"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:27:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I'll have them rigorously tested and inspected if we proceed, probably by
DePaul Diesel Service out of Portsmouth, RI.

Not that you asked for my opinion, but those guys are the best.

Seriously.


Having witnessed another diesel "surveyor" who basically took an oil
sample, documented the engine serial numbers and checked the oil level, I
agree.

The guys from DePaul really exercised, tested, took readings, etc. of the
engines during the Navigator sea trial.
They even dynamically check things like the engine mounts by having the
operator fairly rapidly go from full forward, to idle, to reverse and then
almost full power again. Several times. Made the hair on my neck stand
up.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:27:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I'll have them rigorously tested and inspected if we proceed, probably
by
DePaul Diesel Service out of Portsmouth, RI.

Not that you asked for my opinion, but those guys are the best.

Seriously.


Having witnessed another diesel "surveyor" who basically took an oil
sample, documented the engine serial numbers and checked the oil level, I
agree.

The guys from DePaul really exercised, tested, took readings, etc. of the
engines during the Navigator sea trial.
They even dynamically check things like the engine mounts by having the
operator fairly rapidly go from full forward, to idle, to reverse and then
almost full power again. Several times. Made the hair on my neck stand
up.

Eisboch


BTW .... I got an email from Dennis at DePaul this morning. He didn't seem
to be that concerned about 3900 hours on the Cummins 5.9L turbo diesels.
He told me they just pulled the same engine out of a 73' sailboat, checked
it out then re-installed it in a commercial lobster boat. It had over 7000
hours on it and still ran fine.

Eisboch

On Apr 8, 12:03*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in messagenews:ca5nv315o0qlp178bt7qnlkkg3k8p59518@4ax .com...

On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:27:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I'll *have them rigorously tested and inspected if we proceed, probably by
DePaul Diesel Service out of Portsmouth, RI.

Not that you asked for my opinion, but those guys are the best.

Seriously.

Having witnessed another diesel "surveyor" *who basically took an oil
sample, documented the engine serial numbers and checked the oil level, I
agree.

The guys from DePaul really exercised, tested, took readings, etc. of the
engines during the Navigator sea trial.
They even dynamically check things like the engine mounts by having the
operator fairly rapidly go from full forward, to idle, to reverse and then
almost full power again. * Several times. * Made the hair on my neck stand
up.

Eisboch

I understand that feeling! When I worked on my cousin's race cars and
we'd take a motor to the shop and have them dyno it, it did the same
thing to me!

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Drove down to Fairhaven yesterday to check out the Sabreliner I have
interest in. Overall, it appears to be in pretty decent shape for a 1991
model. There is some typical gelcoat crazing found on older boats, mostly
along the toe rail and a few minor blemishes but nothing serious. It has
some brightwork exterior trim that needs to be redone, but that's not a
big deal.

It was difficult to get a good look at the exterior because it's still
shrinkwrapped, but from what I could see peeking under the wrap, it looks
good. Nothing visually unusual with the hull ... no apparent damage or
grounding repairs.

The interior was very good as was the engine spaces. Very clean and well
maintained. No unusual smells. Bilges were clean and odor-free.

My only real concern is the engine hours. Turns out there are about 3900
hours on the Cummins 6BT5.9-M turbo-diesels. The engines are very clean
and obviously well maintained, but I don't know how well these particular
engines hold up. I've done a little research on them and they are a very
popular marine engine with few problems reported. According to the
broker, they were fully checked out in August of 2005, including an oil
analysis which came back fine. The current owner has only put about 100
hours on them since. The oil was changed when it was laid up last
fall, so a new oil analysis isn't going to determine much of anything. If
we proceed with this boat, an arduous sea trial with a good diesel
mechanic is in order. The people that the buyer of the Navigator hired
would be good. They really run the engines through their paces, checking
all temps and operation while underway, doing things I'd never do with a
boat.

This style boat appeals to me and is perfect for my future, more
individual boating interest. Probably won't do a lot of cruising, but it
would be nice to make it from the Cape up to Scituate in 2.5-3 hours
instead of 7 hours on the Grand Banks. And, I like having twins. It is
one of three for sale in the MA, RI, CT area of roughly the same year and
has the lowest asking price.
I am trying to stay within a total budget of $150K for boat, taxes and
any repairs/upgrades another boat may require.

Hmmmmm.....

Eisboch

A modest proposal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-Pa...em140222227602

"tak" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Drove down to Fairhaven yesterday to check out the Sabreliner I have
interest in.



A modest proposal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-Pa...em140222227602


Nah. Those are a dime a dozen. I want something "different".

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"tak" wrote in message
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"Eisboch" wrote in message
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Drove down to Fairhaven yesterday to check out the Sabreliner I have
interest in.



A modest proposal:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-Pa...em140222227602


Nah. Those are a dime a dozen. I want something "different".

Eisboch
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