Final EPA specs for new emission control requirements on boats. Gasoline
engine requirements take effect on new boats in 2010.
Some diesel requirements take effect this year.

Buy now and avoid the rush.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/marinesi.htm

Eisboch

On Sep 9, 9:29*am, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:13:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Final EPA specs for new emission control requirements on boats. * Gasoline
engine requirements take effect on new boats in 2010.
Some diesel requirements take effect this year.

Buy now and avoid the rush.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/marinesi.htm

Eisboch

I wonder how this compares to the emission standards they already have
for four strokes. I know my 4 stroke seems a lot cleaner than the
classic 2 strokes if the smell and lack of smoke is any indication.

Really, just like the vehicle standards.. I hear adds for these new
hybreds and "fuel efficient" cars that get 22-24 mpg.. Crap, most of
my old cars and trucks from the 70's and 80's could do thatl

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On Sep 9, 9:29 am, wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:13:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Final EPA specs for new emission control requirements on boats. Gasoline
engine requirements take effect on new boats in 2010.
Some diesel requirements take effect this year.

Buy now and avoid the rush.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/marinesi.htm

Eisboch

I wonder how this compares to the emission standards they already have
for four strokes. I know my 4 stroke seems a lot cleaner than the
classic 2 strokes if the smell and lack of smoke is any indication.

Really, just like the vehicle standards.. I hear adds for these new
hybreds and "fuel efficient" cars that get 22-24 mpg.. Crap, most of
my old cars and trucks from the 70's and 80's could do thatl

I believe that is big hybrid suvs that previous got mileage in the teens.
Few vehicles from the 60s and 70s approached the size of someof the trucks
and suvs today. It's funny to see a 30 year old full size truck next to a
Tundra double cab. The Tundra dwarfs it. The smaller hybrids get mileage
that nothing form the 70s or 80s even approached. My wife's department has
hybrid prius that she recently took to DC from Raleigh on a trip. It
averaged way over 40 mpg overall. That's including the highway portion of
the trip where you would expect a hybrid to not do better than conventional
engines.

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On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:13:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Final EPA specs for new emission control requirements on boats. Gasoline
engine requirements take effect on new boats in 2010.
Some diesel requirements take effect this year.

Buy now and avoid the rush.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/marinesi.htm

Eisboch

I wonder how this compares to the emission standards they already have
for four strokes. I know my 4 stroke seems a lot cleaner than the
classic 2 strokes if the smell and lack of smoke is any indication.

I think you are going to see catalytic converters to meet the new emission
standards. Even small lawn mower engines will have them.

Eisboch

On Sep 9, 9:40*am, wrote:
On Sep 9, 9:29*am, wrote:

On Tue, 9 Sep 2008 08:13:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Final EPA specs for new emission control requirements on boats. * Gasoline
engine requirements take effect on new boats in 2010.
Some diesel requirements take effect this year.

Buy now and avoid the rush.

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/marinesi.htm

Eisboch

I wonder how this compares to the emission standards they already have
for four strokes. I know my 4 stroke seems a lot cleaner than the
classic 2 strokes if the smell and lack of smoke is any indication.

Really, just like the vehicle standards.. I hear adds for these new
hybreds and "fuel efficient" cars that get 22-24 mpg.. Crap, most of
my old cars and trucks from the 70's and 80's could do thatl

Not mine! But then again, I went for horsepower and usually had my
foot trying to push throught the firewall.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:05:52 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


I think you are going to see catalytic converters to meet the new
emission standards. Even small lawn mower engines will have them.

Eisboch

Might be a fire hazard on lawn mowers. Those catalytic converters are
quite hot. Still, lawn mowers are quite dirty by today's standards.

"The 20,000,000 small engines sold in the U.S. each year contribute about
one tenth of the total U.S. mobile source hydrocarbon emissions, and are
the largest single contributor to these non-road emissions."

http://www.mindfully.org/Air/Lawn-Mower-Pollution.htm

On Sep 9, 11:05*am, wrote:
On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:05:52 -0400, Eisboch wrote:
I think you are going to see catalytic converters to meet the new
emission standards. * Even small lawn mower engines will have them.

Eisboch

Might be a fire hazard on lawn mowers. *Those catalytic converters are
quite hot. *

I seen a house burned to the ground because they were having a family
reunion and parked in the grass. One parked in the deep grass and
caught it on fire.

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:14:35 -0400, wrote:

I used to autocross using highly modified Fiat 600's, among other
cars. In stock form, with 27 screaming horsepower, they cruised on the
highway at 55 mph and 60 mpg. Accelerating from zero to 60, however
took about two days.

That's the advantage of the hybrid. When you need extra power for
acceleration, the electric kicks in.

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On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:05:52 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


I think you are going to see catalytic converters to meet the new
emission standards. Even small lawn mower engines will have them.

Eisboch

Might be a fire hazard on lawn mowers. Those catalytic converters are
quite hot. Still, lawn mowers are quite dirty by today's standards.

"The 20,000,000 small engines sold in the U.S. each year contribute about
one tenth of the total U.S. mobile source hydrocarbon emissions, and are
the largest single contributor to these non-road emissions."

http://www.mindfully.org/Air/Lawn-Mower-Pollution.htm


Check this out. You may have to retrofit your current lawnmower with a
catalytic converter.

http://lawn-mowers.gardeningtipsnide...onverters.html

Eisboch

On Sep 9, 11:56*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:05:52 -0400, Eisboch wrote:

I think you are going to see catalytic converters to meet the new
emission standards. * Even small lawn mower engines will have them.

Eisboch

Might be a fire hazard on lawn mowers. *Those catalytic converters are
quite hot. *Still, lawn mowers are quite dirty by today's standards.

"The 20,000,000 small engines sold in the U.S. each year contribute about
one tenth of the total U.S. mobile source hydrocarbon emissions, and are
the largest single contributor to these non-road emissions."

http://www.mindfully.org/Air/Lawn-Mower-Pollution.htm

Check this out. *You may have to retrofit your current lawnmower with a
catalytic converter.

http://lawn-mowers.gardeningtipsnide..._mower_catalyt...

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Looks like I'll have to put the muffler back on my lawn tractor, too!