wf3h wrote:

:On Sep 13, 1:07*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: hk wrote:
: :Fred J. McCall wrote:
: : wf3h wrote:
:
: : :
: : :c'mon *harry...don't you have the $5,000,000 that mccain says makes
: : :you middle class?
: : :
: :
: : I think that's a great level at which to say taxes shouldn't be
: : increased.
: :
: : You WANT to pay more taxes? *I think we need a program that lets you
: : folks pick your own tax rate and not steal from the rest of us...
: :
: :
: :I think anyone with income of more than $5 million a year ought to be
: aying twice the amount of taxes they're paying now.
: :
:
: Why?
:
:
:why not? the largest increase in marginal tax rates occurs on the
:middle class. the wealthy get a tax rate of 15% on capital gains
which is alot less than the middle class pays) AND gets to write off
:losses. they get the best of all worlds.
:

And you think their only income is capital gains? You REALLY need to
learn something about money.

And 'why not' is the stupidest reason to do something imaginable.

Hey, why not just keep slaves? Or why not rent the poor out as game
animals for canned hunts?

Why not?

--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn

wf3h wrote:

:On Sep 13, 7:46*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:the poor?"
: :
:
: And the answer is "they shouldn't". *Income tax should essentially be
: like a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the
: income ONCE).
:
:nope. won't work. the middle class has certain basic expenses that
:consume a far larger portion of their income versus the extremely
:wealthy. a flat tax would decrease the viability of the middle class
:

Nonsense. Of course it would work. The middle class would probably
even get to pay less than they pay now.

ANY taxation scheme can be made to work, including the rather
preposterous Rube Goldbergery we operate under now.

Where do people get the idea that the wealthy apparently just sit on
their money or bury it or some such silliness?

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less remote from the
truth who believes nothing than he who believes what is wrong."
-- Thomas Jefferson

wf3h wrote:

:On Sep 13, 12:44*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote:
: wf3h wrote:
:
: :On Sep 13, 12:43*am, "Calif Bill" wrote:: "wf3h" wrote in message
:
: :
: ...
: : On Sep 12, 9:55 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
: :
: : which she inherited. unlike mccain, i've worked for everything i have.
: : that's why mccain wants to take what i have and give it to his rich
: : buddies. he, like all republicans, hates the middle class.
: :
: : Maybe you should have become a gigolo. *Then your jealousy would not rear
: : it's ugly head.-
: :
: :and mebbe members of the GOP should quit lecturing people on the moral
: :superiority of the rich.
: :
:
: And maybe you should stop lying about things that never happened.
:
:
:you mean mccain's not a gigolo?
:
:when did he get an honest job?
:

You know, you really are far too stupid to bother with. I can see a
lot of idiots are going to need to be binned over the next 90 days...

plonk

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

:On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:51:23 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: Curly Surmudgeon wrote: :
: :What does orientation or sexual preference have to do with McCain's
: lies? :
: :
: What lies would those be?
:
on't play stupid, you know very well.
:

It's a sure sign that any time anyone tells you "and you know it" or
something similar that they have no support for their own position and
aren't worth bothering with further.

Congratulations on your intellectual dishonesty.

plonk

--
"False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the
soul with evil."
-- Socrates

frank wrote:
:
:Bull****. Take a decent economics course, if they offer any anymore.
:

I have a degree in the field, Frank. You're an idiot.

:
:Progressive income tax with higher rates for richest is the way to go.
:Flat tax is worst on the poor. Hell everybody agreed on that until
:these stupid Republicans under Reagan took over.
:

Wrong. Progressive taxes are the MOST distortive to market forces.
Flat taxes distort the least and hence are the way to go.

If 'everyone agreed' until Reagan, why did JFK make taxes much less
regressive (and thereby stimulate both the economy and government tax
receipts)?

:
:You know under Eisenhower, tax rate was 91% for some of the highest
:brackets?
:

Yes, and you know JFK changed that because it was ****ing up the
economy so badly, right?

:
:You know some of them actually complained to the Treasury
:Secretary, and his response was, pay your damn taxes, you can afford
:it. You are gaining the largess due to what this country provides for
:you. From infrastructure to safe means to park your funds.
:

Cite? I think you're lying again.

:
:The only people advocating a flat tax are the super rich who would
:make a killing on it
:

You're lying again.

:
its only income and they would not count
:investments as income).
:

You're lying again.

:
:Why the hell is Forbes so gung ho on it?
:

Because he actually understand what you do not; non-flat taxes on
income distort the economy.

:
:To
:help the middle class? Hell no. He has no clue how you live. Neither
:does McCain or his wife. Anybody got a quarter mil earrings for the
:wife lately? Thought not. Well, you can thank the Reagan / Bush tax
:cuts for them getting richer and richer and ****ing away more than
:you'd pay on a house for ear candy.
:

Jealousy is SO ugly, Frank. You and your "eat the rich; the poor are
tough and stringy" crowd make me nauseous. Where do you think the
jobs come from?

:
:Look at how many people are millionaires or billionaires. And how many
:Americans have lost their jobs or houses? These tax cuts are killing
:the US
:

Now go look at who is paying the taxes, Frank...

--
"Ordinarily he is insane. But he has lucid moments when he is
only stupid."
-- Heinrich Heine

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:20:58 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:

Curly Surmudgeon wrote:

:On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 17:51:23 -0700, Fred J. McCall wrote:
:
: Curly Surmudgeon wrote: :
: :What does orientation or sexual preference have to do with McCain's
: lies? :
: :
: What lies would those be?
:
on't play stupid, you know very well.
:
:
It's a sure sign that any time anyone tells you "and you know it" or
something similar that they have no support for their own position and
aren't worth bothering with further.

Congratulations on your intellectual dishonesty.

plonk

Couldn't contradict the evidence, ha! Notice that Fred snipped 264 lines
of research disproving his diversions and denials.

--
Regards, Curly
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Baba Wawa acted like her servants delivered her cold coffee or
something. What a maroon.



she acted like the lournalist she used to be and asked tough questions
and
she refused to accept pat bull**** answers



The View, home of great journalism??? Sorry, but when I hear make dumb
as comments about Slavery from Whoopi, you lose all credibilty. Those
hags have a agenda as left as yours......

What are you, in 8th grade? Barbara Walters has had a lifetime of careers,
unlike your one stop at the fry counter. Shut up until your masters tell
you
to sit up and beg.



whoppi was making a pouint about originalism and strict constructionism.

"Curly Surmudgeon" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:53:23 -0700, wf3h wrote:

On Sep 13, 7:46 pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: the poor?"
:
:
And the answer is "they shouldn't". Income tax should essentially be
like a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the
income ONCE).

nope. won't work. the middle class has certain basic expenses that
consume
a far larger portion of their income versus the extremely wealthy. a flat
tax would decrease the viability of the middle class

Fair is the only system that does work.


define fair.

On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 22:00:23 -0700, Fred J. McCall
wrote:

S
Taxes based on income should be flat. They distort the economy the
least that way and allow it to function closer to its optimum levels.

That, of course, is a religious statement, devoid of proof and
unprovable.


Peter Skelton

On Sep 13, 11:01*pm, Curly Surmudgeon
wrote:
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008 20:53:23 -0700, wf3h wrote:
On Sep 13, 7:46*pm, Fred J. McCall wrote: the poor?"
:
:
And the answer is "they shouldn't". *Income tax should essentially be
like a tithe; everyone pays the same percentage (and you only tax the
income ONCE).

nope. won't work. the middle class has certain basic expenses that consume
a far larger portion of their income versus the extremely wealthy. a flat
tax would decrease the viability of the middle class

Fair is the only system that does work.

--


agreed. that's why a progressive tax is more fair than a flat tax.