
economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the
economy is, indeed, doing fine


as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'.....


Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those
statements...is exquisite.


Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but
themselves pay for it.


i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid


'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and
spend...on the rich...the GOP motto


sorry..wrong, unless your version of history starts on Jan 7, 2001


well...you said it so it must be so.

and, you're a mccain supporter, therefore you're a liar

for an objective analysis of the size of the deficits, see

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...es_and_no.html


You must be the result of a NEA school curriculum.
Though Ill bet you feel good about yourself, wallowing around in your
ignorance.


says the man who watches mccain as if he is a bobble-head doll, just
bouncing his empty head everytime mccain spouts a lie.

wf3h September 16th 08 03:45 AM

Our economy...
 
On Sep 15, 9:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.-


sorry...the GOP has already sold the US to the chinese. there's
nothing left to tax

wf3h September 16th 08 03:52 AM

Our economy...
 
On Sep 15, 9:33*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.


[email protected] September 16th 08 03:58 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 11:16*am, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 03:41:14 -0700, hot-ham-and-cheese wrote:
Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of
a housewife without foreign exposure? *


Better than putting it in the hands of a foreigner.


Another lie, irrelevant, and the old "lesser of two evils" argument that
got us in this mess to begin with.


Clinton was not the lesser of two evils, he was the "I voted for an
independant and we got a liberal."

wf3h September 16th 08 04:07 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 9:22*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h

i dunno. what did mcbush do in his 10,000 days in congress? not much
more it seems, other than help to sponsor legislation causing the
meltdown of the US economy.


Who is mcbush?


god you really are an idiot, aren't you? don't even recognize a slang
term for your pimp.

ever read alexander kozyrev's article in 'foreign affairs quarterly'?
he was foreign affairs minister *under the last soviet govt.


Yes I have.


uh huh. i'll bet you did.



he said it was ECONOMIC competition, not MILITARY competition that
destroyed the USSR


All those competative foreign exports eh, like AK-74s?


if you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of hiroshima.

gee. bush went to war against the taliban with the military that
clinton built. seems we won in a matter of weeks.


Really? Then why did the Leftwingers bitch about no armor, no up
armored vehicles etc etc et?



what they bitched about was the fact we were fighting an insurgency
with an army built to fight the soviets...COMPLETELY different
tactics. and it took YEARS for bush to address the issues. just like
he ignored the need for more troops until he had a great military
revelation:

HE LOST THE CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS OF 2006!! yessirree, bob, it's
hard to fool bush. general shinseki said we needed more troops in
2004. bush fired him.

it wasn't until forced by POLITICS, not MILITARY strategy that bush
changed course.

you need someone to refill the air in your head. it's obviously empty.




oh. you forgot about 9/11.


yeah...figures.


Odd..I was going to say the same thing to you.


gee. i was there. you weren't. sorry.


war on drugs? you mean the 'lock 'em up and throw away the key'
approach that conservatives have pushed that has led to the US having
more prisoners than any country in the world?


Throw away the key? *Sonny...Im an ex cop. If we had done just
that..we wouldnt be having the problems we do have.
Its called a revolving door.


55% of federal prisoners and 21% of state prisoners are in jail for
non violent drug offenses.

seems like you never arrested many criminals, did you? why not change
your luck and head for 1600 PA evenue: arrest bush.


You dont know much, do you?


we don't need the large hadron collider. the most perfect vacuum in
the universe is inside your head.

Gunner Asch September 16th 08 04:21 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:19:22 -0400, A Boater wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:07:20 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.

Gunner



http://zfacts.com/p/318.html



You're trying to lead "gunner" to the light?
Intellectually, he's not even worth stomping on.

Good luck.



What point was the ****tard trying to make with the graph?

Odd how it starts at 1950. Is that the year the US became a nation?

Why not present one that starts at 1850 and see what we have, no?

Fascinating the spin in the sentence below the graph...

"
In 1981 the gross national debt, compared to the nation's annual
income, reached its lowest point since 1931. Despite his claim to hate
the debt, Reagan instituted unprecedented peacetime deficit spending.
This is not partisan politics, this is straight off the White House
web site."

One is aware that the US was in the deep **** in 1931 ...and Reagan
ended the Coldwar, the Soviet Union and Communism across most of the
planet, by outspending the Soviets. Seems that since the Cold War
started in 1945 and cost uncounted bazzillions of dollars until
Reagan..his expendetures were money pretty well spent. No?

Or are you still worried that Soviet ICBMs are 15 minutes away?
Having to rebuild the military, destroyed by Carter, was another
largish cost as well, Just like Bush inheriting an underequipped,
understaffed and tiny military better suited for Meals On Wheels, from
Clinton...and having to rebuild it once again.
You remember..the military the Leftards were screaming about the
troops having no body armor, etc etc...thank you Bill Clinton. The
Clinton military where the best trained, most motivated bailed out by
the busload for the civilian sector, in disgust.


And you arent worth ****ting on.

Gunner

"Obama, raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies
and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich

Gunner Asch September 16th 08 04:22 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....



Lets see..FDR directed both the European and Pacific campaigns eh?

Snicker

Gunner

"Obama, raises taxes and kills babies. Sarah Palin - raises babies
and kills taxes." Pyotr Flipivich

wf3h September 16th 08 04:31 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 10:22*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....


Lets see..FDR directed both the European and Pacific campaigns eh?


ROFLMAO!! the population of japan was? of germany? the size of the
german and japanese armies?

hell, man, you don't even know basic history. you probably think john
belushi was a history professor in 'animal house' because he said the
germans bombed pearl harbor.



wf3h September 16th 08 04:46 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 5:41*am, wrote:
On Sep 15, 12:38*am, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:

Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a
housewife without foreign exposure? *


Better than putting it in the hands of a foreigner.


i agree. mccain was born in the panama canal zone. he doesn't deserve
to be president...


someone without a shred of strategic or
tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?


You've described Obama.


he wants a hillbilly president. after all, the US doesn't need a
leader who can out think putin, or the chinese or the saudis. all she
has to do is show 'em she can shoot and they'll roll right over.

yep, he's republican alright.


You do like to make up lies, don't you?

Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses?


Did Obama serve? *He has no "tactical" experience. *He has no
"strategic" experience. *He has no foreign experience.

Is he a pacifist?



which is incorrect. obama authored the bill to find and clean up
weapons of mass destruction in russia...which, otherwise, may have
gone to terrorists. he's lightyears ahead of the sportswriter bimbo.

Jerry[_4_] September 16th 08 05:39 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 


"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 15, 9:20 pm, "Jerry" wrote:


Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win
the
office of President.

Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.


obama grew up in hawaii and went to american schools and college


Obama was BORN in Kenya.


[email protected] September 16th 08 05:45 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 11:46*pm, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 5:41*am, wrote:

On Sep 15, 12:38*am, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:


Do you really look forward to putting the United States in the hands of a
housewife without foreign exposure? *


Better than putting it in the hands of a foreigner.


i agree. mccain was born in the panama canal zone. he doesn't deserve
to be president...


So you think the children of service men and service women born on USA
military installations overseas are foreigners? I don't.

someone without a shred of strategic or
tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?


You've described Obama.


he wants a hillbilly president.


Who wants a hillbilly president? Obama? Squirrelly?

We've recently had a hillbilly president in Bill Clinton.

after all, the US doesn't need a
leader who can out think putin, or the chinese or the saudis. all she
has to do is show 'em she can shoot and they'll roll right over.


Obama couldn't think his way out of a wet cardboard box if he didn't
have his earpiece in.

yep, he's republican alright.


? he? she?

You do like to make up lies, don't you?


Or are you a pacifist troll trying to tweak noses?


Did Obama serve? *He has no "tactical" experience. *He has no
"strategic" experience. *He has no foreign experience.


Is he a pacifist?


which is incorrect. obama authored the bill to find and clean up
weapons of mass destruction in russia...


Wow! He authored a bill? A real bill? A real USA law that will be a
real law in Russia??? How does that happen?

Was it called SALT 1 or SALT 2? START?

I "feel" so much better knowing that Obama has stood on the wall and
defended me.

which, otherwise, may have
gone to terrorists. he's lightyears ahead of the sportswriter bimbo.


The things you never knew you never knew.

Curly Surmudgeon September 16th 08 08:35 AM

I'm voting republican because... -- More Jerry Lies
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:20:48 -0500, Jerry wrote:

Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other
hand, Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.


And you continue to tell lies even after being corrected.

--
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Gunner Asch September 16th 08 10:36 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:07:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:22*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:32:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h

i dunno. what did mcbush do in his 10,000 days in congress? not much
more it seems, other than help to sponsor legislation causing the
meltdown of the US economy.


Who is mcbush?


god you really are an idiot, aren't you? don't even recognize a slang
term for your pimp.


I dont have a pimp. Why should I? Unlike your family, no one here are
prostitutes.

ever read alexander kozyrev's article in 'foreign affairs quarterly'?
he was foreign affairs minister *under the last soviet govt.


Yes I have.


uh huh. i'll bet you did.


Prove I didnt, or look the buffoon.



he said it was ECONOMIC competition, not MILITARY competition that
destroyed the USSR


All those competative foreign exports eh, like AK-74s?


if you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of hiroshima.


Interesting but failed attempt to refute on your part. Rather pathetic
actually.

gee. bush went to war against the taliban with the military that
clinton built. seems we won in a matter of weeks.


Really? Then why did the Leftwingers bitch about no armor, no up
armored vehicles etc etc et?



what they bitched about was the fact we were fighting an insurgency
with an army built to fight the soviets...COMPLETELY different
tactics. and it took YEARS for bush to address the issues. just like
he ignored the need for more troops until he had a great military
revelation:


so they didnt bitch about no body armor, no up armored hummers and so
forth?

Odd..google calls you a pathetic liar.

HE LOST THE CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS OF 2006!! yessirree, bob, it's
hard to fool bush. general shinseki said we needed more troops in
2004. bush fired him.


What congressional elections? Bush is a member of Congress too???

it wasn't until forced by POLITICS, not MILITARY strategy that bush
changed course.


Odd..Gen Petrais would disagree with you.

you need someone to refill the air in your head. it's obviously empty.


Commentary from a pathetic liar like yourself, is hardly worth
blinking about.




oh. you forgot about 9/11.


yeah...figures.


Odd..I was going to say the same thing to you.


gee. i was there. you weren't. sorry.


Too bad you arent dead. Then you would actually be worth something to
your family.


war on drugs? you mean the 'lock 'em up and throw away the key'
approach that conservatives have pushed that has led to the US having
more prisoners than any country in the world?


Throw away the key? *Sonny...Im an ex cop. If we had done just
that..we wouldnt be having the problems we do have.
Its called a revolving door.


55% of federal prisoners and 21% of state prisoners are in jail for
non violent drug offenses.


Yes indeed. And they will be out shortly.

seems like you never arrested many criminals, did you? why not change
your luck and head for 1600 PA evenue: arrest bush.


why arrest Bush? He hasnt done anything illegal. You on the other
hand are guilty of high mopery, malmish with intent to creep and being
incapable of caring for yourself.


You dont know much, do you?


we don't need the large hadron collider. the most perfect vacuum in
the universe is inside your head.


Adhoms spewed by a leftard are expected. Yours rate about a 3.5 on the
Libtard SpewOmeter

Practice up...so far..you look like an utter dweep as well as a
buffoon.


Gunner


Gunner Asch September 16th 08 10:38 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:40:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:23*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....


Odd...how come the Dems keep funding it?

Say...how long were we in Vietnam, under Democrat leadership...hummm?

Snicker


and how long were we there under the war criminal, republican nixon,
who unleashed the CIA to spy on american citizens? (source: 'the
history of the CIA' by matt weiner)


War criminal? Cites please, or else be proven a lying cocksucker.

Hummmm....we already know you fit that bill....

Say..hows Ecelon and Carnivore doing these days? You know..the spying
on US citizens via computer put into place by that war criminal Bill
Clinton?

Gunner


Gunner Asch September 16th 08 10:42 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:31:21 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 10:22*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:50:28 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 4:07*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


FDR(D).....though of course, like Bush, he has a war going on.


and, under bush's incompetent leadership, it's gone on, and on, and on
and on.....


Lets see..FDR directed both the European and Pacific campaigns eh?


ROFLMAO!! the population of japan was? of germany? the size of the
german and japanese armies?


Your avoidence of answering the question is noted with amusement.
Say...what was the ROE in both theaters? Something about Bomb them
flat, and then bomb them until the rubble bounces?

Odd...I dont recall that being the ROE in either Iraq or Afghanistan.
When bombing terrorist strongpoints..IE neighborhoods flat..the
resounding SLAM as liberals assholes slammed shut was detected by
seismometers as far away as California.

hell, man, you don't even know basic history. you probably think john
belushi was a history professor in 'animal house' because he said the
germans bombed pearl harbor.


Sonny...you continue to blither like ...well..the usual run of the
mill preprogrammed Useful Idiot droid turned out by the DNC.

Come back when your testicals descend and you grow a clue.

Gunner




Gunner Asch September 16th 08 11:04 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:46:13 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?


You've described Obama.


he wants a hillbilly president. after all, the US doesn't need a
leader who can out think putin, or the chinese or the saudis.



We already had one. Clintons terms ended on Jan 7, 2001



Gunner Asch September 16th 08 11:18 AM

Our economy...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:52:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:33*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.


Cites?


you obviously don't watch the news. seems you only get your
information about the world from mccain ads.


No..I seldom watch the Leftwing Media propaganda.

moron.


Odd..Im thinking the same about you.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.


Bush's fault?


bush, like the good lap dog of the rich that he is, runs to support
every failing financial institution because he's worried about the
rich.


Odd...then he is not trying to keep the economy going and keep the
little people from losing all their money?

Cites?

but when katrina hit new orleans? he ****ed 'em and ****ed 'em good.


Actually...if you had ever left your Mommas basement, you would have
discovered that the Louisiana Democrat Machine, headed up by Gov
Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin ****ed up their constituants very very
badly and it took Bush and the Feds to save those people.

I wonder...with all the damage along the rest of the Gulf coast with
Katrina...why was the Democrat run New Orleans the only one in really
really deep ****...with countless murders of people in the stadium and
dying in the rain (Leftwing media quotes)





Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.


Bush's fault?


actually...yeah. bush could have sent legislation to the GOP
controlled congress anytime during his term to re-regulate financial
markets that had been deregulated by the paid whore senator phil
gramm, republican of.....ahem...texas.


So could have your butt buddy Bill CLinton. Im curious however..why
hasnt the Democrat Controlled Congress taken care of it before the
meltdown?


but texas boys don't **** each other. and gramm's wife, a board
member of enron, was busy raping the employees of enron as it went
bankrupt.


You sound like you are jealous. Or upset you dont get to **** texas
boys.
=
Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.


Gasoline is going down, does he get credit for that too?


you don't think he called his texas buddies and said mccain might lose
unless gas came down?


It appears your grasp of economics and the petroleum industry is as
feeble as your grasp of current politics.

Rather pitiful actually. Sucks to be you.



Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


Bush controls the Media?


look at what happened to olberman on msnbc. he told the truth about
mccain. 15 minutes later, after mccain made a call to NBC, olberman
was off the air.


Like Dan Rather?



Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.


the USA is having a GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE!!! courtesy of the
republicans!! everything must go!!


Odd...the CBO doesnt think so. Only those suffering the terminal
stages of BDS and their programmers in the DNC make those sort of
bull**** claims.

Are we in a recession? Yes, but not a bad one. Seen any bread lines
and soup kitchens lately?

If there had been a Democrat in office, we likely would be going
through the same cycle..and you would be claiming all was rosey


and who was the last president to balance the budget??

a democrat named 'clinton'


ROFLMAO....even CLintons CBO calls him and you a liar. There was NO
balanced budget, you utter ****wit..it was smoke and mirrors with
accounting tricks. In fact..Clinton gave us the recession when he left
that Bush had to pull the country out of when he first took office.

Need the cites on that one too?



You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.


says the guy who thinks republicans wrote the 4 gospels.


Im Buddhist. I dont pay attention to gospels.


Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?


too late. the country has already collapsed. better learn chinese, my
friend.


Odd..the chinese are learning English. If the US goes down the
toilet..so will the Chinese..and a big chunk of the rest of the
planet.

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

Ill wave as you shuffle by, carrying your personal possessions in a
cardboard box on your was to a soup kitchen..maybe..or if your luck
runs out..an unmarked grave as a Underprivledged Youth sticks a blade
into your neck and loots whatever crumbs you have left.

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner



Gunner Asch September 16th 08 11:18 AM

Our economy...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:45:24 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.-


sorry...the GOP has already sold the US to the chinese. there's
nothing left to tax



Tell that to your Obamassiah.

Gunner


Gunner Asch September 16th 08 11:21 AM

Our economy...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:44:18 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:26*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:23:01 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Sep 15, 4:24*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:36:11 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Sep 15, 3:21*pm, A Boater wrote:
"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.


john mccain, like all hezbollah (AKA the GOP) members, thinks the
economy is his personal piggybank. so as long as he's rich, the
economy is, indeed, doing fine


as to the rest of us? 'let 'em eat cake'.....


Blink blink ..the irony of a ****wit lefttard making those
statements...is exquisite.


Let them eat cake..cause Dems are going to make everyone but
themselves pay for it.


i see you've had a sip of hezbollah (AKA the GOP) koolaid


'cuz the GOP is the biggest spending party in US history. tax and
spend...on the rich...the GOP motto


sorry..wrong, unless your version of history starts on Jan 7, 2001


well...you said it so it must be so.

and, you're a mccain supporter, therefore you're a liar


Obviously you are a liar. Im likely to vote for Ron Paul or Barr.

Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me.

for an objective analysis of the size of the deficits, see

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...es_and_no.html


You must be the result of a NEA school curriculum.
Though Ill bet you feel good about yourself, wallowing around in your
ignorance.


says the man who watches mccain as if he is a bobble-head doll, just
bouncing his empty head everytime mccain spouts a lie.


Laugh laugh ..I give that spew about a 1.8 on the ****tard o meter

Say..based on your posts..it would appear you have about 2 months of
life left, before you die of BDS. With luck.. you will last long
enough to see Obama lose in November.

Will you be self terminating on YouTube if it happens?




[email protected] September 16th 08 11:37 AM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:31:21 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 10:22*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

Lets see..FDR directed both the European and Pacific campaigns eh?


ROFLMAO!! the population of japan was? of germany? the size of the
german and japanese armies?

hell, man, you don't even know basic history. you probably think john
belushi was a history professor in 'animal house' because he said the
germans bombed pearl harbor.



How long did our involvement in WWII last until it was decisively
settled?

How long have we been drifting aimlessly in Iraq?


Unspecified goals can never be reached.


wf3h September 16th 08 01:52 PM

Our economy...
 
On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:52:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
you obviously don't watch the news. seems you only get your

information about the world from mccain ads.


No..I seldom watch the Leftwing Media propaganda.



there is no left wing in this country. there is fox news...and then
there's the right wing press.

bush, like the good lap dog of the rich that he is, runs to support
every failing financial institution because he's worried about the
rich.


Odd...then he is not trying to keep the economy going and keep the
little people from losing all their money?


uh huh. that's why he bails out bear stearns and resists helping
individual home owners who are losing their home.

so, no...he's not helping the middle class.


Cites?



but when katrina hit new orleans? he ****ed 'em and ****ed 'em good.


Actually...if you had ever left your Mommas basement, you would have
discovered that the Louisiana Democrat Machine, headed up by Gov
Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin ****ed up their constituants very very
badly and it took Bush and the Feds to save those people.


uh...no. there were no federal resources available to help, except for
the Coast Guard which rescued 33,000 people.

bush put a horse lawyer in charge of FEMA. and all that guy did was
roll up his sleeves to appear in front of cameras.


actually...yeah. bush could have sent legislation to the GOP
controlled congress anytime during his term to re-regulate financial
markets that had been deregulated by the paid whore senator phil
gramm, republican of.....ahem...texas.


So could have your butt buddy Bill CLinton. Im curious however..why
hasnt the Democrat Controlled Congress taken care of it before the
meltdown?


?? i'd call you an idiot but you'd have to gain 40 IQ points to reach
that level.

the legislation deregulating the financial services sector was passed
by the GOP senate led by texas senator phil gramm, and signed by our
current president george bush

uh...i'll break it to you gently since you're just coming out of
medication: clinton's not president any more...




but texas boys don't **** each other. and gramm's wife, a board
member of enron, was busy raping the employees of enron as it went
bankrupt.


You sound like you are jealous. Or upset you dont get to **** texas
boys.


i get ****ed by texas boys every day. bush has been president...so to
speak...for 8 years.

look at what happened to olberman on msnbc. he told the truth about
mccain. 15 minutes later, after mccain made a call to NBC, olberman
was off the air.


Like Dan Rather?


uh...i see you're stuck in the clinton era. you need to have the nurse
bring you a paper so you can catch up on current events.




Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.


the USA is having a GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE!!! courtesy of the
republicans!! everything must go!!


Odd...the CBO doesnt think so. Only those suffering the terminal
stages of BDS and their programmers in the DNC make those sort of
bull**** claims.


as i said, when you don't pay people a living wage...as the american
worker is not...and give all the money to CEO's...you can afford to
sell cheap goods.


you're proving my point, republican.

and who was the last president to balance the budget??


a democrat named 'clinton'


ROFLMAO....even CLintons CBO calls him and you a liar. There was NO
balanced budget, you utter ****wit..it was smoke and mirrors with
accounting tricks. In fact..Clinton gave us the recession when he left
that Bush had to pull the country out of when he first took office.


i guess you believe this because the current deficit is larger than
you can count on your fingers and toes even though you have 6 on each
appendage.

you're just too stupid or lazy to look up the biggest deficits since
WWII, aren't you? you just run along like the good GOP lap dog you
are...


Need the cites on that one too?


yeah...go ahead. prove to me that clinton had larger deficits than
reagan or bush. by all means, do so.




You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.


says the guy who thinks republicans wrote the 4 gospels.


Im Buddhist. I dont pay attention to gospels.


ah. you're living in an alternative universe. no wonder you're
clueless.




Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?


too late. the country has already collapsed. better learn chinese, my
friend.


Odd..the chinese are learning English. If the US goes down the
toilet..so will the Chinese..and a big chunk of the rest of the
planet.


that's part of the problem, isn't it? they learn english, and morons
like you don't think you need to learn anything. and the chinese will
be happy to take the US for 10 cents on the dollar. their currency is
so overvalued now, being pegged to the dollar.


On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.


ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.

seems you actually DO believe the GOP is gonna drive us to bankruptcy.
you just hate to admit it.


Ill wave as you shuffle by, carrying your personal possessions in a
cardboard box on your was to a soup kitchen


no wonder you don't see the GOP as a threat. you already live in your
basement on canned food. 4 more years of GOP leadership won't be that
much of a change for you.

wf3h September 16th 08 01:54 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 16, 4:38*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:40:41 -0700 (PDT), wf3h



and how long were we there under the war criminal, republican nixon,
who unleashed the CIA to spy on american citizens? (source: 'the
history of the CIA' by matt weiner)


War criminal? *Cites please, or else be proven a lying cocksucker.


OK read slowly: who is buried in grant's tomb?

do you see the word 'source' above? a clue, republican: that's a
'cite'.


Hummmm....we already know you fit that bill....

Say..hows Ecelon and Carnivore doing these days? *You know..the spying
on US citizens via computer put into place by that war criminal Bill
Clinton?


he learned from the best: the GOP had everything in place to spy on
american citizens years before clinton became president.

A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 01:56 PM

Our economy...
 
wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:


On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.


ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.



Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


wf3h September 16th 08 01:57 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 16, 4:42*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:31:21 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

Lets see..FDR directed both the European and Pacific campaigns eh?


ROFLMAO!! the population of japan was? of germany? the size of the
german and japanese armies?


Your avoidence of answering the question is noted with amusement.


and your comparison of apples and fish is duly noted...with belly
laughs.


Say...what was the ROE in both theaters? *Something about Bomb them
flat, and then bomb them until the rubble bounces?


hmm...you've been sucking down the fiction written by such illustrious
war criminals as paul wolfowitz and other neocons...no nation building
even though the mission can't work without it...just bomb, bomb,
bomb...



hell, man, you don't even know basic history. you probably think john
belushi was a history professor in 'animal house' because he said the
germans bombed pearl harbor.


Sonny...you continue to blither like ...well..the usual run of the
mill preprogrammed Useful Idiot droid turned out by the DNC.


says the knuckle walking mouth breather who believes rumsfeld won the
vietnam war.



wf3h September 16th 08 02:09 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 16, 4:36*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:07:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
Who is mcbush?


god you really are an idiot, aren't you? don't even recognize a slang
term for your pimp.


I dont have a pimp. *Why should I? Unlike your family, no one here are
prostitutes.


you're a republican? you're a hooker...by definition.




ever read alexander kozyrev's article in 'foreign affairs quarterly'?
he was foreign affairs minister *under the last soviet govt.


Yes I have.


uh huh. i'll bet you did.


Prove I didnt, or look the buffoon.


says the man who never heard of kozyrev, and doesnt even know the
article in question...




he said it was ECONOMIC competition, not MILITARY competition that
destroyed the USSR


All those competative foreign exports eh, like AK-74s?


if you can't stand the heat, get the hell out of hiroshima.


Interesting but failed attempt to refute on your part. Rather pathetic
actually.


as i said...no attempt to deal with what the soviet insider
says...just blows it off...similar to mcbush's tactics today about the
collapse of the american economy...since mccain thinks every middle
class household has $5M sitting around...




gee. bush went to war against the taliban with the military that
clinton built. seems we won in a matter of weeks.


Really? Then why did the Leftwingers bitch about no armor, no up
armored vehicles etc etc et?


what they bitched about was the fact we were fighting an insurgency
with an army built to fight the soviets...COMPLETELY different
tactics. and it took YEARS for bush to address the issues. just like
he ignored the need for more troops until he had a great military
revelation:


so they didnt bitch about no body armor, no up armored hummers and so
forth?


yeah. after bush refused to give them what they needed...not unlike
his whole attitude to the war until he fired rumsfeld.


Odd..google calls you a pathetic liar.


you're a liar AND a republican...

but i repeat myself.




HE LOST THE CONGRESSIONAL ELECTIONS OF 2006!! yessirree, bob, it's
hard to fool bush. general shinseki said we needed more troops in
2004. bush fired him.


What congressional elections? *Bush is a member of Congress too???


seems he doesn't know the GOP lost the congressional elections in
2006...typical GOP shill.



it wasn't until forced by POLITICS, not MILITARY strategy that bush
changed course.


Odd..Gen Petrais would disagree with you.


seems he doesn't know rumsfeld was fired the day after the 2006
elections

yep, he's republican all right.




you need someone to refill the air in your head. it's obviously empty.


Commentary from a pathetic liar like yourself, is hardly worth
blinking about.


gee. i was there. you weren't. sorry.


Too bad you arent dead. Then you would actually be worth something to
your family.


i love you too, ya big lug!



war on drugs? you mean the 'lock 'em up and throw away the key'
approach that conservatives have pushed that has led to the US having
more prisoners than any country in the world?


Throw away the key? *Sonny...Im an ex cop. If we had done just
that..we wouldnt be having the problems we do have.
Its called a revolving door.


55% of federal prisoners and 21% of state prisoners are in jail for
non violent drug offenses.


Yes indeed. *And they will be out shortly.


that's because you GOP fanatics are bankrupting the country with your
'war on crime'...

seems like you never arrested many criminals, did you? why not change

your luck and head for 1600 PA evenue: arrest bush.


why arrest Bush? *He hasnt done anything illegal.


and we KNOW that because bush has told us that, right? after all he's
the creep in chief.

he hasn't suspended habeas corpus...WHOOPS!! he did!

he hasn't tortured prisoners...WHOOPS!! he did!! (guess why he never
says mccain was tortured...because we're doing the same thing to our
prisoners that the commie assholes did to mccain).

i love you republicans...you distrust the govt but believe everything
it tells you.

your head spins around more than linda blair's did in the 'exorcist'.

probably because you're possessed.


You on the other
hand are guilty of high mopery, malmish with intent to creep and being
incapable of caring for yourself.


and you're guilty of pretending to be a loyal, patriotic american.
but, don't worry...you're not very good at it.


wf3h September 16th 08 02:14 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 11:39*pm, "Jerry" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...

On Sep 15, 9:20 pm, "Jerry" wrote:


Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win
the
office of President.


Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.


obama grew up in hawaii and went to american schools and college


Obama was BORN in Kenya.


hey brain dead...

obama was born in honolulu. now, i KNOW that, being a republican, you
don't know the difference between hawaii and kenya...

but hawaii is an american state.

by the way, mccain was born in the panama canal zone.

wf3h September 16th 08 02:20 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 11:45*pm, wrote:
On Sep 15, 11:46*pm, wf3h wrote:


Better than putting it in the hands of a foreigner.


i agree. mccain was born in the panama canal zone. he doesn't deserve
to be president...


So you think the children of service men and service women born on USA
military installations overseas are foreigners? *I don't.


nor do i think people born in the US are foreigners...unless, of
course, the constitution has been changed.

given the fact GOP members think the constitution is written in
crayon, you never know.


he wants a hillbilly president.


Who wants a hillbilly president? *Obama? *Squirrelly?

We've recently had a hillbilly president in Bill Clinton.


and he balanced the budget, didn't he. something the intellectual
giant bush never did.


after all, the US doesn't need a
leader who can out think putin, or the chinese or the saudis. all she
has to do is show 'em she can shoot and they'll roll right over.


Obama couldn't think his way out of a wet cardboard box if he didn't
have his earpiece in.


no...sorry...he's not a republican.

which is incorrect. obama authored the bill to find and clean up
weapons of mass destruction in russia...


Wow! *He authored a bill? *A real bill? *A real USA law that will be a
real law in Russia??? *How does that happen?


and what has mccain done in 26 years?

nothing. basically zip. a few bills here and there...nothing of
note...he's done about the same as obama

it just took him 26 years to do it.

wf3h September 16th 08 02:21 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 16, 5:04*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:46:13 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

tactical experience, speaks no other languages, no military experience,
and wants to burn library books based upon her religion?


You've described Obama.


he wants a hillbilly president. after all, the US doesn't need a
leader who can out think putin, or the chinese or the saudis.


We already had one. Clintons terms ended on Jan 7, 2001


and he balanced the budget and didn't try to lose a war like the
current president did.

[email protected] September 16th 08 02:21 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 16, 9:14*am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 11:39*pm, "Jerry" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message


....


On Sep 15, 9:20 pm, "Jerry" wrote:


Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win
the
office of President.


Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.


obama grew up in hawaii and went to american schools and college


Obama was BORN in Kenya.


hey brain dead...

obama was born in honolulu. now, i KNOW that, being a republican, you
don't know the difference between hawaii and kenya...

but hawaii is an american state.

by the way, mccain was born in the panama canal zone.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey Bob. Don't you have anything better to do than sit here and play
with the trolls? Why don't you go to a political board, unless of
course you can't keep up? Either way, juvenile insults and
intellectually dishonest talking points seem a little lame for you,
you have been here for a long time, what's the deal?

wf3h September 16th 08 02:22 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
On Sep 15, 11:39*pm, "Jerry" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...

On Sep 15, 9:20 pm, "Jerry" wrote:


Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win
the
office of President.


Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.


obama grew up in hawaii and went to american schools and college


Obama was BORN in Kenya.


when did honolulu become part of kenya? because obama was born in
honolulu

OOOOHHH...i get it. you're republican. you think hawaii is IN
kenya...
that explains it.

A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 02:33 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
wrote:
On Sep 16, 9:14 am, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 15, 11:39 pm, "Jerry" wrote:





"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 15, 9:20 pm, "Jerry" wrote:
Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win
the
office of President.
Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.
obama grew up in hawaii and went to american schools and college
Obama was BORN in Kenya.

hey brain dead...

obama was born in honolulu. now, i KNOW that, being a republican, you
don't know the difference between hawaii and kenya...

but hawaii is an american state.

by the way, mccain was born in the panama canal zone.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hey Bob. Don't you have anything better to do than sit here and play
with the trolls? Why don't you go to a political board, unless of
course you can't keep up? Either way, juvenile insults and
intellectually dishonest talking points seem a little lame for you,
you have been here for a long time, what's the deal?



This is hilarious...JustWaitaLoogy, one of the foulest of the
foul-mouthed insulters in rec.boats, is calling someone else out for
behaving better than he does!

Here's a hint, Justwaitaloogy, maybe he's not interested in
kiddieabusemotorcycle racing,



A Boater[_2_] September 16th 08 02:54 PM

I'm voting republican because...
 
wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 11:39 pm, "Jerry" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...

On Sep 15, 9:20 pm, "Jerry" wrote:
Palin will be running for Vice President, but since you mention "running
America", let's do some comparisons against someone who is trying to win
the
office of President.
Firstly, being born in Kenya and going to school in a Madrasah is hardly
the
kind of foreign exposure I would like in a President. On the other hand,
Sarah Palin has a foreign exposure out of her west facing window.
obama grew up in hawaii and went to american schools and college
Obama was BORN in Kenya.

when did honolulu become part of kenya? because obama was born in
honolulu

OOOOHHH...i get it. you're republican. you think hawaii is IN
kenya...
that explains it.


I wonder if Palin can see Kenya from her house?



Only while on the tanning bed.


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