On Mar 10, 4:53*pm, Tim wrote:
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On Mar 10, 3:48?pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H. wrote:
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Switch from stump-broke sheep to stump-broke cows. Just cut the stumps
higher. You'll be OK.
--
John

Don't you mean "Broke-Back Sheep?"

Ah, those little Montana Sweethearts.....

?;^)

I guess, for folks like you, I should have said 'stump-broke ewes'. I'm
hoping no one tries out a brokeback ram.
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Well, if you were a three foot wave, you could do a broke-back
LTP !!

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Hey Tim.. ever dream of having a "Ricken Baker" 12 string? How about
if I told you it was less than $250!!!

Well here you go:

http://www.paylessguitars.com/produc...l.asp?Pid=1105

Hey, buy two, one of em' at that price

On Mar 10, 10:21*pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53*pm, Tim wrote:





wrote:
On Mar 10, 3:48?pm, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

John H. wrote:
!

Switch from stump-broke sheep to stump-broke cows. Just cut the stumps
higher. You'll be OK.
--
John

Don't you mean "Broke-Back Sheep?"

Ah, those little Montana Sweethearts.....

?;^)

I guess, for folks like you, I should have said 'stump-broke ewes'. I'm
hoping no one tries out a brokeback ram.
--
John- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, if you were a three foot wave, you could do a broke-back
LTP !!

Psssssst! Hey buddy. Need a watch?

A T4g Heuer w4tch is a luxury statement on its own. Unfortunately,
that luxury comes with a price... Except when you visit Prest1ge
Repl1cas, the web's most comprehensive collection of brand name
repl1ca w4tches. In Prest1ge Repl1cas, any T4g Heuer is available
for just over $200.http://www.suppoenn.com/

For those of us who have always dreamed of wearing a T4g Heuer,
there is no better time to make our dream come true than this very
moment, and no better place to do it, than at Prest1ge Repl1cas.
Here you will find the most prestigious repl1ca T4g Heuers, at an
unbeatable price. Come inside now... your T4g Heuer watch is
waiting for you at Prest1ge Repl1cas.http://www.suppoenn.com/-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey Tim.. ever dream of having a "Ricken Baker" 12 string? How about
if I told you it was less than $250!!!

Well here you go:

http://www.paylessguitars.com/produc...l.asp?Pid=1105

Hey, buy two, one of em' at that price- Hide quoted text -

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I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:21 pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53 pm, Tim wrote:



I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

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Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars. The guitar is made
in China. Paylessguitars.com lists a similar Fender for $170.

My Gibson Les Paul has a MSRP of about $3793 on the Gibson website. $210
on paylessguitars.com.

Eisboch

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:21 pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53 pm, Tim wrote:



I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------


Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars. The guitar is made
in China. Paylessguitars.com lists a similar Fender for $170.

My Gibson Les Paul has a MSRP of about $3793 on the Gibson website. $210
on paylessguitars.com.

Eisboch

It pays to shop around ;-

On Mar 11, 5:06*am, "
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"Eisboch" wrote in message

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"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:21 pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53 pm, Tim wrote:

I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. * I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars. *The guitar is made
in China. * Paylessguitars.com lists a similar Fender for $170.

My Gibson Les Paul has a MSRP of about $3793 on the Gibson website. * $210
on paylessguitars.com.

Eisboch

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LOL!

Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:21 pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53 pm, Tim wrote:



I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------


Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars. The guitar is made
in China. Paylessguitars.com lists a similar Fender for $170.

My Gibson Les Paul has a MSRP of about $3793 on the Gibson website. $210
on paylessguitars.com.

Eisboch


Eisboch,
I purchased one of the inexpensive Gibson Les Pauls for my son's first
guitar, it was about $200-$250. It would not stay in tune, and he
would break one or two strings every time he used it. The metal they
use on the base of the strings is so cheap it could not stand the
pressure of the strings and would get tiny burrs that would cut the
strings. I got him an American made Fat Strat and the guitar would stay
in tune longer and no more crazy string breaking.

Their is a world of difference between the American made and Mexican and
Chinese made versions.

"Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:21 pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53 pm, Tim wrote:



I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------


Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars. The guitar is
made in China. Paylessguitars.com lists a similar Fender for $170.

My Gibson Les Paul has a MSRP of about $3793 on the Gibson website.
$210 on paylessguitars.com.

Eisboch
Eisboch,
I purchased one of the inexpensive Gibson Les Pauls for my son's first
guitar, it was about $200-$250. It would not stay in tune, and he would
break one or two strings every time he used it. The metal they use on the
base of the strings is so cheap it could not stand the pressure of the
strings and would get tiny burrs that would cut the strings. I got him an
American made Fat Strat and the guitar would stay in tune longer and no
more crazy string breaking.

Their is a world of difference between the American made and Mexican and
Chinese made versions.


No question. I didn't realize the scope and controversy regarding the
"branded" guitars and the copy-cat imitations
available until I was talking to the owner of the Music store.

My Gibson is the real deal and it's an absolutely beautiful instrument. I
am getting better, but I love hearing it played by someone with real talent.
Kinda heavy, but that's a Les Paul thing.

I also just bought another, less expensive, but authentic, American made
Gibson. It's called the "Melody Maker" and has a nice, "old school" sound.

Eisboch

On Mar 11, 8:22*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
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Eisboch wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:21 pm, wrote:
On Mar 10, 4:53 pm, Tim wrote:

I'm wondering when John Hall (CEO of RIC Int'l) will come down on them
like a hammer. He might not get the job done seeing their solde direct
from China. I kinow that JC Penney tried to amrket them about 4 years
ago, and Hall's legal team put the ka-bash (or, K-Bong!) to them in
short order.

Rickenbacker is very protective of their trademark[s] and people that
try to infringe upon them.

that's one reason that if you see a "Ricken-faker" on Ebay, the
auctions usually get pulled down pretty quickly.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. * I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars. *The guitar is
made in China. * Paylessguitars.com lists a similar Fender for $170.

My Gibson Les Paul has a MSRP of about $3793 on the Gibson website.
$210 on paylessguitars.com.

Eisboch
Eisboch,
I purchased one of the inexpensive Gibson Les Pauls for my son's first
guitar, it was about $200-$250. * It would not stay in tune, and he would
break one or two strings every time he used it. *The metal they use on the
base of the strings is so cheap it could not stand the pressure of the
strings and would get tiny burrs that would cut the strings. *I got him an
American made Fat Strat and the guitar would stay in tune longer and no
more crazy string breaking.

Their is a world of difference between the American made and Mexican and
Chinese made versions.

No question. *I didn't realize the scope and controversy regarding the
"branded" guitars and the copy-cat imitations
available until I was talking to the owner of the Music store.

My Gibson is the real deal and it's an absolutely beautiful instrument. *I
am getting better, but I love hearing it played by someone with real talent.

wrote in message
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I agree, a real Les Paul is a thing of beauty, as is a real Strat.
Knockoffs are okay sometimes, sometimes not. Believe it or not, I've
recently aquired a Chinese made Strat that sounds quite good. Not as
good as my old made in the U.S.A. Strat, but not a bad knock around
guitar.

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One of the nicest sounding (and easiest to play) guitar in my growing
collection is an old, Peavey "Strat" clone that Mrs.E. bought many years
ago. It sat around unused for years. I put new strings on it, tuned it up
in open "G" and am having a blast goofing around with it.

Mrs.E. prefers it's sound to the sound of the Eric CLapton "Blackie".

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:

Fender is marketing a "Jay Turner" model "Strat" in the US. I looked at
them yesterday at the local music shop I frequent.
Guitar and little Peavey practice amp is $199 dollars.

Richard, I think you're talking about "Jay Turser" which is a seperate
company that produces under license from Fender. The Turser quality is
a lot better than it used to be. They make some really good knock-
off's.

Interesting about "name brands" like:

Jay Turser
Carlo Robelli
J.D. Player

FAIK, those are all distributor brands and there are no such designer/
luthier-like people associated with the product names.

Now the cheap J. Reynolds brands. I Do know J. Reynolds. He worked
for Samuel Music/ Midco Int'l, in Effingham IL. for years. Midco Int'l
owns the Lotus Brand, was partners with Washburn for a while, Owns the
Arbor trademark, was the sole distributor of Hohner harmonicas in the
US, also introduced Yamaha band instruments back in the late 60's etc.
For a small office in a small mid-west town, they had warehouses all
across the US.

Reynolds just retired about 5 years ago after about 30+ years of
service, Dean Samuelthe owner, had Midco produce a guitar in his
honor. It's an inexpensive "Strat" copy, but plays pretty well.

cool, eh?