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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:36:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least 5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in. The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for any long distance, hauling of a boat that size. Thank you. |
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On Jul 30, 12:36 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck. I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough. A 29' boat with a F-150? Are you serious? Eisboch Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the truck" ...remember? (snarky remark you made discussing Vipers, and the T-10 Engine) My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer. It also launches, and recovers it as well. Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your foot in it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least 5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in. The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for any long distance, hauling of a boat that size. Eisboch I pull a 23 ft. Marquis cuddy on a dual axle trailer with a 1990 Merc. Colony Park Station wagon. fuel enjected 302 (5.0). The trailer has good hydrological surge brakes. I won't say that it's all it can do to pull the boat but it's enough for it. Shifting out of OD and no air, it will pull the boat at 50-55, but yes, it sucks plenty of gas, I would say that at 50mph it will possibly get 8, maybe 10 mpg....*maybe* I would say that your f-150 WILL pull that 29 footer, but conveniently? No, and economically, HECK NO! |
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On Jul 30, 12:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message ... The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150 brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant.. Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better. JR On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote: I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a 29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep ramp"? Any thoughts? ![]() HOME PAGE: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth -------------------------------------------------- Here's the boat this guy wants to tow ..... http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty truck. Eisboch Yep. They need a bigger truck! |
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Tim wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote: "JR North" wrote in message ... The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150 brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant.. Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better. JR On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote: I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a 29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep ramp"? Any thoughts? ![]() HOME PAGE: http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth -------------------------------------------------- Here's the boat this guy wants to tow ..... http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty truck. Eisboch Yep. They need a bigger truck! You gotta be outa your mind these days to even consider buying one of those "penis boats," let alone be thinking of trailering it. |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:10:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Jul 30, 12:36 am, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck. I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough. A 29' boat with a F-150? Are you serious? Eisboch Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the truck" ...remember? (snarky remark you made discussing Vipers, and the T-10 Engine) My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer. It also launches, and recovers it as well. Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your foot in it. It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least 5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in. The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for any long distance, hauling of a boat that size. Eisboch I pull a 23 ft. Marquis cuddy on a dual axle trailer with a 1990 Merc. Colony Park Station wagon. fuel enjected 302 (5.0). The trailer has good hydrological surge brakes. I won't say that it's all it can do to pull the boat but it's enough for it. Shifting out of OD and no air, it will pull the boat at 50-55, but yes, it sucks plenty of gas, I would say that at 50mph it will possibly get 8, maybe 10 mpg....*maybe* I would say that your f-150 WILL pull that 29 footer, but conveniently? No, and economically, HECK NO! Mine will pull it - the question is safely. Everybody has pretty much hit on the main points including braking, but the 5.4 is so emissions laden that it has no power at all - none. Biggest mistakek I made was buying that truck. |
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On Jul 29, 7:35*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:16:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: wrote in message ... Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck. I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough. A 29' boat with a F-150? Are you serious? He can't be. Oh, he can be! You've not seen some of his other gems!!! |
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On Jul 29, 9:59*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote: I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a 29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep ramp"? *Any thoughts? * ![]() In my opinion, no. I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at just over 5,000 lbs. *I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing just last week and the average speed was 50 mph. Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck. Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when *I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too. Of *course it does. You are the master. Well, that's what the gauge sez when I tow, Tom. I'll be glad to introduce you...you and the gauge can argue over it.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - How about when you tow your lobster boat, liar? |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:31:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote: I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing just last week and the average speed was 50 mph. Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck. Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too. Of course it does. You are the master. My old 24 ft cuddy cabin runabout weighed a little over 5,000 lbs, 6300 lbs with aluminum trailer. We trailered it 1400 miles from CT to FL behind my 4.7L V8 Tundra, averaging 9 mph at interstate highway speeds of 65 to 70 mph. |
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:43:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
Here's the boat this guy wants to tow ..... http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty truck. The real question is how much does the boat and trailer weigh vs the max tow rating of the truck. That triple axle, steel frame trailer is not a good start, probably close to 2,000 lbs all by itself. For a boat to require triple axles probably implies a weight over 6,000 giving us a total somewhere north of 8,000. That's too much for a light duty truck. |
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