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Speaking of beautiful images...
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... |
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Speaking of beautiful images...
"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data. |
#3
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Speaking of beautiful images...
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data. Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what prop, and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational range of the engine. I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please let me know what it is. Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks like this: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site? |
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Speaking of beautiful images...
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data. Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what prop, and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational range of the engine. I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please let me know what it is. Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks like this: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site? Evinrude has a very similar data sheet on their web site, they actually compare the same data between them and Mercury and Yamaha, all of them side by side. The one I saw was for the 225 hp, and is Bullitin # PE333 |
#5
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Speaking of beautiful images...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data. Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what prop, and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational range of the engine. I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please let me know what it is. Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks like this: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site? Evinrude has a very similar data sheet on their web site, they actually compare the same data between them and Mercury and Yamaha, all of them side by side. The one I saw was for the 225 hp, and is Bullitin # PE333 D'oh. Yes, Reggie, I know. If you keep digging and digging and digging, you can find some. I think I know why. Evinrude is busy making all manner of outrageous claims for its eTecs, but when it comes to supplying data, you really have to dig for it on its site. I think that is deliberate. The report on the eTec 150 I found, on a boat that weighs about the same as mine, and is about the same length and width, shows performance and fuel usage results about the same as mine, and the reports I found for boats I have some knowledge of showed the eTec's produced results virtually no different than motors from other manufacturers. Which has been my point from the very beginning...that eTecs do not violate the laws of thermodynamics...a 150 hp or a 200 hp modern, high-tech outboard, two cycle or four cycle, produces pretty similar results, and that the claims of astonishing performace for eTecs are...bullship. The only surprise I've had so far is on that video of Tom's eTec at idle. It seems to be significantly noisier at idle than my old Yamaha F225 or my current Yamaha F150, but there are too many variables and unknowns involved here for me to draw conclusions. Good googling on your part, Reggie. I suppose it still is a valid substitute for you to actually owning a boat. |
#6
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Speaking of beautiful images...
HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data. Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what prop, and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational range of the engine. I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please let me know what it is. Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks like this: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site? Evinrude has a very similar data sheet on their web site, they actually compare the same data between them and Mercury and Yamaha, all of them side by side. The one I saw was for the 225 hp, and is Bullitin # PE333 D'oh. Yes, Reggie, I know. If you keep digging and digging and digging, you can find some. I think I know why. Evinrude is busy making all manner of outrageous claims for its eTecs, but when it comes to supplying data, you really have to dig for it on its site. I think that is deliberate. The report on the eTec 150 I found, on a boat that weighs about the same as mine, and is about the same length and width, shows performance and fuel usage results about the same as mine, and the reports I found for boats I have some knowledge of showed the eTec's produced results virtually no different than motors from other manufacturers. Which has been my point from the very beginning...that eTecs do not violate the laws of thermodynamics...a 150 hp or a 200 hp modern, high-tech outboard, two cycle or four cycle, produces pretty similar results, and that the claims of astonishing performace for eTecs are...bullship. The only surprise I've had so far is on that video of Tom's eTec at idle. It seems to be significantly noisier at idle than my old Yamaha F225 or my current Yamaha F150, but there are too many variables and unknowns involved here for me to draw conclusions. Good googling on your part, Reggie. I suppose it still is a valid substitute for you to actually owning a boat. I thought you were ignoring me? |
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Speaking of beautiful images...
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote: HK wrote: D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data. Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what prop, and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational range of the engine. I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please let me know what it is. Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks like this: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site? Evinrude has a very similar data sheet on their web site, they actually compare the same data between them and Mercury and Yamaha, all of them side by side. The one I saw was for the 225 hp, and is Bullitin # PE333 D'oh. Yes, Reggie, I know. If you keep digging and digging and digging, you can find some. I think I know why. Evinrude is busy making all manner of outrageous claims for its eTecs, but when it comes to supplying data, you really have to dig for it on its site. I think that is deliberate. The report on the eTec 150 I found, on a boat that weighs about the same as mine, and is about the same length and width, shows performance and fuel usage results about the same as mine, and the reports I found for boats I have some knowledge of showed the eTec's produced results virtually no different than motors from other manufacturers. Which has been my point from the very beginning...that eTecs do not violate the laws of thermodynamics...a 150 hp or a 200 hp modern, high-tech outboard, two cycle or four cycle, produces pretty similar results, and that the claims of astonishing performace for eTecs are...bullship. The only surprise I've had so far is on that video of Tom's eTec at idle. It seems to be significantly noisier at idle than my old Yamaha F225 or my current Yamaha F150, but there are too many variables and unknowns involved here for me to draw conclusions. Good googling on your part, Reggie. I suppose it still is a valid substitute for you to actually owning a boat. I thought you were ignoring me? Only in the real world, crap-for-brains. *This* is rec.boats, the newsgroup for boating poseurs - like you. |
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Speaking of beautiful images...
On Jun 14, 10:36*am, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote: HK wrote: D.Duck wrote: "HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. *:) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. *There's all kinds of comparison data. Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what prop, and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational range of the engine. I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please let me know what it is. Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks like this: http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site? Evinrude has a very similar data sheet on their web site, they actually compare the same data between them and Mercury and Yamaha, all of them side by side. *The one I saw was for the 225 hp, and is Bullitin # PE333- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Reggie, please ignore the stooges that are here for nothing but starting ****ing contests. |
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Speaking of beautiful images...
On Jun 14, 9:41*am, "D.Duck" wrote:
"HK" wrote in message ... Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK wrote: JimH wrote: On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though. Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle. Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. *:) I don't own a video camera. Give it up guys................ This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old. But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger. And it makes less noise...not more! Prove it. Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and fuel economy. Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it... Maybe you should try again. *There's all kinds of comparison data.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Please, you know he is only trolling, you have been here long enough. If you must address him, please be kind enough to snip, snip, snip.. Most here agreed not to engage any trolls a few weeks back, and things have been much better. If you read back over a couple days of posts, you will see nothing but the usual attacks and trolls from this puppet, you will also notice no one at all but you responding... Join the fight against curtain climbers, don't look, don't react, and don't get sucked in.. thanks. |
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