On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to such
a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type of
system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering that
is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using the
old cable system.

D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering that
is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using the
old cable system.



It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in
common use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084

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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering
that is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using
the old cable system.

It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in common
use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084

When I mentioned old cable system I had the cable and pulley setup in mind.
I still say that the hydraulic system is better than straight cable.

D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.
Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering
that is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using
the old cable system.
It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in common
use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084

When I mentioned old cable system I had the cable and pulley setup in mind.
I still say that the hydraulic system is better than straight cable.




I remember the cable and pulley system quite well, since I "rigged" many
of them at my father's boat shop, and replaced many cables, too.
Remember that wire wrapped in plastic stuff?

I agree the modern hydraulic system is easier on the operator than the
modern push-pull single cable system on higher torque setups.

"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering
that is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using
the old cable system.

It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in common
use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084
Here is what the unnamed poster on Chuck's site posted. I think you can see
why I was curious as to what the poor uninformed person was talking about.
Thank you for confirming that this person is full of poo. Quote follows-

No, it isn't cable and pulley. On a non-hydraulic system, there are two
relatively heavy steel wires inside a lubed synthetic cable. Operates as
push pull, I believe. The prop torque didn't bother me a lot, but my wife,
who is a lot smaller and lighter than I am, could not turn the boat to port
at planing speeds. She had no problems steering the much larger Parker 25,
which had hydraulic steering.

The new unit I had installed is the same unit Parker uses in its production
line for single engine hydraulic steering.

I remember the cable and pulley systems well. That's what there was when I
was growing up in small boats

On Apr 3, 8:12*am, HK wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today..
Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. *It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering
that is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using
the old cable system.
It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in common
use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...=steering&type....

When I mentioned old cable system I had the cable and pulley setup in mind.
I still say that the hydraulic system is better than straight cable.

I remember the cable and pulley system quite well, since I "rigged" many
of them at my father's boat shop, and replaced many cables, too.
Remember that wire wrapped in plastic stuff?

I agree the modern hydraulic system is easier on the operator than the
modern push-pull single cable system on higher torque setups.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And let the lies begin!
Was that before or after your father made his epic trans-Atlantic trip
in a runabout and came to NY for a fireboat welcome?

Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull
steering systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone
post a link to such a steering system. I know in the olden days that
OMC used that type of system for a while but I was unaware that
anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering
that is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors
using the old cable system.

It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in
common use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084

Here is what the unnamed poster on Chuck's site posted. I think you can
see why I was curious as to what the poor uninformed person was talking
about. Thank you for confirming that this person is full of poo. Quote
follows-

No, it isn't cable and pulley. On a non-hydraulic system, there are two
relatively heavy steel wires inside a lubed synthetic cable. Operates as
push pull, I believe. The prop torque didn't bother me a lot, but my
wife, who is a lot smaller and lighter than I am, could not turn the
boat to port at planing speeds. She had no problems steering the much
larger Parker 25, which had hydraulic steering.

The new unit I had installed is the same unit Parker uses in its
production line for single engine hydraulic steering.

I remember the cable and pulley systems well. That's what there was when
I was growing up in small boats



Oh. I erred. There's only one steel wire inside a cable, working as push
pull. BFD.

So this is your game now? Making snotty comments about posts in other
places?

Loser, thy name is Florida Jim or whatever you are calling yourself here
these days.

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:16:38 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to such
a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type of
system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Two wire would be the old cable system that is no longer used - I
think by fiat by the Coast Guard. Scotty knows more about that - he
mentioned it once when we were talking offline about steering for his
Brockway.

What I think is being discussed is rack and pinion steering - ancient
technology.

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084

There is also a variation on that theme with rotary steering -
basically a worm gear and cable

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...=1086&pa ge=1

I prefer hydraulic steering for engines 150 hp and up - just my
opinion. Essentially maintenance free other than adding oil every
once in a blue moon when the steering gets a little sloppy - which
doesn't happen often. This is the system I have.

http://ww2.seastarsteering.com/

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Jim wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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D.Duck wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull
steering systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post
a link to such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC
used that type of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is
using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering
that is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using
the old cable system.

It's not "the old cable system." It's Teleflex's "No Feedback System,"
which has a single push/pull cable coming out of the helm. It is in
common use on many outboard boats.

You can find the details on the teleflex site. There are several such
non-hydraulic systems there, including this one:

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084
Here is what the unnamed poster on Chuck's site posted. I think you can
see why I was curious as to what the poor uninformed person was talking
about. Thank you for confirming that this person is full of poo. Quote
follows-

No, it isn't cable and pulley. On a non-hydraulic system, there are two
relatively heavy steel wires inside a lubed synthetic cable. Operates as
push pull, I believe. The prop torque didn't bother me a lot, but my
wife, who is a lot smaller and lighter than I am, could not turn the boat
to port at planing speeds. She had no problems steering the much larger
Parker 25, which had hydraulic steering.

The new unit I had installed is the same unit Parker uses in its
production line for single engine hydraulic steering.

I remember the cable and pulley systems well. That's what there was when
I was growing up in small boats



Oh. I erred. There's only one steel wire inside a cable, working as push
pull. BFD.

So this is your game now? Making snotty comments about posts in other
places?

Loser, thy name is Florida Jim or whatever you are calling yourself here
these days.

I thought it was polite not to mention names, but since you did, you didn't
"err". You are clueless. If you want to come off as an old salt, at least
google up your information and get it right. You sound like Hillary with her
"misspeaks".