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On Mar 23, 11:39*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09*pm, JG2U wrote:





On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:

http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html

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wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:





On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:

http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!
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On Mar 23, 11:39*pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09*pm, JG2U wrote:





On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36*pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31*pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22*pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36*am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? *After some years that foam will
break down. *I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. *Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...

But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yup, my guitar is awesome clean, that's what I am looking for. I want
to hear those pearly gates sing
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JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:





On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:

On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing

wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
...

Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.

Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.

But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.

Could be a bad voice coil.

That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.

Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.

Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?

Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.

If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I suppose anythings possible.....

but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?

:-)


Again, Absolutely! Thats the main reason I have about 60% hearing
loss in my left ear. Too many years of Marshall stacks and Ampeg or
SWR bass rigs, and the likes of Steppenwolf, Joe Walsh and Foghat (and
gobs of others)

What a glorious way to go deaf!

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On Mar 24, 1:25Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:


On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
...


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...


But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:


http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


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wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:


On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
....


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...


But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:


http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?

eeeeeech!
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Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?

eeeeeech!


My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.
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On Mar 25, 12:41Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25Â*pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:


On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:


On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:


On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:


On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing


wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
....


Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.


Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.


But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.


Could be a bad voice coil.


That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.


Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.


Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?


Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.


If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


I suppose anythings possible.....


but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........


Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?


:-)- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Oh yeah...


But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Especially with this:


http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html


And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?

eeeeeech!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yes!
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On Mar 25, 12:43Â*pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
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Tim wrote:

wrote:
On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
wrote:
On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 1:22�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:33:39 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
...
Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
If you have access to somebody else's speaker cabinet, you could plug your amp
into their speaker and confirm you have a bad speaker.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
somewhat better, could old speakers just be stuck and slowly work
themselves in again?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I suppose anythings possible.....
but have you seen it before? Or anything like it?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
:-)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
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Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
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Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....


Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?


eeeeeech!


My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). Â*He purchased it
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How's it play and sound?
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On Mar 25, 12:43 pm, "Reginald P. Smithers III" "Reggie is Here
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Tim wrote:

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On Mar 24, 1:25 pm, Tim wrote:
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On Mar 23, 11:39�pm, Tim wrote:
On Mar 23, 10:09�pm, JG2U wrote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 17:18:17 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Mar 23, 1:36�pm, wrote:
On Mar 23, 2:31�pm, Tim wrote:
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On Mar 23, 7:36�am, wrote:
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On Mar 22, 6:56�pm, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:41:54 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
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On Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:13:31 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message
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Does the speaker have foam suspension? �After some years that foam will
break down. �I had some 15 year old speakers repaired and they sounded as
good as new.
Doubtful that a guitar amp speaker would have foam suspension, particularly
one from the 80's. �Even new ones are hard to the rim.
But, that doesn't mean the paper hasn't been torn or otherwise deteriorated
from it's mounting.
Could be a bad voice coil.
That would be my guess, and for good reason. He says that if he plays single
notes lightly, it's fine, but when he plays loud chords, it sounds awful. The
voice coil probably has a burn in a spot that is beyond the amount of movement
caused by a light single note, but gets reached when you play louder and the
coil excursion increases.
Then again, if the amp is from the 1980's the speakers are deteriorated
regardless of whether they buzz or not.
Sounds reasonable. how do I identify the voice coil on the board, can
I test without a schematic?
Voice coil is part of the speaker. It's the cylinder at the narrow end.
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Cleaned up the parts and connections I could and started playing with
it. Seems to be getting better, I am thinking more about it being
speaker related. But with more and more play, it seems to be getting
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Not really. but paper cones can get brittle. I suppose that a bit of
playing can soften up the adhesives a bit, but not really sure. Or
maybe you're getting used to it........
Isn't some distortion on loudly played guitars a good thing?
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Oh yeah...
But sometimes a clean tone (with a tad of reverb) is kind of neat too.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Especially with this:
http://www.elevation-music.com/pap8eacelguw.html
And for ONLY $1399.00!- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yeah, but I'll tell ya, I actually got to touch and play one, and it
IS sweet. Guy that owned it took it away from me after about five
minutes, I think I may have been starting to drool.....
Well, especially if you were playing with the guitar on your lap, I'm
wondering if you were going to drool on it? or get orgasmic?
eeeeeech!

My son owns an electric Parker Fly Classic Guitar
(http://www.elevation-music.com/paflyclelguw.html). He purchased it
because with a flip of a switch it had the sound of an acoustic guitar.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


How's it play and sound?


It sounds good and he enjoys it. He also owns a Les Paul and a Double
Fat Strat, the Strat and Parker Fly were his favorites. I don't play so
I have no idea how it plays.
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