On Sep 7, 4:12*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
Had enough folks - I'm unsubscribing - probably until after the New
Year.

To tell the truth, probably not even then - too much to do and I've
taken on a huge new professional responsibility which is also going to
take up a lot of time.

Y'all take care.

See 'ya around.

Sorry to see yo take off pal. I'd like to knwo a bit more about your
"new professional responsibility" though.

Later on, Tom.

"hk" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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I won't dispute that Tom knows something about boats, but I will dispute
that I drove him off. He was tossing insults with the best of him, and
apparently only got ****ed when I deigned to question his "superior"
knowledge in areas where it wasn't.



I don't know Tom well, but I have met him a couple of times. One thing
I know for sure though .... Tom doesn't get "driven off" by anybody,
especially someone like you who thinks he is the de facto king of
rec.boats.

But, Harry, you display the lowest form of hypocritical BS to be found
here. Tom agreed to mind the store at Chuck's Island for a while and
simply insisted that Chuck's forum rules be respected. Contrary to your
claims in rec.boats, you were the worst offender of the rules with
snarky, poorly veiled insults directed at others, in direct violation of
Chuck's requests. Tom had a level of control over things and your ego
just couldn't deal with that.

You became so frustrated, the "Brownie" comments and insults started.
Christ, anybody with a 5th grade education could follow this cute little
display. I suspect that part of your problem is dealing with the fact
that Tom's IQ is probably 30 or 40 points higher than yours, another fact
that your inflated ego just can't handle.

It's fine to disagree about transom heights. But it's wrong to insult,
call names and, when you get really, really frustrated simply employ your
childish "ESAD" comment. You really are a piece of work. Or sick.
Seriously.

Eisboch





Yawn. Tom had control over the kill switch, that's all. He may be the
worst moderator I have ever encountered. He handled Chuck's place like
Brownie handled the aftermath of Katrina.

Your buddy Tom spent about a year insulting my boat. He got a couple of
weeks of it back, and he folded his tent.

I don't know what Tom's IQ is, nor do I care. I have noticed though, that
when he is questioned, he gets mad.



Get help Harry. Seriously. Before you self-destruct.

Nobody with the level of education or experience that you claim to have
would write those paragraphs (above).

Eisboch

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

The only thing that will help this ng is if harry leaves... period. Another
option is for *everyone* to filter him out. If you don't see his posts, you
can't respond to him... it's that easy. However, some people feel the need
to "defend themselves" and as such will not filter him, so the cycle
continues. I see none of his political garbage... until someone resonds to
him. That sucks.

Try it, you'll like it. harry is a sick individual, and will not, or cannot,
stop. He needs help.

--Mike

"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

On Sep 7, 8:36*pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

"jim" wrote in message
...
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.



A strictly adhered to filter regiment might work, but many, including me,
get sucked back into discussions by quoted references. I am willing to try
to totally ignore, if that is the consensus.

My concern, in the case of Harry, is that if he runs out of people to insult
or listen to his politics, he would just crosspost in an attempt to
encourage and draw in new blood. Hell, he has already acknowledged that.

Gene's algorithm obviously does not fix the problem. It is a great idea,
intended to eliminate OT, but it obviously has holes.

One of the historical issues is that "rec.boats" does not have a charter to
fall back upon as a reference for conformity of topic or conduct. It's the
original boating newsgroup and was started without benefit of a published
charter. There is an old "FAQ" list, but no official charter.

This is not to say that a charter guaranties civility or even helps, but
"rec.boats" lacks a reference for conduct.

The problem is not unique to rec.boats however. Virtually all of the
unmoderated NGs I've read suffer from the same problems prevalent here. It
seems like every one has it's own "Harry".

Eisboch

On Sun, 7 Sep 2008 17:56:35 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sep 7, 8:36*pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

Comments like that do not help Scott.

On Sun, 07 Sep 2008 20:36:51 -0400, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

Send me a PM or an email.

wrote in message
...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:
It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

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I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

On Sep 7, 9:13*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Sep 7, 8:36 pm, jim wrote:

It's so sad to see Tom leave.

There must be something we can do to keep this NG alive.

A strict filtering regimin to eliminate Krause and any one else who
exhibits similar behavior could work.

Would anyone like to share any ideas to fix this NG? We could conference
over at Chucks via PM if he will allow it. Or maybe we could do it via
email.

We can. It almost happened before when the ones of us left completely
ignored him. We could do it again but then he gets crazy and makes
some sock puppets or a thinly veiled troll having to do with boats.. I
say everyone should have one respons to anything he says, a dot and
the words screw off. No matter what he says... Shun anybody stupid
enough to engage him, and just let him go...

-------------------------------------------------------------
I would suggest forgetting even the Chucky dots or *any* comment.
To use them acknowledges presence of the offending poster.

Eisboch

Ok, but there might be some kind of block statement that we can post
to get his posts down, and let everyone know what the deal is...