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Default Speaking of beautiful images...

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:11:36 -0400, HK
wrote:

JimH wrote:
On Jun 13, 8:28 pm, HK wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:09:51 -0400, HK
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
http://www.swsports.org/images/Movies/Beautiful.wmv
Noisy at idle. Seriously. Nice ****er, though.
Please feel free to post a video of yours at idle.
Assuming that you actually have a Yamaha that is. :)
I don't own a video camera.
Give it up guys................

This whole thing of 'mine is bigger than yours' is getting old.
But...my motor is smaller than his...not bigger.
And it makes less noise...not more!
Prove it.


Speaking of proof, I just checked the Evinrude site and could not
find a link that took me to the dozens of motor and boat test
reports you can find on the Mercury and Yamaha sites. The Evinrude
site has lots of pop-ups and hyperbole, but not the kind of hard
information that helps a potential buyer evaluate performance and
fuel economy.

Can you provide the link there I couldn't find...appreciate it...

Maybe you should try again. There's all kinds of comparison data.



Yeah? In a non-hyperbolic format? I don't mean the sort of
unsubstantiated claims about "service." I mean, charts that show a
particular boat, with all its measurements and weights, air temp of
the day, what gear is on the boat, how many crew, how much fuel, what
prop,
and the readouts of RPM, speed, fuel burn through the operational
range of the engine.

I couldn't find that link on the Evinrude site. If you can, please
let me know what it is.

Yamaha and Mercury provide the data...on the Yamaha site, it looks
like this:

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ous/angler.jpg



Where are the similar pages on the Evinrude site?


Evinrude has a very similar data sheet on their web site, they
actually compare the same data between them and Mercury and Yamaha,
all of them side by side. The one I saw was for the 225 hp, and is
Bullitin # PE333


D'oh.

Yes, Reggie, I know. If you keep digging and digging and digging, you
can find some. I think I know why. Evinrude is busy making all manner of
outrageous claims for its eTecs, but when it comes to supplying data,
you really have to dig for it on its site. I think that is deliberate.

The report on the eTec 150 I found, on a boat that weighs about the same
as mine, and is about the same length and width, shows performance and
fuel usage results about the same as mine, and the reports I found for
boats I have some knowledge of showed the eTec's produced results
virtually no different than motors from other manufacturers.

Which has been my point from the very beginning...that eTecs do not
violate the laws of thermodynamics...a 150 hp or a 200 hp modern,
high-tech outboard, two cycle or four cycle, produces pretty similar
results, and that the claims of astonishing performace for eTecs
are...bullship.

The only surprise I've had so far is on that video of Tom's eTec at
idle. It seems to be significantly noisier at idle than my old Yamaha
F225 or my current Yamaha F150, but there are too many variables and
unknowns involved here for me to draw conclusions.

Good googling on your part, Reggie. I suppose it still is a valid
substitute for you to actually owning a boat.



I thought you were ignoring me?