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Chuck July 28th 08 09:14 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks ago.
The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle pulley
sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the boat, the
bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the links below.

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded away
to nothing)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts2.jpg (bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)

OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a galvanized
bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I can't seem to
find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite figure out how to do a
simple swapout on the other three. I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

Chuck


Eisboch July 28th 08 09:19 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 

"Chuck" wrote in message
news:GMpjk.273665$yE1.249046@attbi_s21...
I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks ago.
The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle pulley
sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the boat, the
bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the links below.

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts2.jpg (bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)

OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a galvanized
bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I can't seem to
find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite figure out how to do
a simple swapout on the other three. I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

Chuck



Salt water or fresh?

Eisboch



HK July 28th 08 09:20 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts2.jpg (bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)

OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!

Chuck


Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:

Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?


Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.

John H.[_5_] July 28th 08 09:21 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:14:30 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:

I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks ago.
The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle pulley
sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the boat, the
bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the links below.

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded away
to nothing)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts2.jpg (bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)

OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a galvanized
bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I can't seem to
find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite figure out how to do a
simple swapout on the other three. I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!

Chuck


I'd be putting stainless steel bolts in there as fast as I could. If you
can't unscrew the nut, then a hammer and chisel may be an alternative.
Another alternative may be a grinder.

Short Wave Sportfishing July 28th 08 09:22 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:14:30 GMT, "Chuck" wrote:

I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks ago.
The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle pulley
sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the boat, the
bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the links below.

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded away
to nothing)

www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts2.jpg (bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)

OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a galvanized
bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I can't seem to
find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite figure out how to do a
simple swapout on the other three. I don't know anybody who swaps their
lift bolts out every few years!


I'm probably wrong, but that looks like electrolysis. Which means
that you have some kind of current leakage somewhere - maybe from a
shore charger?

Is your boat isolated from shore side current?

JimH[_2_] July 28th 08 09:24 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
On Jul 28, 4:20*pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. *This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. *Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.


http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...lts3.jpg*(boat in water)


http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts1.jpg*(3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)


http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts2.jpg(bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)


OK. *So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? * I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. * I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. *I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!


Chuck


Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:

Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?

Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.


I have seen bolts looking like that taken off a wooden roller coaster
being restored. A friend of mine was helping with the restoration.
In this case constant friction and tension was the problem.

As a side note: Chuck, no offense but I can understand why you posted
the question here and not at your place. ;-)

John H.[_5_] July 28th 08 09:29 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:24:54 -0700 (PDT), JimH wrote:

On Jul 28, 4:20*pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. *This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. *Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.


http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...lts3.jpg*(boat in water)


http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts1.jpg*(3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)


http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts2.jpg(bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)


OK. *So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? * I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. * I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. *I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!


Chuck


Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:

Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?

Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.


I have seen bolts looking like that taken off a wooden roller coaster
being restored. A friend of mine was helping with the restoration.
In this case constant friction and tension was the problem.

As a side note: Chuck, no offense but I can understand why you posted
the question here and not at your place. ;-)


Your place?

HK July 28th 08 09:32 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
JimH wrote:
On Jul 28, 4:20 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.
www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts3.jpg (boat in water)
www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg (3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts2.jpg(bolt rust stains on pulley
housing)
OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!
Chuck

Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:

Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?

Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.


I have seen bolts looking like that taken off a wooden roller coaster
being restored. A friend of mine was helping with the restoration.
In this case constant friction and tension was the problem.

As a side note: Chuck, no offense but I can understand why you posted
the question here and not at your place. ;-)



Different chuck, methinks.

Anyone, sort of connected, I pull a couple of bolts on my boat trailer
every year, just to see how they are doing, and I pull the wheels once a
season, mainly to make sure I can get them off if I have a flat, but
also to see what is going on behind them, in corrosion.

Corrosion can be a real problem on salt water boats, especially. When I
installed the deck hardware on my Parker, I first took the hardware down
the street from the dealer to a metal working shop, and had the owner
cut stainless steel backing plates for me, so that the stainless steel
hardware and stainless steel nuts and bolts would be touching only
stainless steel, not aluminum. Stainless in contact with aluminum can be
a problem.

The backing plates were cut from a piece of 3/8" stainless scrap the guy
had in the shop. He cut four different plates for me and drilled them
for $20 total.


JimH[_2_] July 28th 08 09:39 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 
On Jul 28, 4:32*pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Jul 28, 4:20 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. *This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. *Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts3.jpg(boat in water)
www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg(3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...2.jpg(boltrust stains on pulley
housing)
OK. *So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? * I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. * I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. *I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!
Chuck
Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:


Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?


Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.


I have seen bolts looking like that taken off a wooden roller coaster
being restored. *A friend of mine was helping with the restoration.
In this case constant friction and tension was the problem.


As a side note: *Chuck, no offense but I can understand why you posted
the question here and not at your place. *;-)


Different chuck, methinks.



Must be. But I would not be surprised to see Mr. Gould post boating
related problems here and not has his place.

To Chuck: Sorry for disrupting your post but it looks like you are
receiving some great advice.



Chuck July 28th 08 11:03 PM

Grady White falls off of boat lift - Pics
 

"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Jul 28, 4:32 pm, HK wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Jul 28, 4:20 pm, hk wrote:
Chuck wrote:
I know... I only post when I have a problem. This happened two weeks
ago. The bolt on the front outer piling holding the boat lift cradle
pulley sheared right off and the boat went in the drink. Photos of the
boat, the bolts, and some telltale corrosion streaks are stored at the
links below.
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...olts3.jpg(boat in water)
www.thespaceexplorers.com/corrodedbolts1.jpg(3/4 galv. bolts corroded
away to nothing)
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/cor...2.jpg(boltrust stains on pulley
housing)
OK. So my question is.......... is there any way to diagnose a
galvanized bolts integrity before it rusts through like this again? I
can't seem to find my portable X-ray machine. I also can't quite
figure out how to do a simple swapout on the other three. I don't know
anybody who swaps their lift bolts out every few years!
Chuck
Since apparently no one was injured, the important questions:


Was the boat damaged? Will your insurance cover any damages to the boat
or the lift?


Maybe you need to check the area for stray electrical currents...and
also change all the bolts and use nuts and bolts you can swap out every
season.


I have seen bolts looking like that taken off a wooden roller coaster
being restored. A friend of mine was helping with the restoration.
In this case constant friction and tension was the problem.


As a side note: Chuck, no offense but I can understand why you posted
the question here and not at your place. ;-)


Different chuck, methinks.



Must be. But I would not be surprised to see Mr. Gould post boating
related problems here and not has his place.

To Chuck: Sorry for disrupting your post but it looks like you are
receiving some great advice.

Yep... its a different Chuck here. Too embarassed to remind everyone what I
asked last go-around. Just to clarify, here is a link to a picture of the
lift sheave bracket. I like the idea of replacing the old galvanized 3/4"
bolts with stainless steel ones. I am trying to figure out how I can do
this myself without enlisting a boat lift company who will charge me BIG
$$$$ for replacing the bolt on the other side. Have you heard of this
happening very much????

http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/gal...rackets001.jpg
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/gal...rackets002.jpg
http://www.thespaceexplorers.com/gal...rackets003.jpg



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