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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:23:26 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


We have the same emergency tiller on the 49 but no sail. Those in the
know say that the sail is totally ineffective and we have twin engines
in any case.

Just curious. Might that sail be for roll stabilizing and not "get home"?

Yes. I was just joking about the sail. It *is* for stabilizing and is
often referred to as a "mooring" sail.

Eisboch

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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:23:22 -0400, HK wrote:

Most of my outboard boats of recent vintage had that steering system. In
fact, my current Parker had it...but I had it swapped out for hydraulic.
I didn't have any problems with it, but I got a few complaints about
"overcoming" prop torque.

Zero feedback does not relieve you from adjusting the trim tab to
minimize prop torque.



We went through that. Also swapped out the helm and the cable. Dealer
and Parker agreed that perhaps the "angles" the cable had to make were
"sharper" than average, and they came up with a "deal" for the two of
them to swap out the "no feedback" system for a factory hydraulic
system. Whatever the problem was, the solution worked out for everyone.

On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:57:06 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:23:26 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


We have the same emergency tiller on the 49 but no sail. Those in the
know say that the sail is totally ineffective and we have twin engines
in any case.

Just curious. Might that sail be for roll stabilizing and not "get home"?

That was the primary intent but its also too small to be a good roll
stabilizer.

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 05:57:06 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:23:26 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:


We have the same emergency tiller on the 49 but no sail. Those in the
know say that the sail is totally ineffective and we have twin engines
in any case.

Just curious. Might that sail be for roll stabilizing and not "get home"?

That was the primary intent but its also too small to be a good roll
stabilizer.


I've never tried it. I rigged the mast and boom for a dink. Maybe the
stabilizing sail works better on the smaller GB's like ours.
Narrower beam and less weight? The 36 footer was also the original GB
design, so maybe the sail setup was really intended for it and not the
bigger boats.

Eisboch

On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 07:25:26 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

I've never tried it. I rigged the mast and boom for a dink. Maybe the
stabilizing sail works better on the smaller GB's like ours.
Narrower beam and less weight? The 36 footer was also the original GB
design, so maybe the sail setup was really intended for it and not the
bigger boats.

Not sure. We have ours rigged as a dinghy hoist also.

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:16:58 -0400, Eisboch penned the following well
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"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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Here's the old style:
http://www.cbhforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1981



That's the type my brother and I replaced the cables on in an old beater
boat many, many years ago and got everything backwards.
Turn the helm right, the boat turned left. Turn the helm left and the
boat
turned right.

Worked nice and smooth though, with the new cables and pulleys.

I think we drank Pabst Blue Ribbon back then which I suspect had something
to do with the failed project.

Actually, if the boat was old enough that would be correct!



Seriously? A tiller, I can understand. Pull it over to port to turn
starboard and visa-versa. But a helm or steering wheel?

Eisboch

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 Apr 2008 16:31:45 -0400, Eisboch penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:



Seriously? A tiller, I can understand. Pull it over to port to turn
starboard and visa-versa. But a helm or steering wheel?

Eisboch


Yes! The ships were rigged so that the wheel caused action and
reaction similar to a tiller. All the way up until about 1930,
steering systems worked this way. One of my co-workers thought he had
found a silly error in the movie Titanic! He noted that the ship
turned opposite the wheel (expecting a modern automobile sort of
response). I had to disappoint him by telling him that "hard to port"
actually turned the ship to starboard.

This quirk has lead to causation in several large maritime
accidents...



Nice nautical tidbit I never knew. Thanks. When I think about it, being a
transition from a tiller, it makes sense. The helmsman would be thinking
rudder position and not the ship's bow heading.

Eisboch