On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:50:16 +0000, Larry wrote:

"Chuck" wrote in
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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
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I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!


We do now!


Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)



Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

It's called Karma. His is good enough to offset metal deterioration.

"hk" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
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I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)


Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per
unit costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.



Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

Hey, I use monel staples all the time.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"hk" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
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I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)

Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per
unit costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.


Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

Hey, I use monel staples all the time.

Eisboch




We'll vote you in as an honorary o.f. at the next meeting.

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On Jul 28, 8:15 pm, DK wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:24:54 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:
On Jul 28, 4:20 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts3.jpg(boat in water)
www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg(3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...2.jpg(boltrust stains on pulley
housing)
OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!
Chuck
Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:
Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?
Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.
I have seen bolts looking like that taken off a wooden roller coaster
being restored. A friend of mine was helping with the restoration.
In this case constant friction and tension was the problem.
As a side note: Chuck, no offense but I can understand why you posted
the question here and not at your place. ;-)
Your place?
Wow. Warp17 is dumber than I thought. He thinks he's talking to the
guy that binned him?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Great, he even failed at sucking up!!!!

I'm sure he will try to spin it somehow. Maybe WAFA can help him.

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On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:59:55 -0400, hk wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
news:bSHjk.274888$yE1.260010@attbi_s21:

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
news:GMpjk.273665$yE1.249046@attbi_s21:

I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)


Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per unit
costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.


Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

??? Are you for real?



He's going some ass kissing - recruiting the next stooge. Someone tell
WAFA there's no collective bargaining on rec.boats...

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:21:08 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
news:GMpjk.273665$yE1.249046@attbi_s21:
I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)


Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per
unit costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.



Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

Hey, I use monel staples all the time.

I use monel five cent coins.

Casady

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:21:44 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:59:55 -0400, hk wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
news:bSHjk.274888$yE1.260010@attbi_s21:

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
news:GMpjk.273665$yE1.249046@attbi_s21:

I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)



Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per unit
costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.



Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

??? Are you for real?

US five cent coins are monel.

Casady

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 10:19:02 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:21:17 GMT, Richard Casady penned the following
well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 14:21:44 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:59:55 -0400, hk wrote:

Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
news:bSHjk.274888$yE1.260010@attbi_s21:

"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
news:GMpjk.273665$yE1.249046@attbi_s21:

I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)



Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per unit
costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.



Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

??? Are you for real?

US five cent coins are monel.

Casady

Nope..... they both contain copper and nickel, but aren't the same
alloy.

Actually there are a number of monels. The common characteristic is
the Monel company. The alloy used in the coins qualifies.

Casady

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"hk" wrote in message
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Larry wrote:
"Chuck" wrote in
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"Larry" wrote in message
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"Chuck" wrote in
news:GMpjk.273665$yE1.249046@attbi_s21:
I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

We do now!

Yep........ at least once I will have....... :-)


Well, at least it didnt end up bow first stuck into the bottom in 30' of
water, flood destructing its interior with seawater.

Be very thankful.....to the bolt gods.

Remind me again why we can't use STAINLESS bolts, other than the lift
manufacture saves 12 cents per unit cost??

We also have MONEL bolts if stainless won't work, adding 24 cents per
unit costs to the lift.

Navy brass is too soft.



Only an old fart like you (or me) remembers monel.

Hey, I use monel staples all the time.

Eisboch


Last Monel staples I bought at Home Depot were not Monel. Some Ahole had
swapped boxes to save $10.

"Richard Casady" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:40:29 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:14:30 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:

I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks
ago.
The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle pulley
sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the boat,
the
bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the links
below.

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away
to nothing)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts2.jpg (bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)

OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized
bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I can't seem
to
find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite figure out how to
do
a
simple swapout on the other three. I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

I'm probably wrong, but that looks like electrolysis. Which means
that you have some kind of current leakage somewhere - maybe from a
shore charger?

Is your boat isolated from shore side current?

How about adding some zincs?

These are galvanized bolts. Adding zinc to zinc will accomplish
little.

Casady

The zinc on those bolts was long gone.