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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:12:31 GMT, "Loogypicker"
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"S. T. Alker" wrote in message
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What to hell are you talking about? Stop stalking me, stalker.

No.

I'd love to see you try to say that to my face.

Anytime gasbag.

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"S. T. Alker" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:12:31 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote:


"S. T. Alker" wrote in message
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What to hell are you talking about? Stop stalking me, stalker.

No.

I'd love to see you try to say that to my face.

Anytime gasbag.

You're childish name calling does nothing for you're credibility.

And, I'll be traveling to your town soon, let me know were you'd like to
meet.

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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:31:49 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote:


"S. T. Alker" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:12:31 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote:


"S. T. Alker" wrote in message
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What to hell are you talking about? Stop stalking me, stalker.

No.

I'd love to see you try to say that to my face.

Anytime gasbag.

You're childish name calling does nothing for you're credibility.

And, I'll be traveling to your town soon, let me know were you'd like to
meet.

Just ask anybody - they'll give you directions.

I'll be waiting gasbag.

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D.Duck wrote:
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On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote:





D-unit wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
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The price of a bbl of oil last night.
Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state,
is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year.
Premium
typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we
have endured each of the last several years should be getting
underway
very soon, as the
refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from
winter to summer formulations.
The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to
pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing
infrastructure.
When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford
to
fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that
everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters,
many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire
boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less
justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise
prioritize boating recreation.
I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a
"heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion
profits
it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being
able to identify a solution.
And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low.
Ouch.
db
No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the
Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text -
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Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and
terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not
dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make
the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs
shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text -

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Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing.
It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are
going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make
very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you
were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one
component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be
more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent
to me, or if you ****ed me off?

Japan and Germany say hi.

Can you spell A bomb?

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 28, 3:41 am, BAR wrote:
Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 27, 5:05�pm, "Sam" wrote:
While I think it already is a free and competitive market, what changes
would you propose?- Hide quoted text -
The same measures that were taken against other vertically integrated
oligarchies in the past. Power, phone, water, etc.
[ Big Snip ]

You want prices controls and regulation.

Don't be so deliberately dense. Read instead of react. I'm sure you
*snipped* it before you read it.......after all you've got Limbaugh
and the rest of your trainers to tell you how liberals think, so why
bother?

I don't have time to listen to those guys. I have a real job.

Since you didn't bother to read before you reacted emotionally here,
I'll repeat. What I would like to see would be meaningful competition
at all level of the distribution process, an no more winks, nods, and
reach arounds by the three main bedfellows.

Start a company that does any or all of the following:
1) Drills for crude
2) Transports crude to refineries
3) Refines crude to gasoline
4) Transports gasoline to filling stations
5) Operate your own filling station

Rather than talking about it, get off your ass and make it happen,
otherwise STFU.

Why don't we limit profit to 1% on everything. One percent profit should
be enough shouldn't it?


I have no idea where you come up with some zany crap like that.
It has no relevance to anything I posted here.

You want artificial controls. Limiting profits is an artificial control.

Why do you believe in a free market when it comes to selling boats and
cars but not when it comes to selling oil.

Hello in there........ I am calling for the same kind of free market
thta *does* exist when it comes to selling boats and cars and
*doesn't* exist when it comes to selling oil. If you want the car
business to adopt the oil company model, you would need to start by
eliminating all of the independently owned new car dealerships across
the country and make them "factory outlets". The auto factories occupy
a similar space in the distribution chain that the refineries do, so
you would really need to have the auto factories bought up by big
steel producers, and you would need to eliminate the 1000,s of
subcontracting companies that
currently contribute to the construction of a car or truck. There's a
very active free market in the auto and boat industries, due in part
to the fact that new cars and new boats are always in competition with
used products as well as new cars and boats built by other
manufacturers.

See above where I strongly suggest that you stop talking and start working.

New boat companies start up every year. Most don't last all that long,
but they start up nonetheless. When was the last time somebody started
a new oil company?

Why don't they last that long?

If it was easy you would be doing it already? Right!

What I want to know is why is gasoline at the pump so cheap compared to
the cost of a bbl of crude? When oil was $50 a bbl we were paying $3 per
gallon of gas and now that oil is $100 a bbl we are still paying $3 per
gallon. Why?

Because there is no direct correlation between the price of refined
products and the price of crude oil. They only thing they have in
common is the same company is making money at every step of the
distribution process.

Can you spell "ENRON"?

Enron is gone, Key Lay is dead and the world is still turning.

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Chuck Gould wrote:
On Feb 28, 5:44�am, BAR wrote:

The guy who runs the bakery down the street gets tax breaks to purchase
new equipment every three years. Is this good or bad for the US economy?- Hide quoted text -

It's highway robbery, when the guy who runs the bakery *already* has
the exclusive right to sell bread and is essentially unrestricted in
his ability to generate gross profit.

Start a bakery right next door to him.

It's highway robbery, when the baker grinds wheat harvested from
public lands, bakes it into a loaf, and then sells it back to the
public at a ridiculous markup. (all the while blaming the "guy who
grinds the wheat!")

Do you believe in personal property?

It's highway robbery when Ma and Pa Cornerstore are forced to pay so
much for refined products that they can't make a go of it and are
forced to sell their business. Of course, since there is no profit
being earned on the sale of refined petroleum products the only
prospective buyer turns out to be BIGOILCO. Amazingly enough, after Ma
and Pa Cornerstore go BK and move in with their kids there is suddenly
enough profit available at that same location for the new owners
(BIGOILCO) to tear down the building, build a new one, add a Subway
Sandwich shop, and hire enough staff to be open 24/7/365.

Stop whining.

Don't forget, almost the very first thing that was done after the 2000
election was to call the BIGOILCO executives to Washington DC. There
they sat down in closed door meetings with Dick Cheney to "outline the
national energy policy".

This country, this world runs on energy. You have India and China
booming and sucking up more and more energy. I would expect that the
president called in the CEO's of the energy companies and had a talk
about how we can continue to supply oil based products to the US to keep
the US economy going.

Just think what will happen when the India and China start buying super
tanker loads of oil for a dollar a barrel more than the US does.

We shouldn't reward predators with a tax break.

If you are the only boat dealer in town are you a predator? Should the
government shut you down until viable competition arrives? Or, should
the government limit your, the brokers, profits?

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On Feb 27, 1:17*pm, "Sam" wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message

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I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a
"heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes *$40-billion
profits.......................

A few things to remember:

1. You are not entitled to anything... cheap gasoline included.

2. The point of setting up a for-profit business is TO MAKE A PROFIT.

3. Exxon does not set the price of oil.

4. Exxon's profit margins are around 10%, not unreasonable when you compare
it to Pfizer, which manages to make 17% on the backs of the sick and dying..
Exxon also paid 30 billion in corporate taxes last year which is more than
the combined total income tax paid by the bottom 50% of tax payers in the
US.

Total taxes paid by Exxon exceed 120 billion if you include all taxes
(franchise, payroll, property, severance and excise taxes). Their total
corporate tax was over 300k per employee.

5. If you are unhappy with the price of gasoline, you may, at any time, take
a train, ride a bike, walk, or ride the bus. All of these options will
reduce your energy costs.

Full disclosure- I am a shareholder of Exxon :-)

Classic " Amereeecan " attitude. What a dick.

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On Feb 27, 10:02*pm, "Ernest Scribbler"
wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote

The price of a bbl of oil last night.

I prefer to look on the bright side: Maybe this will bring that guy just
up-river from me with the 40' Searay to the realization that plowing up a
tsunami-like wake as he goes by my dock is not the most efficient way to
travel.

Guys like that suddenly get mysterious " holes ' in the bottom of
their boats, while at dock...Dam Beavers......