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Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 12:47 PM

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:28:52 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


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On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:21:23 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!


I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Eisboch

I think he finally came to his senses, recalculated, and wimped out. Yep,
E=MVe2 works every time.


Wimp out? WIMP OUT!?!?!??!?

Ok, we need to test this.

How do we set it up?


Honor system?


Works for me - see my reply to Eisboch.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 12:50 PM

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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:25:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:24:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!

I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete aside.


Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.

The question is, how do we test it.

Go hit a golf ball with your bat. Let us know how far it went. Mike Dobbyn
hit a 551 yard drive last year. http://tinyurl.com/2yskb9

If you can get over 300 yards, I'd say you did pretty good, given the lack
of practice.


Only three hundred yards?

Piffle. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 12:53 PM

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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:41:56 -0500, BAR wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:24:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:

"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)
~~ snerk ~~
I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)
You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!
I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete aside.
Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.

The question is, how do we test it.

Go hit a golf ball with your bat. Let us know how far it went. Mike Dobbyn
hit a 551 yard drive last year. http://tinyurl.com/2yskb9

If you can get over 300 yards, I'd say you did pretty good, given the lack
of practice.


Wait a minute. To be fair the golf ball needs to be pitched to Tom at
100mph.


Not really - the golf ball will be at rest with the club - I was
planning on hitting the golf ball off a T-ball T.

With a baseball bat.

This should be fun.

D.Duck[_2_] March 3rd 08 12:59 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:30:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


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On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:21:23 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing
terms!


I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Eisboch

I think he finally came to his senses, recalculated, and wimped out.
Yep,
E=MVe2 works every time.

Wimp out? WIMP OUT!?!?!??!?

Ok, we need to test this.

How do we set it up?


Call Mythbusters.


Good idea.

Off to the Mythbusters site.


I like the Mythbusters idea. Now you don't have any influence over the
people there, do you? Like they won't use Big Poppy for the bat test and
some eight year old girl for the golf club test, will they?



D.Duck[_2_] March 3rd 08 01:02 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:34:19 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!

I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.


Trying to save you some embarrassment. It's also the reason that young,
flexible flyer golfers using light, titanium clubs can easily out-drive a
muscle bound jock using his "Big Bertha" driver.


Well, that's true.

However that assumes that I'm going to be looking for the fences with
right handed power. NO NO NO - I'm strictly a finesse hitter.

There is more to hitting a round ball with a bat than power - there is
wrist speed (the ability to turn over the bat qiuckly) and hitting the
ball square in the middle of the barrel. I wouldn't use an aluminum
bat either - wood baby.

However, in the interest of fairness, there is a great driving range
here in Woodstock that is wide open, flat and the use of a baseball
bat isn't strictly forbidden (perhaps you can tell I've done this
before when one of my kids played high school golf).

I also have a video camera. I think we can pull this test off.

So, honor system.

PS: I'm also counting on the blind hope that perhaps Mr. Duck isn't
that great a golfer. :)



Nope, stick with Mythbusters. Video can be fudged.



Eisboch March 3rd 08 01:16 PM

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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:25:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:24:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!

I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.

The question is, how do we test it.

Go hit a golf ball with your bat. Let us know how far it went. Mike Dobbyn
hit a 551 yard drive last year. http://tinyurl.com/2yskb9

If you can get over 300 yards, I'd say you did pretty good, given the lack
of practice.


Only three hundred yards?

Piffle. :)



Remember. The longest home run hit by a baseball player is reported to be
634 *feet* (Mickey Mantle).
That's *feet*. On a good day, I can drive a golfball close to 300 *yards*.
Or at least I could several years ago.

I realize the balls are different, however the baseball has the added
velocity of the pitch, combined with the velocity of the bat as it is swung,
so the energy transferred to the ball is the sum of the two. The lowly
golf ball is stationary, yet a decent golfer can drive it over 300 yards.

Eisboch



Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 01:35 PM

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:16:49 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:25:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:24:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!

I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.

The question is, how do we test it.
Go hit a golf ball with your bat. Let us know how far it went. Mike Dobbyn
hit a 551 yard drive last year. http://tinyurl.com/2yskb9

If you can get over 300 yards, I'd say you did pretty good, given the lack
of practice.


Only three hundred yards?

Piffle. :)


Remember. The longest home run hit by a baseball player is reported to be
634 *feet* (Mickey Mantle).
That's *feet*. On a good day, I can drive a golfball close to 300 *yards*.
Or at least I could several years ago.

I realize the balls are different, however the baseball has the added
velocity of the pitch, combined with the velocity of the bat as it is swung,
so the energy transferred to the ball is the sum of the two. The lowly
golf ball is stationary, yet a decent golfer can drive it over 300 yards.


Absoutely - laws of physics and all that.

Doesn't mean I can't try. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 01:37 PM

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:59:12 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:30:07 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 23:21:23 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing
terms!


I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Eisboch

I think he finally came to his senses, recalculated, and wimped out.
Yep,
E=MVe2 works every time.

Wimp out? WIMP OUT!?!?!??!?

Ok, we need to test this.

How do we set it up?

Call Mythbusters.


Good idea.

Off to the Mythbusters site.


I like the Mythbusters idea. Now you don't have any influence over the
people there, do you? Like they won't use Big Poppy for the bat test and
some eight year old girl for the golf club test, will they?


Based on past episodes, I suspect, assuming that they take the idea,
that they will use mechanical means much like they did in the baseball
myth episode.

I've entered the suggestion.

Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 01:38 PM

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:02:50 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 07:34:19 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!

I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.

Trying to save you some embarrassment. It's also the reason that young,
flexible flyer golfers using light, titanium clubs can easily out-drive a
muscle bound jock using his "Big Bertha" driver.


Well, that's true.

However that assumes that I'm going to be looking for the fences with
right handed power. NO NO NO - I'm strictly a finesse hitter.

There is more to hitting a round ball with a bat than power - there is
wrist speed (the ability to turn over the bat qiuckly) and hitting the
ball square in the middle of the barrel. I wouldn't use an aluminum
bat either - wood baby.

However, in the interest of fairness, there is a great driving range
here in Woodstock that is wide open, flat and the use of a baseball
bat isn't strictly forbidden (perhaps you can tell I've done this
before when one of my kids played high school golf).

I also have a video camera. I think we can pull this test off.

So, honor system.

PS: I'm also counting on the blind hope that perhaps Mr. Duck isn't
that great a golfer. :)


Nope, stick with Mythbusters. Video can be fudged.


Harrumph...

I'm not Bill Belichik you know. :)

Short Wave Sportfishing March 3rd 08 01:40 PM

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On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:16:49 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:25:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 11:24:24 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 20:36:29 -0500, "Eisboch" wrote:


"D.Duck" wrote in message
news:3cadnd26k8nrzFbanZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@giganew s.com...

"Short Wave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:56:25 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 00:16:16 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

I'll be running a tab. :)

~~ snerk ~~

I'll give you a mulligan on that one. :)

You're on record as hating golf. Therefore, layoff the golfing terms!

I've been waiting for the results of the golf club versus baseball bat
distance challenge.
I am not a golfer (much) but I *did* learn something about energy
equaling
mass times velocity squared.
My money is not on Tom on this one, mathematician, grunt and athlete
aside.

Thank you for your support. :)

I'll still willing to take the challenge, mass and velocity facts
beside the point.

The question is, how do we test it.
Go hit a golf ball with your bat. Let us know how far it went. Mike Dobbyn
hit a 551 yard drive last year. http://tinyurl.com/2yskb9

If you can get over 300 yards, I'd say you did pretty good, given the lack
of practice.


Only three hundred yards?

Piffle. :)


Remember. The longest home run hit by a baseball player is reported to be
634 *feet* (Mickey Mantle).
That's *feet*. On a good day, I can drive a golfball close to 300 *yards*.
Or at least I could several years ago.

I realize the balls are different, however the baseball has the added
velocity of the pitch, combined with the velocity of the bat as it is swung,
so the energy transferred to the ball is the sum of the two. The lowly
golf ball is stationary, yet a decent golfer can drive it over 300 yards.


Helium filled golf ball?

If I didn't have a ton of stuff to do today, I'd run some
calculations.

Maybe tonight.


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