wf3h wrote:


then, pray tell, why are virtually no students admitted to ivy league
schools from working class families? what do you do with places like
findlay, ohio, or pittsburgh that are wiped out by corporate
abandoment?

I hate to tell you, but Ivy League schools are FULL of middle class
families. My father, definitely working class went to Yale, myself and
my son are definitely middle class graduated from Columbia. Since the
60's, Ivy League schools don't discriminate due to income, and the
economic demographics of an Ivy League school represent the economic
demographics of America. Ivy League schools will actually give working
and poor students academic considerations they don't give to middle
class and above students to make sure they do have a balanced class.
Sure there are many wealthy at the schools, but the middle class,
working class and below are the majority of those attending Ivy League
today. Starting 2 years after my son started school, all admitting
freshman whose family income was below $75,000 got a 100% scholarship.

Your understanding of Ivy League schools is a complete as your
understanding of world economics.


This will, by default,
further classify us, average us, and take away the incentives of individual
initiative. In other words, another giant step towards socialism.

I am firmly convinced that Obama is an unannounced socialist, BTW.

well, then...you and he have something in common, because, so are you.

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch

I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere else.

I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.

I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How much of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think? 50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for this
"war".

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/wo...rssnyt&emc=rss

Roy Blankenship wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.
You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch
I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere else.
I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.

I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
a
href="http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/72/How-Much-Does-Nation-Spend-on-Welfare.html"How
Much Does the Nation Spend on Welfare? - Public Aid, State Expenditures
For Social Welfare, Private Welfare Expenditures, Welfare-reform
Legislation/a

You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How much of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think? 50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for this
"war".

I would rather that my money only go to constitutionally mandated
expenditures.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/06/wo...rssnyt&emc=rss

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.
You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he
is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch
I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In
case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere
else.
I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.

I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
a

href="http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/72/How-Much-Does-Nation-Spend-on-Wel
fare.html"How
Much Does the Nation Spend on Welfare? - Public Aid, State Expenditures
For Social Welfare, Private Welfare Expenditures, Welfare-reform
Legislation/a

You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are
trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How much
of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think?
50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country
has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for
this
"war".

I would rather that my money only go to constitutionally mandated
expenditures.

Thankfully, selfish pricks like you are a minority in this country. Get over
yourself.

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 06:16:40 -0700, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 14, 12:03*am, Curly Surmudgeon wrote:


Precisely, everyone should pay an equal tax.

'equal' does not necessarily mean 'fair'. you were right the 1st time:
everyone should pay a fair tax

*Any disparity, any
exclusion, deduction, exemption, credit, or dependency allowance creates
special interests and an inequity.

that's true. and we, as a society, have decided that things like raising
kinds, health insurance, having a viable middle class, are values that we
want to promote via having them as special interests. and that is fair.

Via legalized theft. Do not expect the victim to remain passively silent.

--
Regards, Curly
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Roy Blankenship wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.
You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he
is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch
I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In
case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere
else.
I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.
I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
a

href="http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/72/How-Much-Does-Nation-Spend-on-Wel
fare.html"How
Much Does the Nation Spend on Welfare? - Public Aid, State Expenditures
For Social Welfare, Private Welfare Expenditures, Welfare-reform
Legislation/a

You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are
trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How much
of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think?
50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country
has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for
this
"war".
I would rather that my money only go to constitutionally mandated
expenditures.

Thankfully, selfish pricks like you are a minority in this country. Get over
yourself.

You are free to give your money to any one or any organization you
choose. Why won't you extend me the same courtesy?

"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message
m...

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.
You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he
is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in
for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch
I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen
for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In
case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere
else.
I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.

I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
a

href="http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/72/How-Much-Does-Nation-Spend-on-Wel
fare.html"How
Much Does the Nation Spend on Welfare? - Public Aid, State Expenditures
For Social Welfare, Private Welfare Expenditures, Welfare-reform
Legislation/a

You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are
trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How
much
of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think?
50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country
has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for
this
"war".

I would rather that my money only go to constitutionally mandated
expenditures.

Thankfully, selfish pricks like you are a minority in this country. Get
over
yourself.


He can't.
Ask Bertie (BAR) how much money he makes. He'll boast & brag about that at
the drop of a hat.

Don White wrote:
"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message
m...
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Roy Blankenship wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.
You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he
is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in
for
some
major "Changes".

Eisboch
I hope so. Anything would be better than the bull**** we have seen
for
the
last 8 years that, evidently, dumbasses like you have supported. In
case
you
have been blindered by the propaganda, Bush has made every effort to
make
our republic into a dictatorship. Try your fear tactics somewhere
else.
I guess personal responsibility and self sufficiency is lost on a
majority of the US population. Soft and lazy and always with your hand
out for another crumb from the government.
I totally disagree. If you looked at the real numbers spent on social
welfare, it amounts to 3 B2 bombers.
a

href="http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/72/How-Much-Does-Nation-Spend-on-Wel
fare.html"How
Much Does the Nation Spend on Welfare? - Public Aid, State Expenditures
For Social Welfare, Private Welfare Expenditures, Welfare-reform
Legislation/a

You only believe what you wrote because people with hate agendas are
trying
to point the finger at someone so you have a place to focus your anger
instead of realizing the government is the one ripping YOU off. How
much
of
your tax money goes to feeding kids every month? What would you think?
50
cents? A dollar? And you think that is an issue? Our "great" country
has
been brought to its knees by whom? Poor people? Meanwhile, the Iraqi
government has a surplus of cash, yet we are still footing the bill for
this
"war".
I would rather that my money only go to constitutionally mandated
expenditures.
Thankfully, selfish pricks like you are a minority in this country. Get
over
yourself.


He can't.
Ask Bertie (BAR) how much money he makes. He'll boast & brag about that at
the drop of a hat.




But...he won't actually tell you the amount... :)
Not that anyone gives a ****.

Bertie is a selfisb, "I've got mine, screw you" Republican gasbag, just
like his golf buddy, Herring.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...

As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.


You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some major "Changes".

Eisboch


Damn! did it again. I sure wish the "a" hole that started this cross
posting .... hadn't.

Eisboch


But is at least more interesting than the Cut and Paste the "a" hole that
started this cross posting posts.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
...
As to Obama saying he is going to cut taxes for 95% of the people.
Impossible. Only 45% pay income tax in the first place.

You just said a mouthful.

He's really describing another form of government, namely Socialism.

All his speeches, writings and comments drip of the signals. If he is
elected and the Dems truly get control of the Congress, we are in for
some major "Changes".

Eisboch

Damn! did it again. I sure wish the "a" hole that started this cross
posting .... hadn't.

Eisboch


But is at least more interesting than the Cut and Paste the "a" hole that
started this cross posting posts.




Yugo, Zell.