On Mar 25, 2:55*pm, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is

Here wrote:

My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). *He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.

How high is the transom on that Parker?
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Parkers have very low transom, everyone knows that!

On Mar 25, 12:52Â*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). Â*He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How's it play and sound?

It sounds good and he enjoys it. Â*He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. Â*I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:



My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.

How high is the transom on that Parker?
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some
years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired
and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam
suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or
otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says
that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords,
it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond
the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you
play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers
are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on
the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at
the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you
could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started
playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it
being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to
be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and
slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a
bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really
sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of
neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic
guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How's it play and sound?

It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.



I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?

On Mar 25, 3:53Â*pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some
years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired
and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam
suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or
otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says
that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords,
it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond
the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you
play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers
are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on
the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at
the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you
could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started
playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it
being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to
be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and
slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a
bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really
sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of
neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). Â*He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic
guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How's it play and sound?

It sounds good and he enjoys it. Â*He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. Â*I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.

I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:43:50 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is
Here wrote:


My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.

How high is the transom on that Parker?

It is a Parker, so it is low, wet and pounds.

HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
wrote:
Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim

wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some
years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers
repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam
suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or
otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says
that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud
chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond
the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when
you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers
are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on
the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at
the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet,
you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started
playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about
it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to
be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and
slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide
quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a
bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really
sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of
neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!
My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic
guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

How's it play and sound?

It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play
so I have no idea how it plays.



I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?

Nah, my son is backpacking his way through SE Asia, India and North
Africa. He is either in Cambodia or India right now. He starts his PhD
program in the fall, going to a first rate school, rated number 1 in his
field of study. Just so you know, it is not the University of Kansas,
which if your field of study is wheat, is probably a nice 3rd tier
school. Did I mention that he has a complete scholarship and
including a very generous stipend?

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 25, 3:53*pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:






How's it play and sound?

It sounds good and he enjoys it. *He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. *I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.

I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?

Loogy, Harry does what he must to get people to talk with him. Keep that in
mind.
--
John *H*
(Not the other one!)

On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 11:18:59 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

I'm pretty neutral in my guitars, different sounds for different types
of music and sound. My strat is my number one guitar. I'd like to own
a nice vintage jazzmaster.

Around here, the #1 is my sunburst finish Ovation Custom Balladeer - I
prefer the acoustic sound in my old age. I don't play the Strat all
that much anymore and the same goes with the Gretsch Country
Gentleman.

I actually liked the Jaguar - short neck and it had some other little
nagging problems, but over all I liked it. Not a real rock and roll
guitar by any stretch of imagination - more like a solid body jazz
guitar.

John H. wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:56:33 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Mar 25, 3:53 pm, HK wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:





How's it play and sound?
It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.
I'll bet Loogy is your son. Am I right?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Awe, it's Harry, the childish name calling and petty insult pussy boy.
Still hiding behind your Bozo's bin like a little sissy? Still lying
with every breath you take?

Loogy, Harry does what he must to get people to talk with him. Keep that in
mind.

And he reads *every* word just like Donnie.