"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Sep 13, 11:36 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message

...
On Sep 13, 1:07 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:





hk wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wf3h wrote:

: :
: :c'mon harry...don't you have the $5,000,000 that mccain says makes
: :you middle class?
: :
:
: I think that's a great level at which to say taxes shouldn't be
: increased.
:
: You WANT to pay more taxes? I think we need a program that lets you
: folks pick your own tax rate and not steal from the rest of us...
:
:
:I think anyone with income of more than $5 million a year ought to be
aying twice the amount of taxes they're paying now.
:

Why?

--

why not? the largest increase in marginal tax rates occurs on the
middle class. the wealthy get a tax rate of 15% on capital gains
(which is alot less than the middle class pays) AND gets to write off
losses. they get the best of all worlds.

Same 15% you get to pay on capitol gains.

EXACTLY!!! gee even YOU get it!! thank you!!

the BIG difference is that NONE of my income is from capital gains!!
how much of middle class income do you think comes from capital gains?
that's EXACTLY why the rich set up this system...so they wouldnt have
to pay taxes, knowing full well that most of THEIR income is from
capital gains, while middle class income comes from actually WORKING
for a living

They have left the investment
untouched for a long period of time. And those capitol gains can only be
written off up to the the capitol losses + $1000.

my heart bleeds for them.

Huge part of the middle class gets the benifits of Capitol gains taxes.
Fact is, everybody gets the bennies. If you invest in a business or stock
ownership, and do not day trade, you get the benifit. And most of the
middle class is invested in the stock market one way of the other. Plus the
point of capitol gains is to get CAPITOL invested. All those jobs created
in the last at least 1000 years are from some person investing capitol and
time in a business. I owned a business at one time and the employees were
very happy to have a job and get a paycheck each week. I and my buddy
invested $50k and a lot of time in the business. I think the employees made
more per hour then we did. I could have put that in a long term CD and made
+10-12% (was the Carter years), but we gambled that we could get a better
return on starting a business. Maybe you should invest in the stock market.
May be able to move out of the lowest tax bracket. As to Obama saying he is
going to cut taxes for 95% of the people. Impossible. Only 45% pay income
tax in the first place. You have to elect legislators who do not waste
money. And the Republicans with the help of the Dem's over 7 of the last 8
years have wasted lots. The Dem's in charge of the checkbook the last year,
and they have not slowed down waste. 40 of the last 50 years have been
Dem's in charge of the checkbook. They have not done well.

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.


You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for some
major "Changes".

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.


You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for some
major "Changes".

Eisboch


Damn! did it again. I sure wish the "a" hole that started this cross
posting .... hadn't.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.


You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some major "Changes".

Eisboch


Damn! did it again. I sure wish the "a" hole that started this cross
posting .... hadn't.

Eisboch


But is at least more interesting than the Cut and Paste the "a" hole that
started this cross posting posts.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some major "Changes".

Eisboch

Damn! did it again. I sure wish the "a" hole that started this cross
posting .... hadn't.

Eisboch


But is at least more interesting than the Cut and Paste the "a" hole that
started this cross posting posts.




Yugo, Zell.

"hk" wrote in message
. ..
Calif Bill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some major "Changes".

Eisboch

Damn! did it again. I sure wish the "a" hole that started this cross
posting .... hadn't.

Eisboch


But is at least more interesting than the Cut and Paste the "a" hole
that started this cross posting posts.


Yugo, Zell.

Talking about holes.

On Sep 14, 3:03*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Calif Bill" wrote in message

...



*As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. *Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.


you're a socialist. why are you opposed to him being one?

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.


You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for some
major "Changes".

Eisboch

I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In case you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere else.

Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for some
major "Changes".

Eisboch

I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In case you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere else.

I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch

I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere else.

I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.

I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How much of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think? 50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for this
"war".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/wo...rssnyt&emc=rss