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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 12:23:22 -0400, HK wrote:

Most of my outboard boats of recent vintage had that steering system. In
fact, my current Parker had it...but I had it swapped out for hydraulic.
I didn't have any problems with it, but I got a few complaints about
"overcoming" prop torque.

Zero feedback does not relieve you from adjusting the trim tab to
minimize prop torque.



We went through that. Also swapped out the helm and the cable. Dealer
and Parker agreed that perhaps the "angles" the cable had to make were
"sharper" than average, and they came up with a "deal" for the two of
them to swap out the "no feedback" system for a factory hydraulic
system. Whatever the problem was, the solution worked out for everyone.

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering that
is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using the
old cable system.


You should see the cable steering system on the Grand Banks. It's quite a
setup. Plus, if it ever snapped, you pop out a circular cover on the aft
deck, insert a big, mahogany tiller with a metal cap onto the rudder post,
and keep on truckin'.

Eisboch

On Apr 3, 8:51*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message

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"Jim" wrote in message
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On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type
of system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Mine is not a Parker but a Lund. *It uses Teleflex hydraulic steering that
is a thing of beauty and a joy for ever.

I just can't imagine a boat with today's high horse power motors using the
old cable system.

You should see the cable steering system on the Grand Banks. *It's quite a
setup. *Plus, if it ever snapped, you pop out a circular cover on the aft
deck, insert a big, mahogany tiller with a metal cap onto the rudder post,
and keep on truckin'.

Eisboch

Now that's cool! Did it actually come with the tiller stowed away
somewhere?

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On Apr 3, 8:51 am, "Eisboch" wrote:

You should see the cable steering system on the Grand Banks. It's quite a
setup. Plus, if it ever snapped, you pop out a circular cover on the aft
deck, insert a big, mahogany tiller with a metal cap onto the rudder post,
and keep on truckin'.

Eisboch

Now that's cool! Did it actually come with the tiller stowed away
somewhere?

Yup. Comes with the boat from Grand Banks. Also, if the engine dies you
can hoist the stabilizing sail on the mast and boom, insert the tiller and
sail back to your slip. Might take a year or two, but you'll get there.

Eisboch

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 16:55:41 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Yup. Comes with the boat from Grand Banks. Also, if the engine dies you
can hoist the stabilizing sail on the mast and boom, insert the tiller and
sail back to your slip. Might take a year or two, but you'll get there.

We have the same emergency tiller on the 49 but no sail. Those in the
know say that the sail is totally ineffective and we have twin engines
in any case.

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:16:38 -0400, "Jim" wrote:

On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to such
a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type of
system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Two wire would be the old cable system that is no longer used - I
think by fiat by the Coast Guard. Scotty knows more about that - he
mentioned it once when we were talking offline about steering for his
Brockway.

What I think is being discussed is rack and pinion steering - ancient
technology.

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...s&product=1084

There is also a variation on that theme with rotary steering -
basically a worm gear and cable

http://www.teleflexmarine.com/cgi-bi...=1086&pa ge=1

I prefer hydraulic steering for engines 150 hp and up - just my
opinion. Essentially maintenance free other than adding oil every
once in a blue moon when the steering gets a little sloppy - which
doesn't happen often. This is the system I have.

http://ww2.seastarsteering.com/

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:16:38 -0400, Jim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
|systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to
such
|a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type of
|system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Here's the old style:
http://www.cbhforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1981

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Here is the one I was thinking of. There are 2 cables suspended in the flat
rubber jacketed cable At either end there was a drum. rotate 1 drum and the
other drum would mirror the action.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97991...phot ohosting

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message . com...
On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 07:16:38 -0400, Jim penned the following well
considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|On Chuck's site someone mentions two wire mechanical push pull steering
|systems used by Parker boats. I am curious. Could anyone post a link to such
|a steering system. I know in the olden days that OMC used that type of
|system for a while but I was unaware that anyone is using it today.

Here's the old style:
http://www.cbhforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1981


When I was a kid, my Dad owned a 17' Crestliner
with that pulley steering system. One of the cables
broke once sitting in the back yard and I got the blame.

"Do you know anything about this son?????"

db~uhh ohh

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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Here's the old style:
http://www.cbhforums.com/index.php?showtopic=1981



That's the type my brother and I replaced the cables on in an old beater
boat many, many years ago and got everything backwards.
Turn the helm right, the boat turned left. Turn the helm left and the boat
turned right.

Worked nice and smooth though, with the new cables and pulleys.

I think we drank Pabst Blue Ribbon back then which I suspect had something
to do with the failed project.

Eisboch

On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:16:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

That's the type my brother and I replaced the cables on in an old beater
boat many, many years ago and got everything backwards.
Turn the helm right, the boat turned left. Turn the helm left and the boat
turned right.

Worked nice and smooth though, with the new cables and pulleys.

I think we drank Pabst Blue Ribbon back then which I suspect had something
to do with the failed project.

As I recall the wires have to come off the top of the steering wheel
drum instead of the bottom.