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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:36:32 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.


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On Jul 30, 12:36 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

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Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.

Eisboch


I pull a 23 ft. Marquis cuddy on a dual axle trailer with a 1990 Merc.
Colony Park Station wagon. fuel enjected 302 (5.0). The trailer has
good hydrological surge brakes.

I won't say that it's all it can do to pull the boat but it's enough
for it. Shifting out of OD and no air, it will pull the boat at 50-55,
but yes, it sucks plenty of gas, I would say that at 50mph it will
possibly get 8, maybe 10 mpg....*maybe*

I would say that your f-150 WILL pull that 29 footer, but
conveniently? No, and economically, HECK NO!
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On Jul 30, 12:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR


On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:


I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a
29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts?

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Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.

Eisboch


Yep.

They need a bigger truck!
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Tim wrote:
On Jul 30, 12:43 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message

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The tow vehicle brake system must be able to stop the rig in a
reasonable distance in the event of trailer brake failure. An F150
brake system is NOT-REPEAT NOT adequate for this setup. Whether or not
it can pull the boat out of the hole (also doubtful) is irrelevant..
Get a real truck. F250 minimum., F350 better.
JR
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:
I have a 2002 Ford F-150. 5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. I'm looking at a
29' Cheetah offshore (CX-29). I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? Any thoughts?
HOME PAGE:
http://www.seanet.com/~jasonrnorth
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Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.

Eisboch


Yep.

They need a bigger truck!



You gotta be outa your mind these days to even consider buying one of
those "penis boats," let alone be thinking of trailering it.


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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:10:58 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Jul 30, 12:36 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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On Jul 29, 7:16 pm, "Eisboch" wrote:

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Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


Eisboch


Yes. Remember that I " wash the trucks as they come of the
truck" ...remember?
(snarky remark you made discussing
Vipers, and the T-10 Engine)
My Astro Van can pull my 20' tank of a boat, on a twin axle trailer.
It also launches, and recovers it as well.
Are the F-150s you get in the states de-tuned or something? Put your
foot in it.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the engine. It has everything to do
with the suspension, brakes, and rear end ratio. The F-150 is a light duty
truck. I don't know what the 29' boat weighs, but I suspect it is at least
5000 lbs ..... probably more when engine, gas and gear are factored in.
The F 150, although maybe "rated" by Ford to be adequate ... isn't, IMO, for
any long distance, hauling of a boat that size.

Eisboch


I pull a 23 ft. Marquis cuddy on a dual axle trailer with a 1990 Merc.
Colony Park Station wagon. fuel enjected 302 (5.0). The trailer has
good hydrological surge brakes.

I won't say that it's all it can do to pull the boat but it's enough
for it. Shifting out of OD and no air, it will pull the boat at 50-55,
but yes, it sucks plenty of gas, I would say that at 50mph it will
possibly get 8, maybe 10 mpg....*maybe*

I would say that your f-150 WILL pull that 29 footer, but
conveniently? No, and economically, HECK NO!


Mine will pull it - the question is safely.

Everybody has pretty much hit on the main points including braking,
but the 5.4 is so emissions laden that it has no power at all - none.

Biggest mistakek I made was buying that truck.

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On Jul 29, 7:35*pm, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:16:07 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

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Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


I have to disagree, I think that truck is more than enough.


A 29' boat with a F-150?


Are you serious?


He can't be.


Oh, he can be! You've not seen some of his other gems!!!
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On Jul 29, 9:59*pm, hk wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:24:25 -0400, HK wrote:


Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 16:22:27 -0500, SSmokin wrote:


I have a 2002 Ford F-150. *5.4, 4x4 Extended Cab. *I’m looking at a
29’ Cheetah offshore (CX-29). *I know that the truck can pull the boat
from point A to point B, but what about "out of the water, on a steep
ramp"? *Any thoughts? *
In my opinion, no.


I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. *I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.


Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.


Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when *I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of *course it does.


You are the master.


Well, that's what the gauge sez when I tow, Tom. I'll be glad to
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How about when you tow your lobster boat, liar?
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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:31:17 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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I have a 2005 version of that same truck and it will barely tow my
Ranger 20' 200 C center console - boat, engine, trailer weigh in at
just over 5,000 lbs. I get 5 mpg on average over 900 miles of towing
just last week and the average speed was 50 mph.

Do what you will, but you need a bigger truck.



Hmmm. Apples and oranges, but when I pull Yo Ho, I get about 12 mpg
with my V8 SUV. I think we are pulling about the same weight, too.


Of course it does.

You are the master.


My old 24 ft cuddy cabin runabout weighed a little over 5,000 lbs,
6300 lbs with aluminum trailer. We trailered it 1400 miles from CT to
FL behind my 4.7L V8 Tundra, averaging 9 mph at interstate highway
speeds of 65 to 70 mph.

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On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:43:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Here's the boat this guy wants to tow .....

http://www.cheetahboats.net/cheetah_...icture_211.jpg

If the question is serious .... I still say the F-150 is too light of a duty
truck.


The real question is how much does the boat and trailer weigh vs the
max tow rating of the truck. That triple axle, steel frame trailer is
not a good start, probably close to 2,000 lbs all by itself. For a
boat to require triple axles probably implies a weight over 6,000
giving us a total somewhere north of 8,000. That's too much for a
light duty truck.

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