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BAR February 29th 08 02:41 AM

$100.88
 
wrote:
On Feb 28, 8:45 am, BAR wrote:
wrote:
On Feb 27, 8:05 pm, "Sam" wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chuck Gould"
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 7:37 PM
Subject: $100.88
On Feb 27, 10:17?am, "Sam" wrote:
5. If you are unhappy with the price of gasoline, you may, at any time,
take
a train, ride a bike, walk, or ride the bus. All of these options will
reduce your energy costs.
I might also wish for a free and competitive market, rather than an
oligarchy.
While I think it already is a free and competitive market, what changes
would you propose?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Quite governmenet subsidies and tax breaks for big oil. We as
taxpayers are getting shafted twice because of just that.

Your retirement account says hello!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What part of my retirement assets have anything to do with my
government using my money to subsidise and give tax breaks to big oil?
Except for the fact that BushCo is borrowing like drunken whores from
China?


Your retirement money is dependent upon buisness in general and that
means "big oil" too. Unlike Harry who invests in dirt and has non liquid
assets the rest of us are invested in public and private corporations.
You won't get any interest by stuffing your money in a mattress.

When "big oil" finds another oil field with hundreds of billions of
barrels of oil you will thank the government for encouraging "big oil"
to search for oil.

BAR February 29th 08 02:47 AM

$100.88
 
wrote:
On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
The price of a bbl of oil last night.
Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this state,
is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year.
Premium
typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge we
have endured each of the last several years should be getting
underway
very soon, as the
refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting from
winter to summer formulations.
The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford to
pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing
infrastructure.
When the working man has to give up boating because he can't afford
to
fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that
everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small boaters,
many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the entire
boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less
justification for the state to set aside marine parks or otherwise
prioritize boating recreation.
I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are facing a
"heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes $40-billion
profits
it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without being
able to identify a solution.
And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run low.
Ouch.
db
No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators in the
Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and
terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not
dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and make
the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs
shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing.
It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are
going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make
very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you
were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one
component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be
more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent
to me, or if you ****ed me off?
Can you spell A bomb?

Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just ask Reagan if talks work.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm

Portions therein:
Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea
of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to
persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked
privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in
a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States'
intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and
promoting peace.


Ronald Reagan best use of diplomacy was to stop talking and walk out on
Mikhail Gorbachev.

BAR February 29th 08 02:51 AM

$100.88
 
Loogypicker wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
The price of a bbl of oil last night.
Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this
state,
is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year.
Premium
typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price
gouge we
have endured each of the last several years should be getting
underway
very soon, as the
refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting
from
winter to summer formulations.
The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford
to
pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing
infrastructure.
When the working man has to give up boating because he can't
afford
to
fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that
everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small
boaters,
many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the
entire
boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is
less
justification for the state to set aside marine parks or
otherwise
prioritize boating recreation.
I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are
facing a
"heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes
$40-billion
profits
it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without
being
able to identify a solution.
And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run
low.
Ouch.
db
No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators
in the
Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and
terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can not
dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and
make
the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs
shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing.
It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are
going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make
very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you
were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one
component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd be
more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent
to me, or if you ****ed me off?
Can you spell A bomb?
Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Just ask Reagan if talks work.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm

Portions therein:
Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea
of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to
persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked
privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in
a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States'
intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and
promoting peace.

You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you gotta
know when to shoot and when to hold your fire.

Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers won't
even give them a chance to negotiate.
How much madder to you want to make them?


We arrive at the talks with Al Qaeda in a t-shirt, and Al Qaeda shows up
with a sword to cut off our heads.



BAR February 29th 08 02:52 AM

$100.88
 
Loogypicker wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:37:28 -0800 (PST), Chuck Gould
wrote:

Now the oil companies charge themselves $100 a bbl.

How do you suppose that price determined ?


It doesn't matter why, it's just not fair.



Ask Chuck how the value of an item is determined?


agent X February 29th 08 03:38 AM

$100.88
 

"A. B. Normal" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:32:46 -0500, "agent X"
wrote:

Just for Valgard, I'll top post.
To booger. Here's my I'm sorry. Hope it helps.


Top posting is a sin.

Confess and repent.


I never pent and I will not repent. A b normal indeed.


BAR February 29th 08 03:51 AM

$100.88
 
Artie Choke wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:22 -0500, "agent X"
wrote:

What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us?


Bubble gum.

Or a Coke.


I'd like to teach the world to sing.....

BAR February 29th 08 03:51 AM

$100.88
 
Artie Choke wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:28:22 -0500, "agent X"
wrote:

What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us?


Bubble gum.

Or a Coke.


I'd like to teach the world to sing.....

BAR February 29th 08 03:53 AM

$100.88
 
Loogypicker wrote:
"agent X" wrote in message
...
"Loogypicker" wrote in message
news:1%Dxj.36736$v57.18776@trnddc05...
"agent X" wrote in message
...
"Loogypicker" wrote in message
news:rtDxj.20772$Hd.17194@trnddc02...
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:35:22 GMT, "Loogypicker"

wrote:

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
The price of a bbl of oil last night.
Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in
this
state,
is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last
year.
Premium
typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring
price
gouge we
have endured each of the last several years should be
getting
underway
very soon, as the
refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of
converting
from
winter to summer formulations.
The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can
afford
to
pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the
disappearing
infrastructure.
When the working man has to give up boating because he
can't
afford
to
fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure
that
everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the
small
boaters,
many of the service businesses and retailers upon which
the
entire
boating community relies cannot remain in business. There
is
less
justification for the state to set aside marine parks or
otherwise
prioritize boating recreation.
I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families
are
facing a
"heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes
$40-billion
profits
it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even
without
being
able to identify a solution.
And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till
supplies run
low.
Ouch.
db
No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its
facilitators
in the
Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and
terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you
can not
dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices
and
make
the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all,
repubs
shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted
text -
- Show quoted text -
Take a look at historical data and you'll see something
astonishing.
It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we
are
going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't
make
very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say,
you
were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number
one
component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think
I'd be
more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were
decent
to me, or if you ****ed me off?
Can you spell A bomb?
Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted
text -

- Show quoted text -
Just ask Reagan if talks work.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm

Portions therein:
Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea
of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to
persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked
privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union
in
a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United
States'
intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and
promoting peace.
You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you
gotta
know when to shoot and when to hold your fire.

Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."
But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers
won't
even give them a chance to negotiate.
How much madder to you want to make them?

Oh. It's about talking to Al Qaeda.
Not just them, the Talyban too.

That's a lot of people to talk to. Narrow it down a bit and I'm sure
Harry would volunteer to pop over there and negotiate a settlement for
us.
We just have to talk to the leaders, I'm sure the rest will fall in line.
If we can stop them from hating us it will go along way towards stopping
hate.

Maybe we could use Harry's lobsta boat to sign the treaties on!

What could we do or say or give them that would cause them stop hating us?


We could start by saying we're sorry for blaming 9-11 on them.


Who is them?

agent X February 29th 08 03:53 AM

$100.88
 

"BAR" wrote in message
. ..
Loogypicker wrote:
"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 10:04:45 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Feb 28, 12:22 pm, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 09:01:17 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 1:28 pm, wrote:
On Feb 27, 1:00 pm, hkrause wrote:
D-unit wrote:
"Chuck Gould" wrote in message
...
The price of a bbl of oil last night.
Average retail price for a gallon of unleaded regular, in this
state,
is now $3.35. That's up 85-cents from the same time last year.
Premium
typically runs about 30 cents more. The annual spring price gouge
we
have endured each of the last several years should be getting
underway
very soon, as the
refiners all claim to be passing along the costs of converting
from
winter to summer formulations.
The challenge for boaters who don't care and say, "We can afford
to
pay for fuel, regardless of the cost", will be the disappearing
infrastructure.
When the working man has to give up boating because he can't
afford
to
fuel up for a weekend's outing, it guts the infrastructure that
everybody depends on. Without the critical mass of the small
boaters,
many of the service businesses and retailers upon which the
entire
boating community relies cannot remain in business. There is less
justification for the state to set aside marine parks or
otherwise
prioritize boating recreation.
I wish I had a solution. I don't. But when poor families are
facing a
"heat or eat" decision every week while BIGOILCO makes
$40-billion
profits
it's possible to see the human tragedy in play, even without
being
able to identify a solution.
And this is with a gasoline surplus.. Just wait till supplies run
low.
Ouch.
db
No mystery here...just bend over for Big Oil and its facilitators
in the
Bush Administration.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Did you ever think our enemies who seem to control the oil and
terrorism have nothing to do with this? It is a fact that you can
not
dispute that these terrorist regimes want to raise the prices and
make
the repubs look bad and get voted out of office. After all, repubs
shoot back when we are attacked, dems talk....- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Take a look at historical data and you'll see something astonishing.
It seems that talking works! All that happens when we think we are
going after the "enemy" is **** them off. After all, it doesn't make
very good business sense at all. Think about it. What if, say, you
were making widgets and I was the sole manufacturer of the number one
component that those widgets needed to operate. Would you think I'd
be
more than likely to work with you, monetarily wise if you were decent
to me, or if you ****ed me off?
Can you spell A bomb?
Just ask Chamberlain. He'll tell you how much talking works.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neville_Chamberlain

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Just ask Reagan if talks work.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed061404c.cfm

Portions therein:
Ronald Reagan was a strong believer in personal diplomacy - the idea
of having a face-to-face discussion with those he was seeking to
persuade. That's why, after becoming president, he often talked
privately about the desire to engage the leader of the Soviet Union in
a one-on-one conversation, to diminish any fear of the United States'
intentions and to seek common ground for reducing tensions and
promoting peace.
You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em. And, you
gotta
know when to shoot and when to hold your fire.

Of course, that assumes you've got something to shoot.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


But we haven't even TRIED yet to talk to Al Qaeda. You goose steppers
won't even give them a chance to negotiate.
How much madder to you want to make them?


We arrive at the talks with Al Qaeda in a t-shirt, and Al Qaeda shows up
with a sword to cut off our heads.


That's what they do. And they love doing it.


BAR February 29th 08 03:53 AM

$100.88
 
Valgard Toebreakerson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 22:05:14 GMT, "Loogypicker"
wrote:

We could start by saying we're sorry for blaming 9-11 on them.


Will you freakin' morons learn how to snip posts?

Damn - my scroll switch on the mouse is getting worn out.


Get a Lenovo, formerly IBM, scroll point mouse. It has a cool little
blue finger joy stick instead of a scroll wheel.



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